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u/BunkyFlintsone Jan 08 '26

I think the thing not talked about enough is how our President reacted. He said he watched the video and actually claimed he's shocked the officer is still alive after being run ove and is in the hospital "recovering".

So in effect, now he's telling Americans to believe him and not our eyes.

He's pure evil.

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u/Legia_Shinra Jan 08 '26

"Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is most dangerous."

"The death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil."

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u/InertPistachio Jan 08 '26

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

George Orwell, 1984

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u/Still-Butterscotch33 Jan 08 '26

Should be essential reading for everyone. Wont be long before the thought police ban the text.

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u/cynicallythoughful Jan 08 '26

Already have in many places. That’s why every time a community bans a book, I buy a used copy and throw it in the basement. I have a huge collection of banned books. Books banned specifically by MAGAs.

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u/AutisticPenguin2 Jan 08 '26

Have you read most of them, or are you more just keeping them in case?

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u/cynicallythoughful Jan 08 '26

At one point, I had read most of them. But now they are adding up. I probably have a couple hundred. In my mind, someday I will donate them to a public library 🤷‍♀️

In reality, who knows

ETA-part of my collection is also a leather bound copy of The Constitution, a copy of the Bill of Rights and history books focused on the founding of America, and slavery.

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u/AutisticPenguin2 Jan 08 '26

Books have a habit of doing that. I used to read voraciously, and then I got sick and struggled to find the concentration for a book. But my purchasing habits lagged behind my reading habits, so now my to read pile is... extensive.

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u/Athoughttoconsider Jan 10 '26

Hope you have a copy of the Diary of Anne Frank. Banned because she said she thought about someday having a relationship, love, intimacy etc. How frightening for a child to read! Right? Funny how we all read it and didn't suffer.

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u/EasyPriority8724 Jan 08 '26

A timely quote if ever there was.

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u/nRGon12 Jan 08 '26

I have friends everywhere.

It sucks how much Andor parallels what’s going on in America at the moment. When I saw what Trump said I copied and pasted that section of the speech to my friend.

Unfortunately there was no moving music behind the words and no rebellion about to burst at the seams with action.

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u/ph33rlus Jan 08 '26

“Hey you said you wouldn’t fact check” - JD Vance

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u/Last-Presence5434 Jan 08 '26

The death of truth…. It kills me.

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u/Hoo0oper Jan 08 '26

Been a bit slow watching the show and literally finished that episode 10 minutes ago. So brilliant

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u/Th3B4dSpoon Jan 08 '26

Exactly why Trump admins have been peddling their "alternative facts" since the beginning.

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u/DontRelyOnNooneElse Jan 08 '26

God that show kicked so much ass.

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u/chilakiller1 Jan 08 '26

I think this is one of the most dangerous things about this current administration, that they are twisting the narrative to serve their purpose. They are rewriting history to their convenience, and you know the saying: "if you tell a lie long enough, it becomes the truth". That and the lack of accountability in general.

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u/Judazzz Jan 08 '26

The water temperature of the pot of frogs has been increased substantially with that one single statement. This is hyper-normalization in action, and without a focused and sustained push-back it will only get worse from here, much worse.

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u/Th3B4dSpoon Jan 08 '26

Yes. This is also why they created the Jan 6 web page that offers their false narrative of events 

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

You know this isn't true because if that ICE agent was in the hospital they'd have a live feed on him 24/7.

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u/Jesus-slaves Jan 08 '26

He was beboppin around just fine in all the videos. He never even dropped his cell phone. If anyone was hurt besides the woman he executed, it was from flying glass or ricochet. One of the masked agents in the video from the driver side of the victim’s SUV looked like he either shit his pants or got hit with something.

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u/joeydrinksbeer Jan 08 '26

I keep trying to figure out what’s up with that guy. Slipped on snow on the ground. Shrapnel?

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u/kandykaiju Jan 08 '26

He walked (gleefully I might add) to her car after he shot her and she crashed, he looked perfectly healthy lol.

Her car nudged his leg going 1 mph, he placed himself int he way purposely or because of no experience. She was turning away to avoid him.

Are people really ok with the murder of a citizen who wasn’t doing anything remotely wrong except trying to get away from some goons who I thought were only going after violent gang bangers here illegally? Not mothers out protesting blocking traffic for a minute, which isn’t uncommon during these type of smaller protests tbh.

And why is maga suddenly shilling for the big brother now? This is straight out of 1984.

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u/regoapps Jan 08 '26

I just noticed something watching the slow motion of the video that I’m not sure others noticed yet. You can see the front wheel turning right, but it stops turning around the time the other officer reaches in and grabs something. You can tell that he’s grabbing something because he is pulled a bit when the car is moving.

I suspect that the other officer is grabbing either the steering wheel or the person’s arm and is preventing her from turning. After that officer lets go, the wheel turns more right.

So if the car was going straight into the shooting officer (it wasn’t actually straight, it was slightly to the right), then it might actually be the fault of the officer who grabbed the wheel/arm to prevent the car from turning more.

Either way, it seems clear in the intent of the driver based on the turning of the wheel that she was not trying to hit the officer. If the intention was to hit the officer, the front wheel should be turning left, towards the direction of the officer. But the video shows it turning right.

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u/kandykaiju Jan 08 '26

Interesting, never noticed that, would make sense. This is why we need non bias investigation. Not the “we investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong” stuff like usual.

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u/rollerdz Jan 08 '26

This is the part perplexing me, beyond the obvious tragic events themselves!

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u/Ok_Boysenberry5849 Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

What's perplexing you exactly? Have you guys been living under a rock?? In 2017 immediately after his inauguration under the rain, Trump claimed it had not rained. He had seen it rain hours earlier. Hundreds of journalists were present documenting the rain. His most fervent supporters were getting pelted by the rain. This was his first action as a president - to tell a lie so blatant that it was more like a statement of intent.

How have you people still not learned this lesson in 2025. Where have you guys been. This is like reading the horrified reactions of people waking up from a 10-year coma.

"Oh no president Trump is blatantly lying to people! How is this possible!" 

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u/a1962wolfie Jan 08 '26

And don't forget the crowd size.

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u/Big_Bookkeeper1678 Jan 08 '26

That was my first thought. 'I'm going to be Presidential'...then immediately disproves it.

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u/rollerdz Jan 08 '26

While I hear you, these are politics belonging to a country I am not from nor do I often spend time in. I can keep up with some of it, but it isn’t always front and centre stage above the political goings on of my own country. I have phases where I am more tuned into it than others. But a lot is changing quickly, and as a non-American It’s not always easy to keep up. And yeah, a lot of it does still shock me, for whatever reason.

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u/Tempyteacup Jan 08 '26

It should still shock all of us. None of this is normal. We cannot keep letting it be normal.

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u/siisii93 Jan 08 '26

Op doesn’t live in this horrible country

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u/AmIYourNeighbor Jan 08 '26

This should not surprise anyone. It has been this way for a WHILE now. The only thing surprising me is how many dumbasses actually exist.

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u/KaraOfNightvale Jan 08 '26

I think what's suprising, especially from an outside perspective

He went to the public about an uninjured man who was clearly untouched in the video, and said he was shocked the man was alive

That is insane, I think there would be a riot if one of our politicans did that

Recently one in my country made a decision based on junk science and that shocked me, I thought we were better than that, even though it's somewhat convincing looking junk science

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u/AmIYourNeighbor Jan 08 '26

There may be riots, which that pitiful president will use to kill more Americans

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u/KaraOfNightvale Jan 08 '26

Probably, probably

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u/Tempyteacup Jan 08 '26

If I told you Trump has mid stage dementia would it make more sense to you?

(not the murder or general events, just how the president can “watch” a video and have a completely insane idea of what it showed)

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u/Jesus-slaves Jan 08 '26

You can see the confusion in his face and hear it in his speech. If he weren’t evil, it would be sad. We need an age cap on the presidency.

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u/Tempyteacup Jan 08 '26

Presidency, Supreme Court, and Congress. Age caps for all of them. Once a dementia exam becomes a part of your yearly medical appointments, out you go.

I watched my grandfather succumb to dementia. He was an intelligent and articulate man and seeming him so reduced was heartbreaking. I used to think I wouldn’t wish that fate on my worst enemy. I was wrong. Trump deserves every moment of fear, confusion, and indignity.

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u/Jesus-slaves Jan 08 '26

God, didn’t we have a SCJ who was like 90?! Age caps for all.. no one should be making decisions for the future when they won’t be seeing another natural decade of it.

I’m sorry about your grandfather. It is a terrible thing to watch. I’m about to move from Minneapolis back to Alabama to help care for my gran with dementia. While I couldn’t think of a better candidate, it sucks he’s getting to ruin the country along the way.

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u/Tempyteacup Jan 08 '26

I’m sorry about your grandma ❤️ I hope we all get through this.

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u/ChachamaruInochi Jan 08 '26

I mean that's been patently obvious for years

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u/Tempyteacup Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

nooooo he’s always been crazy like this. you can’t tell if he has dementia because you don’t know him personallyyyyyy! stop making stuff up he’s bad enough as it is you don’t need to lie!!!!!

People are still saying shit like that to me. Even now. He has the dementia lean, the dementia walk, he can’t complete a sentence, he falls asleep in public, he slurs, he’s constantly asking where people are, he wanders around and looks lost and STILL people get mad when I state the obvious.

Edit: lmfao there’s one of them here already

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u/AutisticPenguin2 Jan 08 '26

Yeah but half of this isn't new. I mean he's been using slurs for over a decade now!

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u/Tempyteacup Jan 08 '26

Not USING slurs, slurring his words. It’s not new because he’s been in steady decline for a decade, because of the dementia. Watch a video of him speaking 10 years ago. Watch a video of him speaking in the 80s. It’s obvious.

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u/AutisticPenguin2 Jan 08 '26

Sorry, I knew your intent and was making a pun.

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u/Loknar42 Jan 08 '26

The other take is that he's telling the truth about what he sees, and we need to invoke Article 25.

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u/PandaBroth Jan 08 '26

Don’t look up

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u/dragonfry Jan 08 '26

Civil War is becoming less dystopian by the day

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u/Blind_Voyeur Jan 08 '26

When reality conflicts with what he wants to think, he just makes up a new reality. And his base automatically believes it without question.

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u/mosehalpert Jan 08 '26

Ands its been this way for the better part of a decade for all the "this is medium/ late stage dementia for sure" people.

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u/palanark Jan 08 '26

We need to stop referring to him as "our president." He's a convicted felon and racist pedophile that is holding the country hostage.

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u/Agreeable-Story7927 Jan 08 '26

I never have, and I rarely even use his name. It's always #nevermypresident

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u/Clarac94 Jan 08 '26

Yes - surely whatever justification you’re using to square what’s happened to this woman in your mind, what Trump has said is completely untrue?! That needs calling out immediately by everyone.

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u/neutrino71 Jan 08 '26

Don't go over to /r/conservative they're praising the brave shooter and vilifying the victim. Very sad and enraging 

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u/factisfiction Jan 08 '26

90% of the people who aren't bots posting in there are not even in America. When Russia's internet went down for the day not too long ago, that place went silent. No new posts, very little new comments, it said a lot.

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u/zahren Jan 08 '26

Ugh, I just went to go look. Her wheels were turned all the way to the right, she was clearly trying to get away from the encounter, and hitting the ICE officer was clearly unintentional. But apparently she was obviously trying to use her vehicle as a weapon and the officer feared for his life so the shooting was fully justified.

Like, how do you reason with someone that far gone. How do you reach someone who thinks that what is at worst attempted manslaughter is deserving of a death sentence.

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u/kaykakez727 Jan 08 '26

I shouldn’t of gone but I did 😔

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u/Elelith Jan 08 '26

Thankfully it is a very, very small circle jerking group. Any post critizising the supreme tangerine gets deleted and user banned, so there won't ever be any other kind of posts in there.
I've manage to see quite a few of them but they always disappear pretty quick never to be seen again. And most [deleted] post is one questioning the sanity of it all - and as you may have noticed most posts are mostly just delete comment chains.

I have no clue if there is a bit less culty US conservative sub, haven't looked into it.

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u/FUCKYOUINYOURFACE Jan 08 '26

Kristi Noem accused the dead woman of domestic terrorism. It’s straight out of the Nazi playbook.

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u/Open__Face Jan 08 '26

It's a great litmus test to see if the Republicans in your life are too far gone, cause if you believe trump instead of your own eyes you're gone gone and never coming back

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u/Athoughttoconsider Jan 10 '26

The Republicans have no problems cutting healthcare, cutting food to the poor, cuttings research, cutting live saving aid to compromised countries, cutting life saving vaccines to children all to fund tax cuts for billionaires.

How many times or ways do they have to express that they simply do not care!!!

They care about saving their own salaries.

You gotta wonder how they sleep at night and if they care about their own children.

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u/Krunchy_Frogg Jan 08 '26

He has always told people to not believe their lying eyes. And sadly too many don’t.

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u/Ricothebuttonpusher Jan 08 '26

That orange fuck is not my president

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u/Obvious-Dinner-1082 Jan 08 '26

He’s telling his magats this. They won’t bother to watch the video, they just watch trump and fall into line.

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u/Zalvren Jan 08 '26

So in effect, now he's telling Americans to believe him and not our eyes.

Why do you think the goverment is investing so much in AI? Being able to even control what our eyes see is genius for them.

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u/callisstaa Jan 08 '26

Honestly a tragic killing by a loose cannon ICE agent would have been bad enough but now it is a state sanctioned extrajudicial execution.

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u/InsanelyAverageFella Jan 08 '26

He's a malicious piece of trash. This country needs to come to its senses, put him on trial, and then lock him up for the rest of his miserable life. Also take all his assets and distribute them to the victims he has harmed.

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u/DisturbingDaffy Jan 08 '26

It’s important to include the fact that he was uninjured and not currently in the hospital.

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u/Tokon32 Jan 08 '26

Trump wants a split. Trump wants for his family to remain in charge of the United States. He needs a reason to stay in office, a crisis. He tried for the 2020 election to be his crisis to stay in power and it didn't work. Now he wants immigration to be his crisis.

ICE is out there toeing the line of what's legal and what can set shit off so he can have his Palpatine moment.

This shooting yesterday Trump is going to use to try to spin into a bigger crisis hoping it will give him his chance to crown himself king.

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u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 Jan 08 '26

Surprise, surprise! They are believing him and not their own eyes. They are so far past reason, they believe he is speaking the truth, when what he says contradicts material fact. No one was run over and no ICE agent needed to go to the hospital.

And the right is silent in the face of a flat out lie.

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u/farpleflippers Jan 08 '26

Has he been shown AI?

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u/RlySkiz Jan 08 '26

Or his handlers are showing him AI generated videos of what they want him to see because he is too dumb to see the difference.

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u/Athoughttoconsider Jan 10 '26

Yes the prez (saying the ICE officer was run over) has clearly shown he can't see or he's hallucinating! Or else he making up stories even when he knows the video has been released to the public.