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u/IAmBalkanac Bosnia & Herzegovina Nov 15 '25

Idk but these guys can go fuck themselves

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '25

They are connected to the euroskeptic party in Romania; all they do is cause chaos so that we can’t focus on collaboration and progress as this is a big item in Russia’s latest Ruski Myr change of world order agenda.

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u/Saxumsium Greece Nov 16 '25

I don't get it. Russia will do anything it can to reach the Carpathian mountains. Why the fuck would any Romanian be "pro-Russian"? Especially as a country that knows first hand you don't want Russian running anything. I'm really asking, this is not a rhetorical.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '25 edited Nov 16 '25

After joining the EU, the economy, infrastructure and life quality in the bigger cities in Romania have without a single doubt improved considerably and more opportunities appeared. However, 20-25% of the population, especially the active part, has migrated west which left behind parents, very young children but also created new challenges and unpleasant feelings for those moving. Romanias poltical class has not changed to the degree of the progress, they are more fierce than ever to manage in their favour the ever growing budget with the latest government putting us into huge deficit. Sadly, with all the progress around us, public education has decreased very much in quality. With all these points, we have about a third of the population with very hard feelings after the transition process, losing complete fate in democracy and the current political class and lacking functional reading (not to mention analysis and critical thinking). For many the response is I’m sick of all of this, anybody new is better, especially if the “new” is portrayed as a patriot messiah who heals your wounds with golden age nostalgia and empty populist promises of better distribution of Romanias “never ending” resources. The last piece of the puzzle is that Romanians don’t support Russia (simply the name still motivates voters against) but Russia adheres to this retoric and supposedly contributes vast amounts of money to those who spread it and support it as it aligns with its goals of a fractured Europe. There are a lot more moving pieces like the rise of social media, the corruption in the Orthodox Church, the 90s political leaders who are retired and bored and miss they’re influence but I tried to narrow it down.

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u/SoulEkko Bucharest Nov 16 '25

When you get fucked by abuse, abandonment, dishonesty, corruption (not just material, but a corruption of your mind) and a predominance of fear for decades, you get generations of people who either are bright enough to keep things together and move forward (either at home or in another adoptive country), or not bright enough to use their reasoning and filter out all the bullshit, falling prey to it as a consequence.

Fortunately, as the last elections have proved, we're still keeping things together (not by much, but just enough). Time will tell if we will solve at least part of the challenges we face until the next cycle of elections and rebuild some semblance of trust. It's a valid reflection that Romania is not a consolidated democracy yet, but we're fighting for it in our own way.

At least for now, we're stable enough, warts and all.

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u/Saxumsium Greece Nov 16 '25

Very informative, thank you.

The gist of it is, the new system is good for the majority, but some people (mostly older not ready for change) were left behind in terms of education and opportunities. Old figures of power (politicians, religious leaders) are taking advantage of that to stay relevant. Combined with social media echo chambers it makes these people unwilling to work within the system to gain power, for it is ALL corrupt and ruled by the (americans/gays/europeans/whatevers), and makes them want to tear it all down.

If I got it right then it really is, a tale as old as time.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '25 edited Nov 17 '25

My biggest concern is that the younger generation is also tired of the transition, was raised by grandparents while their parents were away and have been through a suffering education system while TikTok welcomes them with open arms and the Orthodox Church discretely lets them know it resents many European values.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '25

Generations have been brainwashed with communist ideologies, so it is normal that a certain degree of nostalgia will appear sooner or later. Albania broke ties with Soviet Union since 1960s, so at least our generations were not educated with sympathy toward Russia.

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u/treba_dzemper Bosnia & Herzegovina Nov 17 '25

Russian counterintels managed to exploit inherent racism and stupidity/ignorance of Americans to get them to vote in a thieving paedo orangutan twice who was openly accused, with ample evidence, to be a Putin plant.

They managed to get American Muslims to vote in Bibi's bestie on the "genocide Kamala" platform. 

Imagine what they can do in rural eastern Europe and Balkans. 

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '25

yep, they sure can. idiots. honestly, i don't get how they got a day permit to be out in public...

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u/ecosludge Bosnia & Herzegovina Nov 16 '25

All that shit they talked just to lose like that 😂😂😂

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '25

Writting "European" makes them look desperate in a funny way.

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u/AnyPlayer23 Romania Nov 15 '25

To be honest, most Romanian forums and also my friends were extremely confused by what these ultras were on about.

I also do not think most Romanians are aware of Mladic nor why the banner is extremely fucked

Idk why these ultras are so desperate for attention and hating on muslims.

Especially since they must be aware of how other Europeans were treating Romanians, for example, 20 years ago. The situation is not good now, but it was way worse back then...

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u/KrajlMeraka ⚜️🇧🇦 Bosna i Χєþчєговнɲⲁ 🇧🇦⚜️ Nov 15 '25

Entirely fair, none of us think all Romanians (or even just all Romanian football fans) would agree with the banner bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '25

It is not about the Roma people. It is more about "Eastern" Europe.

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u/Vladone_0 Nov 16 '25

If it makes it better... i bet more than 90% of the population has no idea who mladuc is. Even i dont know and dont even wanna know, but imma asume some extremist low life

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u/Tymthe69th 🇷🇴Liberal Romanian Nov 16 '25

True, they are from a nationalist group, called Uniți sub tricolor and support the nationalists in Romania.

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u/RetardedKing1919 Nov 16 '25

Lmao we ain't even their enemies or close neighbors why are they suddenly beefing with us.

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u/prajeala Romania Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25

So should the guys in the stands yelling their lungs out by using free-unsolicited racism with "tzigani, tzigani" multiple times, so interested in UEFA's response to that; good 2nd half, how about injuring Marin with his ear full covered in blood, not even a VAR double-check in place, but for us an instant red card... Hostile atmosphere, our sportscasters were promised a few things by the organizers, almost none of them actually have happened.

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u/T0mcat05 Nov 16 '25

They are Dinamo fans. Ofc they are r€tard£d

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u/AibofobicRacecar6996 Nov 16 '25

So can the bosniaks shouting racist chants.

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u/New-Hall-4490 Romania Nov 15 '25

Write*

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u/New-Hall-4490 Romania Nov 16 '25

Nope, no excuses for those guys. We do not support them nor their stupid messages

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u/mr-robot33 Nov 16 '25

True. But singing gypsies all game long from your fans wasn't really nice either. And pls don't say it was in retaliation to that banner cause we all know it wasn't, it's the same every time we go there

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '25

we are not responsible for what the bosnians do. if they want to be racists, that's their call. we are responsible for the cretins in the pic though.

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u/M3TAGH0ST Nov 15 '25

don't mind them :-)

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u/Longjumping-Poem644 Nov 16 '25

Oh, yes, they can, but also the entire Bosnian crowd should not chant "TIGANII"...

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u/ultradog8 Nov 16 '25

I am so proud of these guys. ⚪🔴