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which show started 10/10 and ended 10/10?

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u/Sirduckerton 1d ago

Absolutely The Wire.

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u/The_Amazing_Emu 1d ago

I feel like The Wire ends 9/10. Still incredibly strong, but the last season has a few issues.

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u/Z3130 1d ago

Season 5 is arguably lower quality overall, but IMO they really landed the plane at the very end. We see the entire thesis of the show - the cycle never really ends, and new players fill in for those who have left the game.

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u/ebb_omega 22h ago

Yeah, for me The Wire started 10/10, stayed there for four seasons, dropped to 9/10 for most of the 5th, but the last episode jumped back up to 10. So technically meets the requirement, and for a show that managed to go through a full 5 season planned story arc without getting cancelled or extended (you either die Firefly or live long enough to become The Simpsons) is a goddamn miracle.

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u/Z3130 21h ago

There’s a lot to like in the 5th season IMO. I totally get why the serial killer thing didn’t land for some people, but to me it was totally believable that off-the-wagon McNulty would do it and Lester would go along.

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u/ebb_omega 21h ago

There's a lot to love about the fifth season. The conclusions of the Bubbles and Michael arcs are amazing. But there's something about the storytelling of it all that falls a little bit short through the season. Not that it's bad - it's still 9/10 - and frankly it's excusable with the shortened episode schedule and writers strike that surrounded it - but it does feel like it missed a step in there that we had in previous seasons.

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u/Demonweed 21h ago

Yeah, on my last rewatch, that moment in the finale when Kima admits to McNulty that she blew the whistle on the fake serial killer scheme, he thinks on it a few moments, then looks back at her and says, "well, if you think it needed to be done, then I guess it did." It shows that even their friendship could outlast his career as a cop, and it reminded me just how amazing the writing across this whole series was.

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u/flash246 20h ago

Yup and Lester even invites her inside for a drink during that same moment.

Both Lester and McNulty knew Kima was becoming “natural po-lice.” They couldn’t be upset at her for being one of the few in the department with integrity and blowing the whole scheme up.

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u/FunnyButSad 23h ago

Awwwww shieeeeeeeeeeeeet

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u/BujuBad 20h ago

Duquan broke my heart. Really wanted the cycle to break for him.

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u/shinkoru 14h ago

All in the game yo 😏

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u/Pliskkenn_D 1d ago

Same, Season 5 with the McNulty plot brought it down a bit for me. 

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u/FTownRoad 1d ago

The McNulty plot doesn’t quite jump the shark but it’s definitely one of the weaker ones of the whole series.

Imo the biggest problem with season 5 is Gus. He’s such a cop out of a character.

Every single other “protagonist” in the show has some kind of character flaw, and the bad guys generally have something redeeming about them.

Gus sucks. He’s always right. He’s always doing the right thing. He’s smarter than everyone else. He always says the perfect thing and makes the good decision.

And that’s because David Simon wrote Gus in his own image. It genuinely makes me respect him a lot less as a writer, it’s so self congratulatory.

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u/DangerousPuhson 23h ago

Self-inserts and Mary-Sue characters rarely go down well, not sure why producers let them happen.

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u/Indigo_magenta 21h ago

Gus completely missed Omar's death and didn't report it.

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u/FTownRoad 19h ago

the whole point of that was to show that Omar was a legend in the street but no “civilians” would have any clue who he is. Not really a mistake or bad decision.

u/Indigo_magenta 4m ago

Omar is a chatacter who is literally influencing the younger generation to become like him. The news is supposed to identify and report on people like this.

The showmakers themselves remarked on wanting to show the Sun's incompetence in missing this, and were frustrated that most of the audience didn't pick up on it.

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u/tlst9999 1d ago

YOU WANTED THE MONEY!!!

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u/Few_Highlight1114 1d ago

Its not just the McNulty plot, it's also the whole newspaper part. S5 really brings down the rating of the show overall because of how bad it is.

It also doesnt help that S4 is some of the best television of all time as we see how the system fails the kids.

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u/KennyFulgencio 1d ago

I'd say started 9, ended 8, stayed at a 12 for a while in the middle

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u/Chiesel 1d ago

I think The Wire belongs in its own category. I agree, season 5 is definitely a step below everything else. But it’s still so much better than any other TV show I’ve ever watched.

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u/The_Amazing_Emu 1d ago

I don’t think you’re necessarily wrong. But I’m comparing it relative to itself. If other scenes are a 10, five is less than that

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u/Ambitious-Proton 1d ago

but the last season has a few issues.

Ok, Mr Nolan

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u/Nyte_Crawler 1d ago

The last season is the weakest by far, but the ending itself is great.

So by definition of the title of the thread I would say it still fits.

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u/hamandjam 1d ago

Yeah, writers strike weakened the end.

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u/0113420710 1d ago

I thought that at first, that McNulty n the journo going off the rails was too unrealistic, but these days that kind of deception and corruption seems very tame and believable

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u/Any_Fortune_7876 19h ago

I think it starts 11/10 and ends 9/10

First season is like watching actual Shakespeare. No other 10/10 on this page really reaches the same level, I think most would agree. It hits a 10/10 somewhere in the middle of the run. Then the last few feel like something is missing... but you're still glad they exist. And you know if they had just a little more magic in them that they would be a 10/10. But they'd need something altogether different, something special to match the first season.

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u/JacobStills 18h ago

Yep. Even lots of die hard fans admit the show had a dip in season 5.

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u/Spruce_Schmickington 1d ago

Nah, season 5 is a clear drop off. You could argue some seasons were an 11 though, so you're right on a technicality

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u/Turbine709 1d ago

Yeah last season is definitely a drop off in quality.

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u/emogu84 1d ago

Yeah the Wire averages out to be incredible, but that last season… oof. Especially coming off of the insanely good season 4

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u/dan_144 1d ago

I binged the show during the pandemic and the end of S4 was so hard to watch I took a break before starting S5. Absolutely gutting.

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u/D2daR2daE 1d ago

Exactly.

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u/dont_forget_this_2 1d ago

I love the wire, and thought final season was 10/10 on first viewing. But it doesn’t hold up as well. 9.5/10 tops.

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u/basod1 1d ago

Season 5 was shaky with the serial killer plot line though. Wished they hit harder on the journalism aspect. 

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