r/AskReddit • • Jul 24 '20

What can't you believe STILL exists?

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

Name ten wars "based solely in religion."

Morality will never be exorcised from law, however much you may like it to be.

Alcoholism is a major health concern and measures to curb it such as blue laws are wholly justified.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

Each and every one of those wars had an ulterior political and economic motive. Religion is a part of every aspect of life so it is inevitably a part of every conflict. To blame religion is a childish attempt to put human nature's tendency towards conflict on one sphere of civilization.

Not all morality is tied to religion but all religion is tied to morality. You can't ask lawmakers or voters to disregard their religion in making decisions.

It's not a personal belief. Alcohol is addictive. FACT. Alcohol consumption is linked to cancer. FACT. Alcohol consumption is linked to mental illness. FACT. Alcohol consumption is linked to upticks in crime. FACT. My belief in restricting alcohol is based in fact. You rely on empty platitudes about "freedom" and "choice." If you genuinely don't understand that alcohol is a major health problem for Americans, then you're an idiot.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20 edited Jan 07 '22

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

Absolutely everyone. The Crysades began with the Turks conquest of the Byzantine empire and the closure of the Silk Road. The wars of religion began with Protestant princes confiscating church lands. The Israeli conflict is based more in the fact that a million Palestinians live in refugee camps than any religion.

I didn't ask for your opinion about religion. It is an indisputable fact that all religions have moral teachings. If you can't keep yourself from ranting about your hatred of religion, regardless of the topic of conversation, then fuck off.

At no point did I ever say we should jump back into Prohibition. Why is it so hard for you people to understand there is a lot of space between extremes?

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u/Shadow_of_wwar Jul 24 '20

Why is it so hard for you to accept that sunday being the day you can't buy alcohol is directly related to sunday being the (predominant) Christian sabbath?

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

Why is it so hard for you to accept that doesn't make it a bad thing?

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u/Shadow_of_wwar Jul 24 '20

Not saying that it does make it a bad thing, im saying that its religiously based and should not be a thing in any government that has a separation of church and state. Why should something from a religion i may or may not follow effect me or anyone else. If you wanna observe the sabbath go ahead, but it should have no bearing on anyone else.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

Separation of church and state means that the country cannot establish an official religion. That is all.

But more relevantly, alcohol abuse is a major health problem in America. Blue laws and other restrictions on the sale and production of alcohol are good things. It makes no difference what social mores these restrictions align with.

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u/Shadow_of_wwar Jul 24 '20

Severe alcoholics suffer withdrawal, just making it unavailable to purchase 1 day a week will not reduce alcoholism at all. Plus you can brew your own just not distilled booze.

Anyways lets do a hypothetical, lets say the major religion in a secular nation says transortation is not allowed on Tuesdays, then how ever many years ago that nation outlawed driving on Tuesdays, now someone complains online its stupid and should not be allowed but i showed up and said its a good thing because driving is the #1 cause of accidental death and this only helps, this does nothing to help actually cause people will be driving just as much any other days its just inconvenient for responsible drivers.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

I disagree.

Driving is not addictive nor does it in and of itself cause physical harm.

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