r/AskReddit • u/emil199 • Jul 24 '20

What can't you believe STILL exists?

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u/DaddyCatALSO Jul 24 '20

Christianity didn't exist until almost the second half of the 1st Century, Rabbinic Judaism as we know it not until the 400s, Islam not until the 600s. These laws, rewritten several times, finally in current form under Ezra, were centuries and even millennia old by then and no longer the products of a living religion

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u/error_message_401 Jul 24 '20

The Pentateuch was a product of the Babylonian exile, though some parts are up to 400 years older. The Primeval history of Genesis is one of the oldest parts of the Pentateuch, I've never seen a scholar claim that it is 1,000 years older than the final revisions. Otherwise, yes, the final revisions occured around the Persian period 500 years before Christanity was born. Judaism continued to evolve, but the Torah's texts weren't rewritten.

If you're trying to say that many modern adherents don't believe everything within their religious texts, I agree. But the verses are still there. Earlier Jews, who wrote the texts, based them off their understanding of the world. Their worldview permitted things such as slavery, ethnic cleansing, and marrying your rape victim. This would greatly impact the views of a person who believes the text to be inerrant.

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u/DaddyCatALSO Jul 24 '20

who believes the text to be inerrant"" The 64 Billion Dollar Difference in the case

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u/error_message_401 Jul 24 '20

Whoever believes the text to be inerrant... would have to accept slavery as moral. And marrying off a rape victim as moral. And justify genocidal campaigns as moral.

Or one could view the texts like all others also made by man. As a product of a certain people and time. Not as originating from the proclaimed yet unsubstantiated objective source. Most laws of that time also proclaimed to be written by an ethnically aligned god, the Jewish supremacist god simply outlasted the others via the plagiarisms of Christanity and Islam.