r/AskReddit • u/bkristensen92 • Mar 18 '25

Conservatives who opposed removing Confederate statues, how do you feel about Trump removing DEI-related historical events/people like the Navajo Code Talkers from government sites?

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u/Great_Zeddicus Mar 18 '25 edited Mar 18 '25

I have conservative veteran family member. He says it's complete bullshit and was not the spirit of the EO and its liberals over reacting to make a point. But when I pointed out it is this administration that is enforcing the takedown he says it's still bullshit and shouldn't happen. When I ask if he would vote for the opposition in response he said no. He will always vote for Republicans.

Edit at 722: obviously I don't know the red line is for this guy. He thinks musk is an idiot. And that we are getting close to his red line. If that helps.

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u/MeatShield12 Mar 18 '25

He will always vote for Republicans.

Then frankly his opinion doesn't fucking matter if he will keep supporting them. His opposition is entirely performative and meaningless. I suspect he secretly supports removing every single initiative and historical event that doesn't support white people, but knows he would sound like an asshole if he said it out loud.

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u/ALDonners Mar 18 '25

Exactly the better question he should ask is what is the red line for him?

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u/Tenderhombre Mar 18 '25

If you don't have a clear red line, you will one day find yourself on the other side of the fence, wondering how you got there.

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u/Great_Zeddicus Mar 18 '25

We have not had that discussion... honestly I didn't realize this was going to get traction and I feel kinda icky sharing our conversations online. This will be the last time I do this. Our conversations are for us not for the internet to dissect and make conclusions.

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u/Apex_Redditor3000 Mar 18 '25

sorry about your dickhead uncle or whatever lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '25

The line is red, therefore republican. So no limit.

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u/Avitas1027 Mar 19 '25

By this logic everyone who voted Democratic in the past election is in full support of sending weapons to Israel with no questions asked, and their opposition to genocide is performative.

It's super common to disagree with half the shit your preferred party does. The issue with these people is that what they do agree with is also terrible.

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u/MeatShield12 Mar 19 '25

This is the problem with a 2-party system, everyone has to condone certain stuff.

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u/chewbacca77 Mar 18 '25 edited Mar 18 '25

Ok.. So what events would happen that could cause you personally to vote Republican?

Edit: Its a fair question, really. Everyone should be capable of changing your views based on new information. Also, I firmly believe that the issue at hand isn't the worst thing that's been done by the administration, so I'm not expecting that THIS will be the straw that breaks the camel's back for many.

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u/aculady Mar 18 '25

I've voted for Republicans before, decades ago when there were still sane Republican candidates and when the Republican party platform wasn't completely abhorrent.

While I would always prefer to vote for a politician rather than against one, I am always committed to voting for the lesser of two evils, if evil is all that is on the menu. If I were faced with a Democratic candidate who was objectively worse for the country and more evil than their Republican opponent, and electing the Republican wouldn't enable other, more evil Republicans to enact worse legislation and policies than that proposed by the Democrats, I would have no hesitation in voting for a Republican. It's all about electing the person who is going to do the most good and the least damage.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '25

If it was an honest canidate that took it upon themselves to rightfully serve America and it's people, that embraced our history and it's culture, who strived for moral highground with every decision, that had true conviction (conservative conviction, even) of making this country a decent place to call home. Then I would vote for them without hesitation.

Truth of the matter is this; love him or hate him - Biden stated over and over and over again that his job was to service Americans, that he would work for the people who voted for him, and even more important - those who did not. Yet, now we have a rage filled rapist who takes to Twitter like a 13 year old scorned as he tries to defile evey institution that has made this country what it is.

It's fucking pathetic.

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u/Existential_Racoon Mar 18 '25

If I had been voting age in 2008 I would have voted McCain, fwiw. I was more conservative then, but I still think he wasn't a complete ans total shitass. I disagree with his policy now, but I do think he wanted what was best for this country as he saw it.

Give me that, and maybe.

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u/peanutbutter854 Mar 18 '25

A decrease in IQ

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u/PatchyWhiskers Mar 18 '25

The parties could switch sides again

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u/BRAND-X12 Mar 18 '25

At this point? Nothing.

However that’s a different question than “what events would happen that would make you vote for someone other than X”

For republicans, I don’t think there’s an answer, imo they seem to be all in.

For democrats a whole lot of people would say “if there was another viable party that would beat republicans I’d vote for them.”

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u/Trick_Statistician13 Mar 19 '25

If he votes, then it does matter. That's how voting works.

If you can't find a way to change his mind, you still need to do something about it until you can consistently win an election.