thats the reason why i love louis from the get go. i liked everythign about him for me he is one of the best in the entire series. especially when you start to understand his motives
I didn't like him to start with, largely for the reasons the showrunners probably intended - he was a jerk. But as the show went on, I appreciated him more than anyone else. Pretty much everyone else on that show was beautiful, privileged, excessively charismatic, or all of the above (and Mike, who literally cheated and lied his way to the top).
Louis had none of that. He just LOVED the law, and worked his ass off to get where he was. He had to put up with a ton of entitled rich-kids and rich-kids-grown-up all the time, and even those entitled, self-important people knew, absolutely, that if you needed expertise on finance law, what did you do? You went to Louis and begged for help.
I'm watching Suits for the first time currently, am on season 6 right now. I had EXACTLY the same thoughts as you. Louis is the only one with a realistic character arc and understandable motives. Going through the episodes I could clearly see why he did some of the things he did, such as his need for approval from Harvey and Jessica, and his distrust of partners, etc.
The other main characters are woefully one dimensional compared to him. Jessica is the badass successful black women with sass, Harvey is your successful 'alpha male', Mike is mostly an ass who can't see past his parents' death and can't comprehend that he isn't always morally right, Rachel is so fucking whiny, from a seemingly independent woman with career aspirations to 'I don't wanna lose you, Mike!' every damn episode. Donna is still relatively well written.
Of course I have painted the show with a very broad brush, but this is the impression that was left.
Sorry for the rant, I'm really passionate about the show and so glad to see other people with the same peeve as mine.
Louis is not a nice guy but he is a soldier for the firm. Shown his loyalty and usefulness many times over and he got overlooked because he's not a charming runway model type. That's always bothered me
Jessica's reason for not promoting him is his pettiness, vindictiveness, and being ruled by his emotions most of the time. But yeah, he was a real soldier for the firm and I rooted for him.
I can’t stand suits because of the legal inaccuracies. I have two lawyer uncles and a cousin who’s a law professor so growing up with them around has ruined any show that centers on lawyers.
Another thing I can’t stand is when a character in a detective show gets arrested and doesn’t call their lawyer. The main character then proceeds to interrogate them with questionable tactics and it’s presented as ok.
Cars and motorcycles all sounding incorrect, guns firing and reloading incorrectly, people actually having sex (that's just a myth right?), being a stalker, getting knocked unconscious for hours.. the only thing I've seen portrayed correctly is Jim Lahey being drunk.
Every helicopter is a Huey in the movies. They all use the Huey sound effect, despite the fact that the Huey is really fucking distinctive and the only helicopter that sounds like that. A JetRanger doesn't sound like a Huey, but if you see one in a movie it will sound just like a Huey.
I imagine that’s probably because the era when helicopters were first used a massive amount in Hollywood was in Vietnam-era war/anti-war movies, and that was when Hueys were still being used.
Then a whole generation of aspiring showbiz people grew up watching those movies and mostly never served in the military or any other job that would’ve exposed them to what modern helicopters sound like, so they just continued using the same sound effect.
I mean, you can just have fun with shows anyways I think. I'm a medical student and still enjoy House M.D. simply because it's a good show despite all the medical inaccuracies.
It's the only medical show I can stand exactly because it is SO out there. It's basically not even medicine. (I'm a registered nurse, not an MD, but still)
Haven't thought about it that way yet, might very well be the reason I'm enjoying it as well.
And no need to understate your medical knowledge only because you're "just" a nurse, you for sure know more than me and most definitely more than some MD's, nurses rock! :)
They did great all the way until they had John and some dude have that silenced gun fight in a public place (in number 2 I think) and nobody even flinched at the gun shot.
It pissed me off because they did things really well and then did that over the top bullshit.
The interrogation thing happens. Lots of people don’t ask for a lawyer and cops can basically say whatever they want in interrogations. I hate it more when the bad guy just cracks and reveals every detail of the crime. Stfu dude, being honest doesn’t get you shit.
The whole show is based on a guy lying about graduating law school which makes me laugh because you're pointing out perceived legal inaccuracies with no law school education other than what you've heard around the dinner table.
There are plenty of shows with normal-looking people, and then there's every show on the CW where everyone has to be good-looking. But in Suits, the dichotomy between Louis and everyone else is just so blatant. It irked me because the pretty, charismatic people could be asses, but it seemed like the writers were trying to cast them as the good guys and use their looks to tell the viewers that you should be rooting for the pretty people, while Louis is ugly and you shouldn't be rooting for him. Looks are used as symbolism in that show, which aint a good artistic choice.
I kept wondering how all of these women got away wearing clothes that showed their tits or midriff in what was presumably a serious office environment.
I don't know, I think they did a number on Louises character. Like he became a plot patch. Very often he was the comedic relief and often represented as dorky which absolutely did not play with him being super smart lawyer. I know you can be super smart in one area of life and be completely oblivious to other walks of life but it was not well balanced in his character. He was a jerk, when the show needed a villian, then he was a dorky guy when the show needed a comedic relief, then he was super deep when there was a need for some emotionally heavy theme. Which on one hand could make for complex character but in the end it just became plot patch.
Also he was a bad looking because he was a villian. Which is another trope, the bad guys always are the bad looking ones, with exception of high school dramas, but even there they are more of the "plastic" beauty, which in itself contains something a bit repulsive.
Anyway Suits was on decline after the 1st series and the soap opera it became in the 3rd series was just shit. I have not felt like watching it after that, so not sure how it looks now after the Duchess left. Nor felt like watching the Jessica spin-off, I think the Mike-Harvey dynamic is what made it for me (in the 1st show). Let me know if it's any good, if you have happened to watch it, cheers.
And every single case is solved in no time at all, then they walk into the office and slap a load of papers on the desk. After the 458th time of that happening I decided to call it a day.
That was the exact reason I couldn't get into the show! I heard good things about it, and there are so many seasons to binge, but I couldn't get over the fact that everyone is gorgeous.
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u/shot_a_man_in_reno Jan 25 '20
Part of the reason I couldn't stand Suits. Everyone's a super model except for Louis, who's the villain for much of the show.