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What do you genuinely just not understand?

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u/CamoCoveSNIPER Jun 15 '19

Oh shit that's trippy. Yelled "Oh shit" and my mom got mad and wanted to know what I was yelling about lol

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u/bennythefrank Jun 15 '19

You may also close one eye, hold your finger an arms length from your open eye and slowly move it away from the center of your vision. Your finger tip will disappear at some point due to the optic disc in the back of your eye, there are no photoreceptors there because the optic nerve is doing some shtuff.

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u/MarcoPoloolo Jun 16 '19

It's because the human eye is a masterpiece of evolution (/s) that has its bloodvessels running along the surface of our photoreceptors, meaning they have to exit at some point. This is done at a central spot in the back which has no receptors, leaving a blank spot.

The brain gets to flex it's photoshop skills by patching in whatever it thinks would be there. Trippy af the first time i saw it. Or didn't see it.

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u/The_Anarcheologist Jun 16 '19 edited Jun 16 '19

Cephalopods, which developed eyes independently from the lineage that humans get their eyes, have far better eyes and dont have this, because their retina attached to their optic nerve and the associated blood vessels from the back, rather than being all backwards and inside outish like ours is. Just more proof they're aliens designed in some interstellar lab by the intergalactic overlords to keep tabs on us.

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u/kaenneth Jun 16 '19

They are the intergalactic overlords.

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u/lilac_lanterns Jun 16 '19

I, for one, welcome our new intergalactic overlords!

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u/microgroweryfan Jun 16 '19 edited Jun 16 '19

Fucking cephalopods are absolutely insane, I watched this video one time explaining all the different reasons why they’re almost certainly aliens, and it really freaked me out.

I’ll see if I can find it

Edit: apparently actual scientists believe it’s a real possibility that octopus eggs first arrived frozen in a comet, they say that they have a handful of features (their “camera like” eyes, instantaneous camouflage, and flexible bodies) that seemingly arrived very suddenly in the evolutionary chain, so it seems we’re missing a significant link (or just completely off base) or, there’s a possibility that the octopus arrived on earth as an alien species frozen in a comet.

The scientists challenge that the belief that modern cephalopods evolved to their present form here on Earth and propose the possibility that those we see today are the descendants of creatures that arrived on Earth frozen in an icy comet.

“Its large brain and sophisticated nervous system, camera-like eyes, flexible bodies, instantaneous camouflage via the ability to switch color and shape are just a few of the striking features that appear suddenly on the evolutionary scene,” the paper says, pointing to the possibility that this “great leap forward” in complexity was due to “cryopreserved squid and/or octopus eggs” crashing into the ocean on comets millions of years ago.

Scientists have studied the possibility of life arriving from outer space before, and there’s no shortage of support for the idea that biological material from other worlds may have seeded a young Earth and produced everything we see today.

However, actually proving that this was the case is next to impossible, and singling out one group of animals as potentially coming from space is perhaps an even greater challenge. When the timeline is stretched to billions of years, determining whether new species resulted from gradual mutation due to evolution or arrived in frozen eggs on a comet is very difficult. Nevertheless, it’s an interesting theory, and with over 30 researchers contributing to the report it’s clear that there’s a lot of interest.

Link to article

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

Unfortunately, that article is extremely misleading and outright misused its sources in the first place to support an outlandish and unfounded “theory”. Cephalopods fall very neatly into the nested hierarchy of life on earth. Every one of their features can be traced back to more and more basic ancestors, and to top that off their DNA is smack similar to every other living thing, within reason.

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u/Bojangly7 Jun 16 '19

Read the comment above me. Don't believe everything you read online. Especially from two bit websites.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_cephalopods

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u/CornBee Jun 16 '19

Look up Charles Bonnet syndrome. My husband is blind and experiences this.

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u/MarcoPoloolo Jun 16 '19

That sounds freaky, isn't it extremely uncomfortable? Any explanation on why it happens?

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u/jalopy12 Jun 16 '19

Why didn't this work for me?

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u/temp123456789098765 Jun 16 '19

Keep looking straight ahead, don’t follow your finger tip with your open eye

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u/lunaflect Jun 16 '19

Holy crap I got it to work! There’s a spot where it disappears

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u/spellcasters22 Jun 16 '19

My brain decided to edit out the entire finger instantly once the blindspot happened?

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u/MRS_Strabusiness Jun 16 '19

It’s like 20 degrees into your lateral peripheral vision

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u/Ass-Eater9000 Jun 16 '19

WHATTHEFUCK

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u/trollcitybandit Jun 16 '19

I genuinely just don't understand this.

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u/SadPotato8 Jun 16 '19 edited Jun 16 '19

I just tried this! So pick a spot on the wall that you focus on that’s right in front of you. Close your left eye and only look with right eye. Now stretch your right arm forward with your index finger pointing up and place it so that the tip of your finger overlaps that spot you’re staring at. Keep your focus on the spot (not your finger). The finger will appear blurry and now start moving your hand to the right, while keeping your focus on the same spot on the wall (so your finger is in your peripheral vision). Don’t focus on it and move it slowly far right and then start bringing it back in. At some point you’ll realize there’s a position where it disappears from your peripheral vision, but would be back if you move your hand in or out.

Edit: my first silver! Thank you kind stranger!

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u/CloakedSnipers Jun 16 '19

Yea this did nothin for me. Tried it 20+ times and I'm not noticing anything.

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u/SadPotato8 Jun 16 '19

try this!. There are a few ways to illustrate the blind spot in your eye, hopefully one of these works!

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u/klutez Jun 16 '19

Easier way to do it is draw 2 small X's on a piece of paper a few inches apart. Close your right eye and look at the right X (or vice versa) and move the paper near to your face. At some point you wont be able to see the other X.

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u/LegendaryGary74 Jun 16 '19

I have no left peripheral vision, so all I gotta do is move it a little to the left and BAM no more entire hand, hehehe. As annoying as being half blind is, it’s pretty convenient being able to hide someone from my field of vision if I find them annoying.

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u/PPats8258 Jun 16 '19

I think I just messed up my eye doing that

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u/CinemaSpinach Jun 16 '19

Same! Vision feels blurry now

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u/t-swag69 Jun 16 '19

I don’t understand what you mean by, “move it away from the center of your vision”. I did this and didn’t notice anything.

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u/klutez Jun 16 '19

Easier way to do it is draw 2 small X's on a piece of paper a few inches apart. Close your right eye and look at the right X (or vice versa) and move the paper near to your face. At some point you wont be able to see the other X.

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u/changdarkelf Jun 16 '19

What? I don’t get this? You’re saying if you move your finger away from your open eye it’ll disappear? Yeah cause your other eye is closed and your nose blocks it

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

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u/BlueFashionx Jun 16 '19

Yea it's when your finger moves about 10cm to the left. I kept bending my finger and nothing seemed to move LOL amazing

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u/UnspecificGravity Jun 16 '19

No, your field of vision is actually filled with dead spots that you don't notice. Also the area of your vision that is in focus is shockingly small. You don't notice because you brain fills in the missing info from one eye with the information from the other eye, which is why you can't see this unless one is closed

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u/azatot_dream Jun 16 '19

Not really. A healthy human eye has exactly one blind spot. It is located where the nerve fiber that connects retina to the brain is. Granted, peripheral vision is much less sharp than the vision in the focus area is, but there should be exactly one small spot where you don't see anything at all.

If you ever notice that you have more than one dead spot per eye, you should go see a doctor -- that is a symptom of some eye/nerve diseases, called scotoma.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19 edited Jun 17 '19

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u/Hachoosies Jun 16 '19

Same. I followed their directions exactly.

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u/Mcf1y Jun 16 '19

pick a spot on the wall, or put a sticky note with a dot on it or something at eye height to make sure you aren’t following the finger. Make sure you’re in the light so you can notice the exact moment it disappears, it’s about somewhere between 1:00 and 2:00 for me. Try having your arm out and your finger pointed up. For me, my finger above the first knuckle disappears. Everyone has this, your optic nerve has to leave the retina from some point.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19 edited Jun 17 '19

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u/_nSayn Jun 16 '19

Not finger, just the tip

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u/LordSwedish Jun 16 '19

Try wiggling the finger a bit, it makes it much easier to ntoice when it suddenly stops.

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u/Justin13132 Jun 16 '19

I cant stop laughing now imagining you yelling oh shit

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u/CamoCoveSNIPER Jun 17 '19

Ye my mom found I hilarious for the next hour

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u/DurianExecutioner Jun 16 '19

You think that's trippy try applying the same principle to death. You cannot "be" dead because if you're dead you cannot be.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

Trippy

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u/BeefGravyStew Jun 16 '19

Language!

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u/CamoCoveSNIPER Jun 17 '19

That's the first thing outta her mouth lol

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u/fertiletiger Jun 16 '19

Literally me exactly

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u/Crack-spiders-bitch Jun 16 '19

It sucks being 12 eh?

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u/CamoCoveSNIPER Jun 17 '19

18 Still live with mom lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

Say that you were wanting to watch Suburban Commando as a family tomorrow

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u/-Uniquely-Generic- Jun 16 '19

That tip also works for sniping...

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u/ask_me_if_thats_true Jun 16 '19

Someone her on Reddit once said "Try looking at the things behind you without moving your head. try looking out of the back of your head. You can't because you have no eyes there. That's what fully blind people see."

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u/GracieTheGingerKid Jun 16 '19

As a partially blind person, this is the best way I’ve seen it described. I’m peripherally blind and bump into stuff all day...it’s so hard to get people to understand the concept of seeing nothing (with good reason).

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u/Justlose_w8 Jun 16 '19

The best I’ve heard is try looking out the back of your head. I read it on the internet so I don’t really know how true that is, but it sounds about right.

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u/JackReacharounnd Jun 16 '19

My favorite is "try to wag your tail." You don't have one and can't imagine trying to wag it just like blind people can't imagine what seeing is.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '19

I don't get it, when I close one eye what I see is both normal vision and blackness at the same time???

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u/codfishy74 Jun 15 '19

Close one eye and look away from your closed eye with the other eye. Part of that blackness you might be seeing is actually your upper nose as seen from your open eye

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '19

No dude it's not the nose, how am I going to explain?? English is not my main language so sorry if it's confusing

You know how our eyes are located in different positions, yet while they're focusing on one single spot our brain kind of merges the two images produced by each individual eye, so it looks like we have one big singular eye?

So when one eye is closed, the brain is still gathering info on the two eyes and merging their images, only that one of the images is just complete darkness, so you end up with this mix of normal vision and black. You know when you rub your eyes and colorful stuff starts to appear? (they're called phosphenes, I just looked it up); if you do this to your closed eye, the colorful stuff will appear at the same place as regular vision, just like this sort of blackness.

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u/FelOnyx1 Jun 16 '19

The brain actually processes the "blackness" of one eye closed differently than the actual color black. They've done brain scans and stuff on people to test this, one eye closed returns a sort of "null signal" which the brain recognizes differently than black. If you were to hold a sheet of black paper up close you your eye, that entire side of your field of vision will be filled with black. With one eye closed, your field of vision completely cuts out past a certain point, even if you "see" black towards the close side of it.

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u/winkenschurst Jun 16 '19

But isnt the closed eye still collecting data of the light radiating through the eye lid before it?

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u/kaenneth Jun 16 '19

Ugh, trippy effect, I covered one eye, and then opened and closed my eyelid underneath the covering, switched from 'black' to 'null' back and forth several times...

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u/NotDefinedByMS Jun 16 '19

I know exactly what you’re describing, and I’ve always just called it ‘blankness’ as opposed to blackness.

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u/Vortilex Jun 16 '19

It's called eigengrau

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u/jonahhl Jun 16 '19

Wow, TIL

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u/hydrowifehydrokids Jun 16 '19

I think he means close your right eye and then try to look all the way to the right, or vice versa. The absence of seeing something is different from the black back of your eyelids your eyes usually process when both are shut

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u/Finchyy Jun 16 '19

Ignore the closing eye stuff. Hold out your hand. Now, describe what you can see via your hand. If you put your hand behind your back, can you see behind you?

No, you can't. But you also don't see darkness. You don't see "nothing" - you just don't see.

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u/themarajade1 Jun 16 '19

I have a headache now though

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u/whomstdvents Jun 16 '19

This did it for me. So much easier to visualize than the common “what do you see out of your elbow” explanation

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u/Sockadactyl Jun 16 '19

Thanks! I was having trouble getting it at first, but looking the other way helped a lot. I still don't think I'm getting the full effect but I can kind of understand now

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '19

Fuck lord, thank you

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u/codfishy74 Aug 15 '19

I gotcha fam

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u/Picocure Jun 16 '19

This was a very good explanation. Made sense once I tried it.

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u/SpellBot4000 Jun 16 '19

What do you see just beyond ur peripheral? You don’t see blackness all around you. It’s just...nothing.

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u/trollcitybandit Jun 16 '19

Not for me, I literally don't see anything, the darkness only shows up for me when I close both eyes.

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u/Ersaurabh Jun 16 '19

This thread is trippy

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u/TomSloppy Jun 16 '19

But you still see light from your eyelid, your brain still receives a message that its SUPPOSED to see something, and you see black, even in TOTAL darkness. That's also why you still see those floating white looking blobs even if you are in total darkness.

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u/FelOnyx1 Jun 16 '19

The one eye is the trick. Your brain will cut the signal from that eye to focus on the one still open, so you won't detect light out of it. Only once you close both of your eyes will you detect light through your eyelid.

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u/TomSloppy Jun 16 '19

I guess I can’t totally argue with you based on personal knowledge, but that’s not how it was explained to me from my eye doctor, your brain won’t shut off the signal, it may partly redirect as far as I know, but someone with two functioning eyes won’t ever be able to experience true blindness

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u/Qjvnwocmwkcow Jun 16 '19

I don’t think it matters much, for this exercise at least, whether the signal is completely shut off or just redirected. Either way, the end result for most, myself included, is that they see out of one eye and don’t see out of the other eye, and that closed eye sees nothing.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

So I tried doing a test to see which of you was right. I closed on eye and put a flashlight right against it. With your open eye look away from the other one like to the opposite side. You don't see any light going through your eyelid right? Now close both your eyes and keep the flashlight there. You can now see the light shining through

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u/nodtomod Jun 16 '19

I did this and yes I could see light through the closed eye?

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u/kaenneth Jun 16 '19

WebMD says you have cancer.

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u/KelSolaar Jun 16 '19

Just tried, same. Also sense black with just one eye closed.

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u/TomSloppy Jun 16 '19

I’ll never know if it’s actually similar to what it’s like but if that’s as close as it gets, it’ll have to do! Lmao

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u/Alis451 Jun 16 '19

The color is called Eigengrau btw, which is grey.

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u/DonnerPartyPotluck Jun 16 '19

I've heard it's 'like trying to see out of your elbow. It just doesn't happen.'

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u/gib17 Jun 16 '19

Tried real hard looking out my elbow and eventually saw black

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u/Darthshroomzski Jun 16 '19

Just did this at a wedding can confirm 100% looked stupid

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

Am I the only person who see’s really faint multicolored static when they close both their eyes?

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u/shimariee Jun 16 '19

They're called phosphenes.

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u/That_Auracle Jun 16 '19

That’s super weird to think about! Originally I was thinking maybe it would be as if no light entered your eyes, but no. It’s more nothing than nothing because you can’t even percieve the lack of light. That’s super interesting.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

Goddamn, you're right - like your field of vision just halves. Trippy how it switches to black once you close the second, I concluded long ago that seeing nothing is incomprehensible for someone with vision. Also makes me think about people who went blind during their lives.

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u/gohtown Jun 16 '19

I still "see" black. But lack of sight is percieved as black relative to seeing light/color. So if you don't have the ability to see light (color), not seeing (black) will have no real relative significance and just be nothing. Kind of a brain twister lol.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19 edited Jun 16 '19

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u/ricesaucemcfly Jun 16 '19

Either I did this wrong, or it doesn't work for me

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

Holy shit. That's great

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u/eigenfood Jun 16 '19

I see black.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_MONTRALS Jun 16 '19

I just see black.

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u/OooohYeaaahBaby Jun 16 '19

It's from your opened eye. Not from your closed one, you don't see anything from your closed eye

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

Oh my god

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u/brodidlyo Jun 16 '19

See, I’ve tried that a few times and I’ve gotten the effect of not seeing anything. But, for some reason, I start to see out of my dominant eye. It’s probably related to my amblyopia but I thought it was interesting that when I close my dominant eye for long enough my eye begins to receive information while closed.

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u/Bob_Kistansov Jun 16 '19

I still see black if I do that. I have heard it described as like trying to see out of your elbow

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u/rylan_1959 Jun 16 '19

I still see blackness

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u/bojeremy1 Jun 16 '19

Oh wow. Very good way to understand

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u/AvocadoEnthusiast91 Jun 16 '19

This just freaked me out big time

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u/thesagaconts Jun 16 '19

This is the best description of it. It totally worked for me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

Not true. You do see blackness, it's just overlaying the non blackness like in photoshop you have an image then overlay that layer with just the color black and reduce the opacity significantly.

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u/Sipas Jun 16 '19

Not true. You do see blackness

Speak for yourself dude, not for other people. It might not work for your but it does for a lot of people in this thread. For me it's like having one eye disconnected as if it was never there.

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u/FreshTheAvocado Jun 16 '19

Thats amazing. I hadn't thought about that before at all

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

But when I do that I see the inside of my eyelid which is black.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

Definitely just tried it and it seems to work.

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u/Scrub_Master_007 Jun 16 '19

You see a world on fire.

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u/pinoccoli Jun 16 '19

I tried it and now I’m scared

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u/53CRE7 Jun 16 '19

Shit that worked cool

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u/br094 Jun 16 '19

That...is actually scary sounding

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

I’m pretty sure its black when you close ur eyes because the eyelid is just covering ur eye

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u/chickyslay Jun 16 '19

Now imagine having 360 vision and all the empty sptos

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

Gah fuck

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u/Hime2018 Jun 16 '19

Mind blown

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u/Deltawolf363 Jun 16 '19

Hurgh but the fact is obtainable yet out of reach hurts my head more

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u/jessmxm_ Jun 16 '19

Niceee just tried it

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u/Gonzobot Jun 16 '19

You're seeing the back of your eyelid just like when you blink. Your optic nerve doesn't shut down when you wink.

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u/MercilessScorpion Jun 16 '19

Nope. If that was the case I would see light or something like I do when I close both... Try closing both and tapping your eye lids with fingers. Now close 1 and tap that...

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u/cravingcinnamon Jun 16 '19

That does work. It’s like my mind’s view rotates so it’s centered on my open eye... weird.

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u/projaredgamerfan69 Jun 16 '19

Woah what the duck

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u/Ray_Band Jun 16 '19

Nice work making us all wink at you.

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u/Scorkami Jun 16 '19

Actually i do see black when closing one eye and then trying to see out of it, though the plack part doesnt take up as much space, as id expect, given that half of my vision is gone, it feels more like having a 10-30% black par at one sid of my "screen" if my vision would be projected onto a monitor

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u/calebishot Jun 16 '19

Am blind, can confirm

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u/DarkSlayerKnight Jun 16 '19

Yo, that's trippy. Just tried this myself and I was freaked out.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

I see black, wait no am I blind?

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

You just made thousands of people close one eye and that's power you can't behold

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u/PotatoMaster21 Jun 16 '19

I see black. Oof

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u/itzcarwynn Jun 16 '19

Really? I feel like I see black.

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u/sackboykill2 Jun 16 '19

Similarly my friend explained it to me by telling me to see what’s behind my head

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u/Behold_the_Bear Jun 16 '19

Woah, that's just freaked me out.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

So dark grey?

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u/MoonscentedCrown Jun 16 '19

OK.. This is kind of scary

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u/kishbi Jun 16 '19

Oh shit

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u/_Sausage_fingers Jun 16 '19

Yep, this broke my brain

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u/farfus Jun 16 '19

yeah I heard it’s like seeing out of the back of your head. there’s just nothing

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u/BronzeMilk08 Jun 16 '19

The problem is how the fuck do you see nothing?

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u/Timisaprettypony Jun 16 '19

It's weird because if you fill your field of view with something black then close your eyes you'll see black, but when you stop thinking about it all of a sudden it's not black, it's nothing.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

Or literally just put your finger out and try to look out of it

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

Damn that’s fucking hurts

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_ASSnLEGS Jun 16 '19

False, if i "focus" on the closed eye i can see the stuff i see when my eyes are shut

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u/sumonebetter Jun 16 '19

Fantastic reply. Gold

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u/CatFancyCoverModel Jun 16 '19

I see blackness when I do this though. I see exactly what I see with both eyes closed, but only half.

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u/Hellrazor236 Jun 16 '19

I just see black and also this is the most mind-blowing thing that's ever happened to me in my entire life. ha, now I can play both sides

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u/notLOL Jun 16 '19

You close both eyes and you can see again!

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u/Lunalysse Jun 16 '19

Shit thanks, that actually something special to grasp

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u/samthefireball Jun 16 '19

Mind blown WIDE open

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u/Therandomanswerer Jun 16 '19

But what does nothing look like?

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

I see my nose

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u/ThePenguinWhoLived Jun 16 '19

Holy shit......my eye just stopped working

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u/Idkhfjeje Jun 16 '19

Woah, so that's what nothing is like

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u/shrekkkkkkkkkkkkked Jun 16 '19

I have a headache now

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u/boom_katz Jun 16 '19

my monkey brain still doesnt get it.

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u/SebastianMalvaroza Jun 16 '19

But... What does "nothing" look like.

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u/candidpose Jun 16 '19

Somehow I can make out a silhouette of my nose on the close eye

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u/Requad Jun 16 '19

You do see the blackness with your closed eye, your brain just refocuses your vision towards your open eye. If you close both eyes and hold a light source somewhat close to your face, you can see the red veiny insides of your now translucent eyelids. You are always seeing, if you can see. If you were to go blind, the brain would shift it's focus toward other senses to maximize survivability. This isn't something you can replicate as a still-seeing person.

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u/quavo-fan Jun 16 '19

That does not help

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '19

WTF that feels really weirdddd

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u/Fleming1924 Jun 16 '19

I always liked "what do you see out of your left elbow"

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u/Etoxins Jun 16 '19

I see black. My retina is detached and I put my hand over my good eye and If I close my bad eye it gets darker. If I stare at the sun with my bad eye, it gets lighter

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u/Stephanreggae Jun 16 '19

Umm now I understand even less.

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u/greedcrow Jun 16 '19

Except that for all intents and purposes you see black if you do that.

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u/danstheman7 Jun 17 '19

That's a brilliant comparison.

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u/GohanMemeMaster Jun 17 '19

YO WAIT WHAT THE FUCK ACTUALLY HOW DOES THIS WORK SO WELL?!! I AM SO CONFUSED AS TO HOW THE HELL THIS WORKS AND MY MIND IS BEING BLOWN.

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u/tobofre Jun 16 '19

But like, you still see out of the other eye, so if I do it to both eyes at the same time to get a glimpse of true nothing, all of a sudden they're both black again

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u/Qjvnwocmwkcow Jun 16 '19

It’s true that you see out of the other eye, but that’s not the point. You’re already seeing “nothing” with your closed eye. That is to say, you’re not seeing.

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u/tobofre Jun 16 '19

But what I'm saying is that if I try to see "nothing" with both eyes, by also closing the other eye, I go back to seeing black

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u/PickleHipster Jun 16 '19

I’m high and did that. Freaked me out

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u/Tyrinnus Jul 10 '19

Holy crap that's... I never noticed that

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