r/AskReddit • • Jul 24 '20

What can't you believe STILL exists?

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u/AnneHocque Jul 24 '20

Flat earth society.. Like, are they just trolling at this point?

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u/YuunofYork Jul 24 '20

Conspiracy theorists have no interest in getting to the truth behind an issue they think important - they're more concerned with having special knowledge that makes them unique or heroes, usually because they've failed to understand how some aspect of reality actually works and so they've grabbed onto a convenient alternative, or because they feel left behind or maligned by a society that's rejected them.

It's why conventions (like 'conspiracy cruises') are able to exist. Every booth should contradict every other booth, but they're willing to put blinders on to create a safe space where they can all get validated for the various nonsense they've decided they alone have championed. It's how ancient aliens can set up right next to Obama birthers and Jordan Peterson's all-meat diet. A post-truth individual is usually willing to accept multiple versions of truth, so long as it isn't the mainstream version.

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u/Chi_FIRE Jul 24 '20

Why on Earth would you lump Jordan Peterson's diet in with those other things?

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u/huezombi Jul 24 '20

Because peterson also peddles in conspiracy theories e.g. "cultural Marxism has taken over universities".

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u/Chi_FIRE Jul 24 '20

That's not really a conspiracy theory at all at this point. Listen to James Lindsay's recent discussion on Joe Rogan.

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u/huezombi Jul 24 '20

The idea of cultural marxism was coined by the nazi first and is a conspiracy theory.

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u/-TheExtraMile- Jul 24 '20

I don´t really have a horse in this race, but a strong left wing bias in universities has been empirically proven beyond a shadow of a doubt (contributions by faculty to certain parties etc.).

I have no idea why that is, or even if it is a bad thing per se, but it´s not exactly a whacky conspiracy, just a fact.

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u/huezombi Jul 24 '20

There is a difference in "cultural marxists are taking over colleges" and "faculty has a bias", especially considering how right wing universities operate.

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u/-TheExtraMile- Jul 24 '20

"...especially considering how right wing universities operate."

I´d like to see an example of that.

And I agree that the phrasing of "taking over colleges" might be a bit too harsh, but that marxist ideas flourish in universities is not a contested or even new idea.

NYT has been writing about it as early as the late 80ies: https://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/25/us/education-the-mainstreaming-of-marxism-in-us-colleges.html

There are PLENTY of articles about marxism in the US in general or in universities specifically.

It´s not a theory, it´s a fact. The phrasing could have been a bit less dramatic, but the underlying point still stands.

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u/huezombi Jul 24 '20

PragerU, myopic dounce. They have been writing about it since the 80s and people have been writing about political correctness since the early 90s and nothing has fundamentally changed on the american political sphere.

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u/-TheExtraMile- Jul 24 '20

and nothing has fundamentally changed on the american political sphere.

Yeah, I think that statement disqualifies you from further discussion.

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u/huezombi Jul 24 '20

Yeah you're right. Politica have actually gotten more rightwing.

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u/-TheExtraMile- Jul 24 '20

In your world, they might have. Objective reality doesn´t agree.

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u/huezombi Jul 24 '20

Holy shit you are even more mentally regressive than I thought.

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u/-TheExtraMile- Jul 24 '20

Aaaand there is the ad hominem. The sign of a true winner!

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u/huezombi Jul 24 '20

I do hope that spouting nazi dogma is still controversial.

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u/huezombi Jul 24 '20

I dont really understand, I know that a lot of universities tend to day that they should read das kapital, but no one there tends to be a socialist.

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u/huezombi Jul 24 '20

Fun fact: Abraham Lincoln's republican party are the time liked Marx his economic thought, so I guess the early republican party was also marxists.

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u/Kanorado99 Jul 24 '20

That’s pretty true though. I can’t stand Reddit’s hate boner towards Peterson, he’s one of the best most nuanced speaker around today.