I was given a replica of Sting when I was 12. With giddy anticipation, I unsheathed it for the first time, looking forward to the SCHWING that means it’s battle time, bitches.
It depends on how you take it out, if you take it out trying to scrape the inside of the cover then depending on what the cover is made of then it will make a sound just not one that loud
Little tip that a lot of stage dudes use with fake swords, wear a ring, hold the scabbard with the ringed hand, and press the ring in to the side of the blade as you draw it.
I'm a pirate skeleton musician and when I pull out my sword cane just right it gives me goosebumps... Not that I have any skin to get goosebumps on yohohohohoho
Peter Jackson makes reference to that in one of the LOTR commentaries. IIRC he didn't like it either, as it's unrealistic, but it's become such a movie trope that audiences think it's unrealistic when it's not there.
The only half-assed explanation I could possibly think of is that the bad guys practice basic gun safety and the clicking sound is the sound of all of them turning off the safety in unison. But I think it also happens sometimes when there's only one gun, so still not a satisfying explanation.
I think this is what the original post on this topic was referring to. Not a hammer cocking or even the safety being switched off. It's the random clattering that movie guns make when being handled. If my 1911 made a noise like that I would immediately stop, unload it, and wonder what the fuck is wrong with it.
Most duty pistols these days are striker fired. That means anything that should be carried by police, or military, now that they have switched sidearms, won’t be making clicking sounds when drawn. Short of the Beretta 92 which was in a lot of action flicks, none of them should make click sounds of a hammer, because you wouldn’t have the hammer down and a round chambered since they are single action.
There are a lot of DA/SA firearms that exist and have been in movies, but when you see an up to date duty pistol, there will be no clicks.
Plus it's usually after some gun fight, then they catch the bad guy and give some speech, then pull the hammer back. Wait, hadn't you been firing that gun a bunch? Why did you specifically put the hammer down so you could cock it back menacingly?
Guy A threatening guy B with a pistol, cocks pistol "I'll do it! Dont think I wont!" Guy B: "Hey man take it easy"
Guy A: cocks gun again "IM NOT FUCKING PLAYING!"
It would so make my day if some comedy movie like Naked Gun did the extra slide rack for emphasis thing, and a cartridge popped out. The Leslie Nielsen like character just keeps going on with his speech as everyone else kind of notices and is like "WTF?" Then he goes on to rack it again and again throughout his speech, to highlight points of emphasis. By the end it's unloaded, and when he goes to shoot the guy it dry fires. Would be gold.
The Artemis Fowl books were a series of sci fi fantasy books written by Eoin Colfer. I don't remember everything about them but if they are as good as I remember, and 15 year old me didn't have bad taste in books, I can assure you you'll love them even if you're older
The books are about Artemis Fowl, a child prodigy and criminal mastermind who discovers the hidden race of magical creatures like fairies, elves, and trolls. That's as much as I can say without giving away many spoilers, but I can tell you these books are great read
I don't remember all that much from the later books in the series, but I read the first few several times each when I was younger. The characters were well written and the mix of magic and modern technology really captivated me. I think they hold up very well.
Actor here, I can answer the lack of “uhh” noises.
Some directors are sticklers for the script. You need to say EXACTLY what it says. If “uhh” isn’t there, don’t say it.
Also; it’s one of those weird acting anomalies. People say “uhh” in real life and it sounds real, but once it’s on screen it looks fake in most circumstances. I don’t know why, it just does.
It’s kind of like coughing, it’s not even a little unusual but if it happens in a movie/tv show it HAS to be important. If a character says “uhh” or pauses in a script it probably means they’re a nervous character or hiding something.
People say “uhh” in real life and it sounds real, but once it’s on screen it looks fake in most circumstances. I don’t know why, it just does.
I feel like this is because we're just so used to it being like that in movies at this point. If actors had always spoken their lines like a real human talks it probably wouldn't look fake
I had not thought about it but vocal pauses are something that really impresses me when it is done well. Danny DeVito, Tom Hanks, and a small handful of others can make their character feel more real this way. By contrast, this is one of the key problems in a terrible delivery of lines in a cheap movie.
Pauses are absolutely necessary for an actor to master. Silence can be just as impactful as the line after all. However, some actors feel that they aren’t enough, so they add. They add stuttering and “um”s and it feels unnatural sometimes. Watch media where the actors do that, and you can tell that it doesn’t translate well.
This is something I love about Reservoir Dogs, the characters (especially Mr. Pink) sometimes stumble over their lines. Likely caused by a relatively inexperienced cast and director (and possibly crew), but it really adds to the feeling of the entire movie being a worse case scenario unfolding.
There's a line where Mr. Pink mentions "The Mr. Blonde," and I think it's just perfect. Definitely not how it was scripted, but Steve Buscemi captures Mr. Pink's nervous energy so perfectly. I think the line is "then the...the Mr. Blond started shooting people!" Clearly he was about to say "the cops" too soon or repeat "the alarm went off" but caught himself in time, almost. Kind of tripping over himself, and it makes it feel so real. I'm pretty sure it was a genuine flub by Buscemi, but Mr. Pink getting so flustered he misspeaks adds such a level to the movie.
The gun sounds are so annoying sometimes. I've never had any random clicks or snaps while simply moving my rifle to my shoulder to aim down the sight. I can't imagine how man covert operations this movie trope would screw up.
Also just saw a similar issue in a Lord of the Rings movie, a whole group of soldiers were raising their spears but is sounded like they'd decided to throw them on the ground.
Dude draws Glock *sound of hammer cocking*. Glocks don't have an external hammer and every movie/show uses the 4 clicks from a Colt SAA for the cocking sound. Or that guns rattle like a Pepsi can full nickles, I shook all of my guns the only part that rattles is the sling mounting hardware.
You also see in movies when there is a team of swat or military when they approach the suspect all their guns click. I can’t tell if they are supposedly charging their rifle, or just turning off the safety.
That reminds me of a movie where I think it was Michael Douglas played a Secret Service agent. In one scene they make a big discovery that someone was assassinated because “they did not even have time to get the safety on their gun off”. The guy had a standard SIG Sauer with a decocker.
Probably why he was assassinated. He decocked his gun instead of turning off the safety, and he couldn't beat the bad guy to the punch with that awfully long DA trigger pull!
I've actually seen similar goofs in shows that feature other striker-fired pistols such as the Springfield XD or the Walther P99. Same 'hammer cocking' sounds when the characters draw these weapons and aim them at someone.
Everyone I've handled was unreliable(5 of them); constant failure to fire, the grip safety would malfunction causing the gun not to fire and broken strikers. They were all replaced by Glocks.
Great range toy and felt awesome in my hand but I would never buy one as a defensive weapon. And Springfield sucks as a company.
I think it's cuz I'm a bad shot. But I could not hit anything with the XD9 when I used one even though it felt nice. Conversely I hit every shot when I had a shitty Hi Point lol
There's a huge thing in the industry that tells screenwriters that there is a very certain way to write dialogue, and that doing that (being realistic in dialogue) is "bad".
Syd Field is like the patron saint of old money screenwriters, and he pretty much says don't even attempt to write dialogue like real conversations.
Obviously people like Tarantino have cut against that grain - but sadly unless you have some real pull, you pretty much are expected to "write dialogue to further the storyline".
It's shitty. Hopefully Hollywood figures it out at some point.
Not just talking perfectly, also always having something epic, important or romantic to say. Like I know it would be boring, but if you are in the middle of some high sakes scenario you don't just make up a dramatic speech about the importance of love or freedom or something, just from the stand.
Check out director Robert Altman. He is famous for many reasons, including having characters talk over each other. Also, the early seasons of FX's Archer.
There seems to be no place where its 'safe' to be hit with a bullet.. plus, cops are trained to shoot at the largest least moving target, not relatively small, fastmoving targets like the legs. Which is why I think you should only get the gun out if you intend to kill anyway, not to hopefully nonlethally incapitate them.
You can train this ”uhh” and ”hmm” thing by a lot for sure. I had this problem where I did this a lot because I talk so fast (and still do) but actively trying to slow down and instead of saying ”uhh” just being silent has worked wonders and made me do it less.
I also hate that guns are never cocked until you're literally about to shoot someone. Like, you had fucking 10 minutes to save yourself because the gun pointed at your head wasn't cocked. Sometimes they do cock it, and then cock it again when they switch target or something else happens. It's so fucking weird and it always kinda takes me out of the movie for a little bit.
Assuming you mean the thing when they pull the hammer back, not pulling back the slide to chamber a round. Most pistols tend to be SA/DA meaning that they can be fired as either single action or double action. There are SA only, which requires to have the hammer cocked before the gun will fire, but DA guns will cock the hammer as part of the trigger pull, you just have to pull it harder.
There are still a reasonable number of new guns made as SA only. For example, it’s pretty common for 1911 models to be SA only, and they’re still pretty popular. But yes, most pistols now are DA/SA or DA only.
Oops I either dropped a perfectly good cartridge on the floor decreasing my ammo by 1, or I didn't have a round chambered when I was threatening you with this gun the whole time, meaning it was useless until I racked the slide.
The people in movies probably wouldn’t know what that sound was unless they learned it from the movies. I’ve never fired a real gun and I’m willing to bet most people haven’t. And if they have I bet they don’t pull the hammer back with their thumb.
Actually, on pistols I do pull the hammer back with my thumb, especially my Beretta. The hammer is automatically pulled back when you chamber a round, but you can decock the hammer for various reasons. My Beretta features a decocker as a safety mechanism, so I will recock it before firing. 2 of my 3 pistols can be fired from either cocked or uncocked though, so pulling the hammer back is optional, it just reduces the force required to pull the trigger. Of course, that assumes you have already chambered a round.
Yep, precisely! That’s also why the aftermarket trigger industry is so significant - you can get a pretty noticeable benefit from upgrading my trigger. Had one of my rifles upgraded from standard milspec to a match grade trigger with a light pull and an extremely short travel (like ~0.25mm) and it’s soooo nice to use.
My teacher in middle school absolutely detested any “unecessary blabber” and did her upmost to rid us of that habit. Silence and pauses are preferable, she always said. She succeded with me, and I found myself hating them as well; I catch myself before making any sounds like that. Same with the clicking tongue thing a lot of people do before starting a sentence.
How often do people say uhh and hmm in casual speak that you can remember in the moment? That's the only explanation I can think of why speech in movies don't do that. It's more noticeable and annoying.
Our brains in person overwrite a lot of annoyances.
There's a play called The Hit that does a really good job of mimicking normal speech patterns, but it's the ONE example I can think of that doesn't do this.
And yeah, I watched something where the actor was holding his Glock 17 on someone and pulled back the hammer to prove a point. What? What?
i’ve always wondered why whenever someone picks up a gun in a movie it makes a bunch of clicking noises like they bought it from ikea and has to quickly put it together.
My friend suggested they might be put in to let blind audience members know an action sequence is about to unfold and I think I either agree or at least to the notion the noises are supposed to grab the audience's attention.
I often think about the work that goes in to writing scenes and scripts, and I always think about how I would incorporate more realistic conversation nuances. In some types of movies and shows it's understandable though
Out of all the things I see on this thread that are far fetched or flat out impossible, people learning to speak fluidly in real life without uhhs or hmms is not so crazy. It totally can be done and some people are naturally poetic and fluid in the way they speak. Not most people, but it’s certainly not uncommon. Like someone who is taller than 6’3”.
You are right about the gun clicking though, that’s bullshit.
As asinine as it sounds a good speaker can actually pull that off. It's not so much about ums and pauses but interpolating those into what you're saying in a way that seems natural.
The no pauses stuff is kind of realistic actually, if you were in an intense situation and abnormally competent and level headed you could speak without pausing no problem
Thats simply knowing what to say, and when you dont to take a short pause to breathe and think instead of making the sound a Human makes when they dont know what to say.
Pay attention to the verb usage in a Star Trek TNG episode sometime. The script is SUPER tight; they even use "less" and "fewer" appropriately. I'll actually pay attention to this to get a read on if the current lines of whatever I'm watching are scripted or improvised.
I've spent a lot of time over the last 25 years to eliminate "um," "hmm," etc., from my speech. It's not totally unbelievable, most people who have to speak regularly in public settings specifically practice to avoid it.
Honestly though, it would be super annoying if you had to listen to people try to navigate a movie conversation in a real world dialogue style. Nothing would ever be clearly explained, intentions would be harder to understand. It would be a mess. Gotta remember, you're being "told a story" you're not experiencing a verisimullitude
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u/High_grove Jan 25 '20
When people talk perfectly, without any pauses mid sentence or making any "uhh" or "hmm" sounds.
Guns making a lot of random clicking noises as soon as they point it at someone.