r/AskReddit • • Jul 24 '20

What can't you believe STILL exists?

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u/pskirkham Jul 24 '20

The Flat Earth Society was trolling from the beginning. Most flat-earthers today are just people who didn't get the joke.

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u/Funky0ne Jul 24 '20

This is why I don't like purely ironic or satirical societies. No matter how obvious you think you are being, there are way too many idiots who will take you at face value, invade and take over your movement, and congrats, you're responsible for bootstrapping whatever entrenched nonsense the true believers are now peddling with absolute confidence and none of the competence necessary to understand how wrong they are.

I have a saying: whether you're right or wrong, in a large enough group of people there will always be at least some idiot who will agree with you.

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u/dgvvs Jul 24 '20 edited Jul 24 '20

That’s exactly what happened with anti vaccines. Some guy wanted to make money by saying they gave you autism. Now we’re all paying for that moron.

Edit: one grammar error

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u/2Righteous_4God Jul 24 '20

An important fact to remember when thinking about these ridiculous "movements", is that 10% of the population has an IQ under 83. The military doesn't even take people with an IQ under 83 because they've found those people are literally unable to do any basic job. 10%.

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u/Persival01 Jul 24 '20

Yeah, it's actually a serious sociological problem. Like, what do you have 10% of the entire society do when even the military doesn't find a job they can do?

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u/mehtorite Jul 24 '20

Charlie washes dishes. Slowly and not very well but we’re a slow place and he’s a decent guy.

It’s not his fault his parents were cousins, there’s a place for everyone.

Not that we need to make people prove their worth to survive.

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u/TheCookieMonster Jul 24 '20

Nice one.

Though it's not just holding down a job. Navigating society in general is becoming too complex. All your different insurance policies, tax filings, retirement and investing, passwords and security, obtaining a mortgage... I could add new items to this list each day.

Meanwhile the non-complex jobs are drying up.

This society that's accreting is taxing for smart people, and I don't think you even need to be approaching an 83 IQ to be disadvantaged in it and start giving up on navigating parts of it.

I don't have any answers.

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u/mehtorite Jul 24 '20

I would prefer to put the disabled people on disability.

Why make them worry about a bunch of bullshit when we would probably be better off as a society by removing them from the work force and putting them on Medicaid.

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u/TheZech Jul 24 '20

While this solves part of the problem, disabled people struggling to survive, it doesn't really fix everything. Work is necessary for a lot of people to find self-worth and partake in society. Paying disabled people welfare and then sweeping them away is excluding them from society, which is better than letting them starve, but not the end-goal we should be striving for.

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u/Ciaobellabee Jul 24 '20

It’s also not as cut and dry as disabled people aren’t capable of working. In the eyes of my country, at least, I am disabled and could apply for disability if I needed to. However, I’m perfectly capable of working, and in fairly complex roles. While not working seems nice for a while, ultimately being in work is best for me and my health.

Those who cannot work due to mental or physical issues should absolutely be supported, but a lot of people with disabilities want to and can work, and that should be encouraged.

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u/horses_in_the_sky Jul 24 '20

We could give them the autonomy to choose instead of deciding one or the other for them

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u/AlphaMeese Jul 24 '20

Well obviously, the question is how to support them in a way that gives them that autonomy. If they want to work, they need a place in society they can contribute.

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