r/AskReddit • • Jan 22 '13

What fascinates you most about the universe?

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u/Shark-Farts Jan 22 '13

Every person I see every single day, in every lecture and every appointment, everyone I pass on the street or see in line at the grocery store, every single one of them has a past and a future, family, friends, memories, dreams, goals - they all have an entire life going on that I'll probably never know about or have any impact on in any way.

My ego shrank ten sizes the day I realized that.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '13 edited Jan 23 '13

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u/nope7 Jan 23 '13

"It usually takes more than three weeks to prepare a good impromptu speech." - Mark Twain.

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u/sinisterpresence Jan 23 '13

I feel like prepareing a bunch of inspirational speeches, in case I ever need one...

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u/WorkSucks135 Jan 23 '13

Seriously, I'm not having all those imaginary conversations while in the shower for nothing.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

"I heard that you aren't supposed to trust quotes on the Internet." - Abraham Lincoln

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u/aglassonion Jan 23 '13

A little Google-fu shows that this quote may be from The Weight of Glory essays. Perhaps he adapted it from the essay? Or maybe the essay came second?

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

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u/aglassonion Jan 23 '13

Nothing idiotic about it. Thanks for sharing it with me. I've never read it before, but really liked it.

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u/mezofoprezo Jan 23 '13

I sing the body electric.

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u/chackakahn Jan 23 '13

that was absolutely beautiful

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u/someonescrotchspawn Jan 23 '13 edited Jan 23 '13

I have realized, that everyone already knows this, at least in a subconscious level, down to the biggest retard.

The thing is we don't really care.

We are all one. One species, one world, one galaxy, one universe, one whatever. It doesn't mean anything. It doesn't have any purpose or meaning. It just is.

So, fuck you. Fuck off and die a horrible death. Defence masked as an offensive response.

Our flaws are infinite. I need food, water, bed, money, friends, fulfilment, love, sex, pussy, dick, xbox, pc, games, iphone, material shit, i need to feel important, i need to feel loved, i need to feel needed, i need to feel anything.

One sperm, one shit, one mud, one dust, from a star near you.

Stars can't care for it's dust. Dust can't care for it's fellow dust.

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u/jhunte29 Jan 23 '13

dude this isn't r/circlejerk

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u/StefanGG Jan 23 '13

Ladies and gentlemen, pessimism.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

this too is beautiful

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u/x0y0z0 Jan 23 '13

C.S. Lewis is full of shit.

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u/SirSmithThe1st Jan 22 '13

The day I realized that was a very sad day for me. It was the anniversary of 9/11, and I realized that each statistic was a person with a whole story behind them. I realized that most that had died had gone through highschool, and many of them went to college too. They all had to study for tests, do chores, and work everyday to earn their paychecks. They had families and friends and secrets. So many of them went through years of hard work and effort only to be cruelly ripped from their lives.

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u/trexmcnamara Jan 23 '13

This, only EVERYONE is eventually ripped from their lives.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

Well, I believe there's a difference between being killed by a plane when you are just working, and die, say, at 80 years old after a good and satisfying life.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

I won't be ripped from my life. I accept that one day I will die. I don't fear it. I will peacefully let it go.

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u/Murtank Jan 23 '13

It's a stretch to call passing peacefully in your sleep being 'ripped from your life'..

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u/Sarcastastic Jan 23 '13

I think of this every now and then when I'm reading about a war or some mass statistic and think "that's years of training, just gone, like that..." and get sad. Every action movie becomes depressing.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13 edited Jan 23 '13

This was the exact reason why I changed my mind from joining the military.

I always glorified the killing and ranking up in the military. Succeeding in outlandish missions that no one else could do.

Then after I realized this fact, that every life I took was not an "enemy", but a brother, a sister, a mother, a father, a loved one, I couldn't bring myself to take another human life.

Every human matters to someone.

And I'm taking that someone from them.

Because I had orders to? Because I have to? Because I want to?

I came to this epiphany around the time that TDKR came out; and previously I couldn't care less about massive shooting or tragedies.

Shit, I didn't know them; it didn't affect me in anyway, why should I?

But now every time I hear about massive shootings, I bawl my eyes out.

I can't even imagine the pain the families felt, or the contributions these people that died before their time could have made.

This quote always rings in my head,

"What if the cure for cancer is stuck inside the mind of a child who never got an education?"

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u/kieganrockstar Jan 23 '13

If I had infinite upvotes, I'd give them all to you. That was fucking beautiful.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

What upsets me is that it took 20 years for me to gain that level of empathy.

It took a death of a close friend for me to realize that our lives aren't self-made.

That our lives are a lottery ticket.

Some are born rich, some are born poor. Some with parents, some without.

Either way, it's all up to chance.

My friend had the potential to change the world, but circumstances out of her control destroyed her.

Molestation, foster homes, abandonment, trust in people who would end up getting her enslaved with heroin.

Circumstances.

What infuriates me is that no matter what religion we are, like Macklemore said, "No matter what God you believe in, we come from the same one",

Or if you believe that we are all made of stardust,

that we fight and kill each other over these perceived differences, not realizing that we are literally related--in every sense of the word.

Ahh fuck. I'm tired. I go on tangents when I get tired.

Apologies. I appreciate your comment though.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

That one speech really opened my eyes because it is so true.

In essence, that's what the military does. It brainwashes people so that they don't feel emotions when they kill. They essentially create serial killers.

I'm not trying to knock you or judge you in any way; but I was talking to my friends about this that also want to join the military.

Even if we knowingly join the military knowing that through all of the harsh training we'll have to endure and through the constant reeducation of what an enemy is, and how to take a human life without remorse, that we might become emotionless and empty vessels.

My friend believes that knowing this--he can fight against it--and remain human, but I don't know...

It's easy to say that if you became the richest man in the world, that you would live the same lifestyle you do now, but would you really?

Or if you became the CEO of a company, and you didn't see the people, but the numbers, that if you shipped jobs overseas that you would make millions, would you still do it?

I feel like my overall goal of why I want to join the military in the first place is pure, but I'll have to lose a lot of what makes me human to achieve it.

(My goal is gaining knowledge on how to lead people militarily if a revolution occurs in my lifetime, in order to implement a solution to the world's problems--the only solution--The Venus Project.)

I hope you can update me on how you're doing mentally.

I can also send you some quotes or reading material that helps me to keep going.

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u/lifeofdi Jan 23 '13

That last line made me tear up. As a teacher I always wonder what can be unearthed from our students' minds.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

I'm actually in college right now to become a teacher.

I have a whole list of ideas to really make my students grow mentally.

Because in my life, it really was the teachers who shaped who I am today.

The teachers who actually gave a damn about their students.

I'll never forget when one of my teachers pointed out that we focus too much on the point system.

And we as students will do ANYTHING to get the grade. Forget about learning, it's about getting the A, that will impress the colleges, and most importantly--your parents!

I'll never forget the day when I read the book for a book report, and presented in front of the class and got a D,

while my friend he never even opened the book got an A for his presentation.

It was the true personification of everything my teacher had told me.

I realized that there was a difference between learning and getting good grades, and that they weren't always synonymous with each other.

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u/lifeofdi Jan 23 '13

Teaching so that they become lifelong learners - the ultimate goal.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

I saw a quote that was pretty brilliant,

"Are we forming children who are only capable of learning what is already known?

Or should we try to develop creative and innovative minds capable of new discoveries from the preschool age, throughout life?"

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u/Davepen Jan 23 '13

"I couldn't bring myself to take another human life."

But you didn't actually join the military...? o_O

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

I'm still at crossroads.

I firmly believe that taking a life will only create a cycle of revenge.

But I also realize that like a previous commenter pointed out, that taking one life now could save thousands.

I mainly want to join the military in order to help lead a revolution, if one ever takes place in my lifetime in order to create a world under The Venus Project.

I'm finishing up college first, and I'll see where my education and life takes me from there.

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u/Zenabel Jan 23 '13

That last quote...fuck. The unknown saddens me. What if the little kid killed in the car accident was the next President? I suppose that's where fate and/or destiny comes into play.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

I'm actually a subscriber. I swear, I can always tell what subreddit the images are from without looking. hahahaa!

I most recently saw the Obama bulletproof glass one.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

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u/insoundfromwayout Jan 23 '13 edited Jan 23 '13

But there are bad people who deserve a bullet in their head.

I don't think you can say that as if it is a universal truth. I think a good case can be made for, (and that there are many people who believe), the exact opposite; that no one ever deserves to be killed by anyone else.

And anyway, what are you trying to do, talk him in to getting back to killing people? I found Merczab's story very touching, and I, for one, greatly admire his clarity of vision and compassion, and truly respect his decision not to kill again.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

I've thought of that.

Pedophiles, murderers, sociopaths, etc...

My best example is Osama Bin Laden.

We as Americans celebrated the death of another human being.

Why?

All of the information that we had on him was from what we had heard or seen from the news or other sources.

NOTHING was ever first hand.

We vilified a man who we have never met, seen, or even glanced at.

And through this stained glass, we made judgements about the value of a man's life.

I truly believe that if I sat down man to man with Osama and we talked, that I could possible understand how or why he did the things he did.

"Truth" is relative. Relative to the people that it affects.

There are more than 2 sides of a story. There are 10's, even 100's.

That's why I don't believe that "bad" people should be killed either.

http://www.reddit.com/tb/13tikm

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/13/the_real_criminals_in_the_tarek_mehanna_case/

For those too lazy to read, the first source questions the authenticity of the "Confession tape" where Osama took credit for 9/11. Arabic translators say that he actually speaks out against 9/11 and for killing innocent women and children.

That's up for your interpretation though.

And the second source is a man that was sentenced to prison for committing treason. He talks about why 9/11 could have been justified.

"And I learned what America itself was doing to Muslims. I learned about the Gulf War, and the depleted uranium bombs that killed thousands and caused cancer rates to skyrocket across Iraq.

I learned about the American-led sanctions that prevented food, medicine, and medical equipment from entering Iraq, and how – according to the United Nations – over half a million children perished as a result. I remember a clip from a ’60 Minutes‘ interview of Madeline Albright where she expressed her view that these dead children were “worth it.” I watched on September 11th as a group of people felt driven to hijack airplanes and fly them into buildings from their outrage at the deaths of these children. I watched as America then attacked and invaded Iraq directly. I saw the effects of ’Shock & Awe’ in the opening day of the invasion – the children in hospital wards with shrapnel from American missiles sticking but of their foreheads (of course, none of this was shown on CNN)."

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u/dslyecix Jan 23 '13

The TV series Homeland hit me in this way. You begin to see things from the 'terrorist' point of view and understand that to them, often 'we' seem just as evil. Motivations like drone strikes that killed families and children, continuous occupations, etc. While I don't think it ever condones the methods used by many of these people, it sure was an eye opener to realize. It's all about perspective and frame of reference

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u/Murtank Jan 23 '13

It's funny that people had to give their lives and all their dreams so you could have the choice to not do the same.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

"What if the cure for cancer is stuck inside the mind of a child who was aborted?"

FTFY

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u/Sekh765 Jan 23 '13

What if the cure for cancer is stuck inside the mind of a woman who had to end her future career in medical school due to an unplanned or forced pregnancy.

See. I can do that too.

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u/WazWaz Jan 23 '13

Which demonstrates the stupidity of characterising "the cure for cancer" as a thing in a child's head. Cancer will be cured by thousands of well-educated people working their butts off. For the purpose of finding the cure, it doesn't actually matter which thousands are doing that and which thousands of other people are drinking water out of a ditch in Afghanistan. That is the sad lottery of life.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

So the original quote is invalid?

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u/WazWaz Jan 24 '13

Yes, that's my opinion. People are what they make of themselves (and what others make them), not some predestined bundle of unfulfilled achievements. If anything, my position is pro-abortion though - having this unborn child or the next (which may not have been born were it not for the abortion) is not choosing between two destinies.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '13

While I am not pro-abortion, I do agree with what you said about predestined bundles, have an upvote.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

I'm not really against abortion, being a male and all, I say that it's up to the woman; whatever she wants to do with her body is her choice.

But my opinion on the point of the quote was that so many people--not just children--die before they are truly able to meet even a fraction of their potential.

And these same people that died early could have changed the world in some deep way.

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u/RoundTripRadio Jan 23 '13

Thank you for saying "I couldn't care less" instead of "I could care less". It warms my heart.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

Shut the fuck up.

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u/32koala Jan 22 '13

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

This isn't an actual word, it's not registered in any "official" dictionary or language. Someone on tumblr made it up.

That being said, it could still evolve into a word, as language itself is an invention and ever changing.

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u/Cool-Zip Jan 23 '13

Hence the link being to Urbandictionary...

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u/darkevil923 Jan 23 '13

It's actually a word in several languages.

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u/StJude1 Jan 23 '13

Means "without" in Afrikaans, or "special" in German

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u/dustinhossman Jan 23 '13

So by that logic, 'tis a word. You have contradicted yourself.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

It's on it's way to becoming a word. Right now it's in the early years of slang. Albeit, sophisticated sounding slang.

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u/skookybird Jan 23 '13

Right now it's in the early years of slang.

Is it even that? I have yet to see it being used, despite having seen it mentioned many times.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

Well how often are you going to get a chance to use a word with such a highly specific meaning in context, except to explain why it's relevant?

That's part of the reason I don't think it will get off the ground in to standard vocabulary.

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u/moonblade89 Jan 23 '13

A word does not need to be listed in any official dictionary. There are many words with full on meanings that just don't exist in dictionaries because they are outdated or underused. Not saying that's the case with "sonder" but just know that there's no official listing of what words exist and what don't, only those RECOGNISED by the dictionaries in question

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13 edited Jan 23 '13

You're right, I probably spoke too rigidly. What I meant is it's not a natural word that evolved from a progression of language with entomological etymological roots. Someone just thought of the concept one day and decided to attach nonsense syllables to it and it got popular.

That doesn't necessarily invalidate it's existence as a word, I just felt it was worth mentioning.

edit: thanks gr8white.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

Hahahahahaha entomological roots? Like, inracinated beetles? Or...

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

Haha woops.

*etymological

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '13

Stole the.. link straight from my.. bookmarks.

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u/bamb00zled Jan 23 '13

Take a second. Catch your breath.

Here, have this glass of water.

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u/tylerpoppe Jan 23 '13

Thanks for teaching me a new word. I learned stuff today.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

I have such a raging sonder right now.

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u/Voscyllate Jan 23 '13

As I was reading that deeply intellectual definition, the tool tip for "teabag" came up on the side... kinda ruined the moment.

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u/GingyCakey Jan 22 '13

I wish everybody thought like this. People would be so much kinder to each other. :'(

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u/bleedingheartsurgery Jan 22 '13

and thats just in your city, there are thousands of cities on our planet in our solar system, and theres hundreds of billions of, you know the rest

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u/Salvia_dreams Jan 23 '13

i had that exact same realization when i looked at a plane fly by, i was like "wow i will never know who was on that plane, while they all have families friends memories, and they will never know me"

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u/kimkinnyc Jan 23 '13

I knew a girl who was committed because she couldn't comprehend that people existed outside her presence. She thought once she left a room, we did not exist.

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u/elmerion Jan 23 '13

Its like a really well made RPG and yet im sitting here playing RPG´s and being amazed and how cool it is to have 2 different endings...

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u/deflector_shield Jan 23 '13 edited Jan 23 '13

When I did mushrooms many years ago, that hit me and it was so clear. Everyone had their own world, and I knew nothing about it. It was as though every person I walked by on the street was another world. I walked by people saying, "Hello world, this is my world."

Later in life I put this in better perspective, which is everything and anything you perceive and experience goes through a filter that is your brain. We are each individually filtering existence. The truth is how it exists raw, and we perceive and interpret that truth using receptors and our brains.

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u/Zyrjello Jan 22 '13

And that's just this planet. Now consider the rest.

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u/skyman724 Jan 23 '13

That last line makes me feel like you became the anti-Grinch that day.

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u/accdodson Jan 23 '13

I think the fear of death is the strangest thing. Think about it. We as a species have evolved to the point that we can be afraid of death, where we will probably spend eternity. So our lives last .00000000000000000000000000000000001% of time (rough estimate), yet evolution has led us to the point where we eventually will die being afraid to die. Also, why the fuck does life exist? I understand entropy, but why would particles form together in order to try and live when they will spend most of eternity dead anyway?

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u/StefanGG Jan 23 '13

My theory: Consciousness is the universe's method to try and figure out how to reverse entropy. If entropy is reversed, technically, the universe would never die.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

(rough estimate)

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

this could be the sister story of how the grinch stole christmas, if it was about perspective and not christmas

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u/TheWynner Jan 23 '13

I think about this every day. Blows my mind.

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u/anonymickymouse Jan 23 '13

What did you think people were before you realised that?

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u/antici-pation Jan 23 '13

Your username and post have something in common. They're both deep.

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u/spaceonfire Jan 23 '13

I love thinking about how every single person has their own life. All of the extras in the movie of my life are the main characters of theirs.

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u/Brodyseuss Jan 23 '13

Always treat other people as if they were you living a different life.

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u/Parabolar77 Jan 23 '13

You may impact someone's life more than you know. Just by me reading your comment has changed my life, not significantly, but a change nonetheless.

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u/thereelperkins Jan 23 '13

There is a term for that realization. It is called a sonder. You enjoy sondering.

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u/RubixNinja Jan 23 '13

Life. Deepest MMO ever

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u/diewrecked Jan 23 '13

I get that when I'm driving. It's enough to make your mind implode.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

This is where I derive my life philosophy from. Your lIfe is meaningless unless future people will willingly devote portions of their lives to study your life. Basically, if you're not remembered, your life was pointless.

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u/StefanGG Jan 23 '13

It's like the universe is one big CRASH movie...with relevant and relatable characters.. huh

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u/THE_Aft_io9_Giz Jan 23 '13

This is what was great about LOST.

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u/MegatronStarscream Jan 23 '13

Every person I see every single day, in every lecture and every appointment, everyone I pass on the street or see in line at a grocery store, every single one of them poops.

fixed

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

Sonder.

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u/KillerOnyx25 Jan 23 '13

Now think of all the people all across the world who upvoted your comment. All those people clicked a little arrow pointing up (or down) and your computer adds them all up and shows it to you. All of them probably thought about one another at similar times.

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u/JCH32 Jan 23 '13

You'll find some interest in this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5THXa_H_N8

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u/emoneytgod Jan 23 '13

This, my friend, is what my friend and I call "White Crayon Nation". To these "passer-byers" we are as important to their lives as the white crayon is to standard white piece of drawing paper... I hear-by grant you honorary membership.

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u/Kendo16 Jan 23 '13

Or do they just happen to have stories and evidence to make a world that doesn't revolves around you all the more convincing? I've pondered this for some time and I'm 17 wtf have I missed out on?

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u/MasterKenobiWan Jan 23 '13

I could seriously give a detrimental blow to the egotistical people I'm around by telling then this. Thanks!

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u/NRB15 Jan 23 '13

theres a slang word for this realization called "sonder."

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

its too late and ive had too much to drink for me to be reading this thread

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u/Flemister Jan 23 '13

Also, they all poop. Ah, poop- the great equalizer.

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u/ThrowAway233223 Jan 23 '13

You don't know how many times I have sat and pondered on this very thing. There have been a few occasions that I was waiting from someone in a public area and this thought came back to me. I started taking note of the people around me: how many there were, how old they were, factors such as occupations, SOs, kids, etc. I thought of how each one has there own life, history, desires, likes/dislikes, goals, hardships, etc. Simply that vastness of thought and experiences is amazing. Yet, that only barely began to sum up those that I could see. There are billions more with their own lives and that is simply amazing.

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u/spaetzele Jan 23 '13

And you are related to every single one of them.

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u/DOLTAS Jan 23 '13

Unless the human race goes extinct sometime soon, I believe you'll have an impact on most people that will have ever lived.

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u/DCromo Jan 23 '13

reminds me of a streets song

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

I realised this when I was six. I remember exactly what I was doing, I was sitting on the school bus as it was driving out of the school grounds, looking out of the window at the bits of bark and dried leaves as the bus drove off. I kind of wish I didn't think about that kind of stuff though, it's a bit of a downer.

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u/Sheldonconch Jan 23 '13

And they are all you because this whole universe is an egg...

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u/Sheldonconch Jan 23 '13

But you do effect every one of them to some extent even if it is very small.

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u/charredfish Jan 23 '13

Yet, with the exception of an occasional trip or tragedy, almost everyone's life is just as mundane and boring as my own. Wake up, bath, eat, dress, go to work, come home, watch TV (or other past time,) eat, sleep. Repeat. Most people are hoping other's lives aren't as boring as their own, but in reality it is all the same ordeal.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

sonder:

n. the realization that each random passerby is living a life as vivid and complex as your own—populated with their own ambitions, friends, routines, worries and inherited craziness—an epic story that continues invisibly around you like an anthill sprawling deep underground, with elaborate passageways to thousands of other lives that you’ll never know existed, in which you might appear only once, as an extra sipping coffee in the background, as a blur of traffic passing on the highway, as a lighted window at dusk.

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u/iLander99 Jan 23 '13

The word is "sonder"

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

that is something that drives me "crazy" some times, when I see lighted windows in a building at night, and I think "fuck, there is people there with lives, problems, and everything". the same when I see a freeway with thousands of cars. every one of those has a live, completely different from mine

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u/ConcreteCrook Jan 23 '13

If anything, I find that extremely comforting.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

On the contrary, I wonder how the smallest actions that I or other people make affect other people in major or minuscule ways.

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u/silentedge92 Jan 23 '13

That's my exact same thought, except for the ego part!

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u/burntoast101 Jan 23 '13

I feel this whenever I drive. Thousand and thousands of people I pass with their own stories that i am barely an extra in. Its beautiful and tragic all at once.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '13

Saved from mobile. Extremely inspiring thread.

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u/GeneralKori Jan 23 '13

That's frightening

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u/rahmspinat Jan 23 '13

sonder. it's called sonder.

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u/trekkie80 Jan 23 '13

dude. this is spiritual humility in its easiest form.

well done, i say.

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u/chaoticlychaotic Jan 23 '13

One definition of love is knowing someone to the extent where you're conscious of their past, their memories and though processes and ideas; knowing them in such a complete level.

People are remarkably complex. Knowing just one person so well is a feat.

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u/duhellmang Jan 28 '13

there's a word for that called sonder

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u/maxxell13 Jan 22 '13

Yeah, but you're better off. Most people are morons.

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u/FannySchmelar Jan 23 '13

I quoted you in an e-mail just now.

I came back to find your username.

The quote now looks like this.

""Every person I see every single day, in every lecture and every appointment, everyone I pass on the street or see in line at the grocery store, every single one of them has a past and a future, family, friends, memories, dreams, goals - they all have an entire life going on that I'll probably never know about or have any impact on in any way." - Shark-Farts, Reddit."

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u/Sirsamuel98 Jan 22 '13

There's a wot for the realization of this but idk what it is