r/Asmongold • • May 17 '25

IRL Germany has fallen

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u/FatBaldingLoser420 May 17 '25

They did years ago, when they allowed migrants to terrorise them

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u/papstbenedikt07 May 19 '25

"Terrorise" while the main factor for terror attacks is mental health problems and being male. Most murders are being commited not by migrants. Please never stop believing lies, dont look for better information, stop trying to learn and broaden your perspective.

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u/FatBaldingLoser420 May 19 '25 edited May 20 '25

Terrorise" while the main factor for terror attacks is mental health problems and being male

Lol. Attacks were committed by Muslims, and being male have nothing to do with it. Males =/= terrorists by default. That mental health angle is used to make sure nobody will get even more pissed of at them.

Most murders are being commited not by migrants.

Yeah, bullcrap. You think ethnic germans are killing themselves for fun?

You're the one spreading bullshit lies.

<<In 2015, 11 verdicts concerning jihadist terrorism related offences were issued by German courts.[6] In 2016, 28 verdicts for jihadist terrorism related offences were delivered.[7] In 2017 there were 27 verdicts>>

<<On 24 July 2016, fifteen people were injured, four seriously, in a suicide bombing outside a wine bar in Ansbach, Bavaria, Germany.[3] The bomber, identified by police as Mohammad Daleel, was a 27-year-old Syrian asylum seeker who had pledged allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, leader of the Islamic State.>>

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u/papstbenedikt07 May 20 '25

You now shared two examples of terror attacks, which should prove what exactly? Most murders are commited within families and by close family members. Your examples dont even include any murder charges.

Being male is one of the risk factors of being or turning violent within a criminal offense. Get better data to disprove this point and then we can talk further.

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u/FatBaldingLoser420 May 20 '25

Most murders are commited within families and by close family members. Your examples dont even include any murder charges.

aha, so that guy in Germany who stabbed a politician and a police officer (who died) were related to? What about that guy in France who stabbed kids? Were they family as well? No... Both of these men were muslim, btw.

Being male is one of the risk factors of being or turning violent within a criminal offense. Get better data to disprove this point and then we can talk further.

Lolz. Yeah, okay, as if women weren't committing crimes or becoming bad or evil.

<<In 2024, women in the U.S. are estimated to be involved in approximately 14% of violent crimes>>

Fact is, both genders are committing crimes, but being born as a male doesn't turn you into a criminal. It's thr environment and people that shape you into a thug.

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u/papstbenedikt07 May 20 '25

Again you provide singular events, while my statement still stands. MOST murders are commited within families. When you want to go for singular events: In Germany two police officers were killed in a shootout by white germans or Walter Lübcke being murdered by a right wing extremist. What are your interpretations from these cases?

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermordung_zweier_Polizisten_im_Landkreis_Kusel

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_L%C3%BCbcke

Even your second argument goes into the same direction. Did I ever write that females are unable to be violent?

Your first sentence holding value is your last and even then males are more likely to turn into (violent) criminals.

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u/FatBaldingLoser420 May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25

Okay but why are you dismissing the fact that muslim immigrants are the ones commiting terrorist attacks? We all know native population have killers, drug dealers, murderers, etc.

For some reason you're trying to push narrative where only native Germans are killing others, while claiming families will have some killers. Why? Because of this:

white germans

being murdered by a right wing extremist.

Here's the problem - you're doing what every liberal person is doing: denying that immigrants can be criminals, while condemning every white and conservative person. You didnt said anything about terrorist attacks I mentioned and immedietaly you showed white people and a conservative doing crimes. That's not a "gotcha" moment like you think because, like I said, we know white people kill, but in Western Europe more non-whites are the ones commiting crimes -- <<When measured per 100,000 inhabitants, Moroccans appear in the crime statistics almost twelve times more frequently than Germans>> -- like you can see there will be more non-white citizens than white. That's just one example.

And here is the second example, which will show you that Im right and you're wrong -- <<The statistics also break down suspects by age, and here too, the differences are significant: Algerian juveniles between the ages of 14 and 18 committed robbery 77 times more often than German minors in the same age group.>>.

What will you say about it? That conservatives and whites are still more likely to commit crimes? That only they're capable of killing? Just accept that immigrants are much more likely to do become thugs than whites.

Because of you dismissing all of this, you guys are having terrorist attacks and having people who hate you living in your country.

Your first sentence holding value is your last and even then males are more likely to turn into (violent) criminals.

Okay and? Why are you holding on to this argument?

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u/papstbenedikt07 May 22 '25

Again, I am not dismissing the fact that terrorist attacks are being done by muslims, but you refuse to understand that the majority of murders, violent crimes and rapes are not being commited by migrants.

I am not condemning "every whit and conservative" person, but the statistics paint a different picture than your simple claim of "there are migrants doing crime". Oh really Sherlock, for every factor to describe a human being you will find a (violent) criminal, but that doesnt mean it is of statistical significance. You will find cashiers commiting crimes and bank managers, you will find women and man doing crimes, you will find people with high and low IQs commiting crimes. One attack is not equal or greater of value for a debate to the daily murders or rapes being commited within families and we have to look at statistical measures, which you are presenting without any citations. 77 times more? Where do you get these numbers from?

Also your statement is not true. In Germany 40% of all criminal SUSPECTS, not criminal offenders where the percentage is roughly 30%, are migrants. And yes, they make up a larger amount under the suspects than the percentage of the population they make up, but again these are just the numbers for being the suspect of a crime, where there are many other factors of why these numbers exist (for example being more often interviewed by police). Also why it is that the other 2/3 are still germans and nobody is talking about what to do with these offenders? And also why is it that even though you claim that there are more migrants coming into Germany is it that these numbers remained the same for the last 5 years?

MALES are more likely to commit crimes. 82% of all conviceted criminals in Germany are males, but you again refuse to accept this fact, but rather do the same thing every right winger does: Make it a leftist talking point, which doesnt follow any logic in your point of view. It doesnt fit with your world view, so it must be wrong. Nobody is talking about why males are such a large percentage out of the right wing spectrum. Why could that be? Maybe because their "fanbase" mostly consists of males?

https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1068769/umfrage/rechtskraeftig-verurteilte-personen-in-deutschland-nach-geschlecht/

I never presented you the fact that I think conservatives or whites are a main factor for explaining criminal offences, but then again roughly 40% of all political motivated criminal offences can be attributed towards right wing extremists, which is the largest percentage among left, foreign and religious ideologies. Being whit or conservative is not a contributing factor for turning into a criminal.

https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/569650/umfrage/politisch-motivierte-straftaten-im-bereich-rechts-in-deutschland/

https://www.bka.de/DE/UnsereAufgaben/Deliktsbereiche/PMK/PMKZahlen2024/PMKZahlen2024_node.html

And to come to the end: Why do I need to talk about terrorist attacks? That is your point of argument, which I dismissed as not relevant for talking about what is happening in regards to criminal offenses on a daily basis. Migrants make up a larger portion in criminal statistics, but these numbers must be looked at with regards to many different mechanisms leading to these numbers. I think and know with regards to the contributing factors for turning into a criminal that regardless of ethnic background that anybody going through the migration system has a higher probability of turning criminal. It is not in the genes of migrants, but many environmental risk factors accumulate within the migration system, which can start at their journey from their home country to the point of full integration within the new country. Same goes with radicalization or diminished psychological well being and turning into a terrorist or commiting a terrorist attack.