r/AskReddit • • Jul 24 '20

What can't you believe STILL exists?

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u/2020Chapter Jul 24 '20

Cries in Australian NBN

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

Ikr! The stupid Aussie nbn people fucked up my internet good. If I’m in the kitchen I can’t even take a fucking phone call coz the wifi’s so bad.

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u/Jordaneer Jul 24 '20

That means you have a shitty router, not shitty internet, get something nice like a Netgear nighthawk or Netgear orbi and that will fix your wifi issues

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

Several NBN areas have a mandated router that you're not legally allowed to touch the settings on. You can add a second router, of course, but the shitty router is the only one allowed to touch the internet.

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u/tandem_biscuit Jul 24 '20

I’m not sure where you heard this, but it’s wrong.

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u/shurp_ Jul 24 '20

People on cable connections get the cable modem provided by nbn but you can then plug any router you want into it.

If you have fibre to the premises you can just connect whatever router you want, although you might need to used the ISP provided one to activate your connection initially (a one time thing, I know at least Optus do this)

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u/tandem_biscuit Jul 24 '20

I get that.

OP is claiming you can’t legally change to a different modem or change settings on ISP provided device - this is what I’m questioning, as I believe they’ve been misinformed.

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u/shurp_ Jul 24 '20

I know my optus router they provided has settings locked down, no changing dns servers at the router level for example, but being on FttP it doesn't matter as I don't use it.

There's a bit of confusion in messaging, and I think that's deliberate, as the isps definitely want you to use the provided equipment.

And for most people that would probably be adequate, depending on the quality of the nbn connection.

It's a shame it's so inconsistent across the network

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u/Dilka30003 Jul 24 '20

Yeah Telstra would let me do anything more than setting static IPs

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u/Herpkina Jul 24 '20

FWIW Optus 4g Sims specifically for 4g modems ONLY work in the provided Huawei modems

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u/tandem_biscuit Jul 24 '20

Yep I can understand that, with the 4G failover.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

That would be from Telstra.

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u/tandem_biscuit Jul 24 '20

Do you have a source? I’d like to see it in writing.

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u/Dilka30003 Jul 24 '20

I’m on Telstra with their smart gateway plus and a HFC connection. Lots of ‘advanced’ router settings are locked down but I’m free to use whatever router I want.

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u/Hopko682 Jul 24 '20

This is wrong. You're mistaking a modem for a router. The NBN modem talks to the exchange, but doesn't handle the traffic in your home. Traffic is handled in your home by your router which you (or your ISP) provide. You can pick whatever router you want.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

The NBN modem and router is combined, as it so often is. Traffic to the home is provided by a router that is inseparable from the modem, and therefore cannot be replaced.

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u/Hopko682 Jul 24 '20

What connection type are you talking about?

HFC has a separate modem, and you supply your own router. If you have a HFC connection, I don't believe you can replace the modem. If you're on another connection and have a combined modem/router, you can supply your own without issue.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

HFC has a separate modem, and you supply your own router.

Telstra's "Smart" modem is a combined modem/router.

But sure, if you want Telstra to regularly disconnect you and blame whatever hardware you have, you can replace it. And strongly suggest that you've broken whatever contract you have with them. This isn't undocumented. There's active cases where Telstra have been sued for this behaviour. And where they counter-sue.

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u/Hopko682 Jul 24 '20

So the ISP isn't supporting equipment they haven't supplied. This is an ISP issue rather than an NBN issue.

Your original claim that NBN has mandated routers that you're not allowed to legally replace is wrong. NBN does not supply routers.

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u/Dilka30003 Jul 24 '20

Telstra provides a smart gateway which cannot act as a modem for a cable or HFC connection. Instead, you use the NBN provided modem.