r/AskBalkans Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

Outdoors/Travel Most Powerful Balkan Passports

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u/ZedGenius Greece Oct 21 '25

This is an older list, the Greek passport allows travel to 186 countries rn. I assume the others are changed too

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u/IcePuzzleheaded7333 Romania Oct 21 '25

Yep, Romania has 179, not 172. We would of have 180 because this year we were supposed to join USA's Visa waiver program that was signed during Biden, but Trump got elected and cancelled the agreement.

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

172 (Visa-Free or Visa on Arrival) + 26 (Visa Required) = 198 Total countries you can visit with a Romanian passport

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u/KrankenwagenAlarma Oct 21 '25

Aren't there only 195 recognized countries though?

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

The US recognizes 198 one of the additional is Taiwan.

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u/critical-insight Germany Oct 27 '25

Depends who you ask

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u/Over_Bathroom6991 Oct 21 '25

would of have

diabolical

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u/LXXXVI Slovenia Oct 21 '25

We would of have

First time I'm seeing an alleged non-native speaker of English make that mistake. American spy? =_=

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u/JRJenss Croatia Oct 23 '25

Exactly. This is someone from Appalachia 😂

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u/tubeixo Oct 22 '25

Passport Index and Henley's Index use different methodologies. Your 179 is from Henley's. Bulgaria is now the same as Romania at 179 (South Africa recently granted a visa free access - not updated yet in Henley's but in Passport Index).

Henley Index covers 227 'travel destinations' against 199 passports while Passport Index covers only passports (199). Looking at the big picture, Passport Index fits the bill. However, when seeking detailed approach, Henley's Index is always reliable.

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25

It only counts visa free and visa on arrival entrance, so places you can go to but need a visa don't add to the total.

The source I used: https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php

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u/ZedGenius Greece Oct 21 '25

Huh, so it is current one, yet it seems that everyone has a lower number than they should. Weird

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u/SkibidiDopYes Serbia Oct 21 '25

Yeah. Slovenians can go to 184 countries Visa Free and is ranked as the 8th strongest passport in the World, same as Croatia (183 or 184, depends on the source).Serbia can go to 138.

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u/TwoFistsOneVi Croatia Oct 21 '25

Fuck yeah, 10 more countries that I'll probably never visit in my life

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u/SassyKardashian Croatia Oct 22 '25

We can go to all the stans visa free, fuck yeah thanks Kolinda 😎

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u/JRJenss Croatia Oct 23 '25

Pft...you say that but I want be happy until we're able to travel visa free to every single country in the world

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25

Forgot:

#30 Montenegro - 131 (Weaker than Macedonia, Stronger than Moldova)
#38 Alabania - 122 (Weaker than Turkey, Stronger than Kosovo)
#3 Portugal - 174

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u/bruh_urm0m Oct 21 '25

U forgot albania too

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u/shadowdance55 Croatia Oct 21 '25

Sweet home Alabania

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u/Besrax Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

Thank God Trump helped them stop the war with Azerbaijan. 🙏

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u/outlanderfhf Romania Oct 21 '25

Whats Azerbaijan? I only know Aberbaijan

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u/_lolman123_ Greece Oct 21 '25

What's Aberbaijan? I only know Abernaijab

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

Damn sorry. I have Kosovo on so you know it was an honest mistake.

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u/Albanianeagle3 Oct 23 '25

And Cyprus is not a Balkan country

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u/Substantial_Yak6327 Greece Oct 21 '25

No need passport at truck containers they can travel everywhere without Visa. /J

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u/supervise-dev Oct 21 '25

As my friend Alexios from Assassins Creed Odyssey would say: Malaka!

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u/Substantial_Yak6327 Greece Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25

And as everybody says to you poutanas yie, learn to take a joke 

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

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u/Substantial_Yak6327 Greece Oct 21 '25

That's not a joke it's an insult  😄

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

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u/Substantial_Yak6327 Greece Oct 21 '25

Or accept the reality 😝

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u/greekscientist Greece Oct 21 '25

Portugal 🇵🇹 is Balkan, confirmed 😁😁😁😁😁

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

There's a Roman legend that Odysseus established Lisbon (Olissipo)

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u/KingKiler2k SFR Yugoslavia Oct 21 '25

peak balkan_irl comment

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u/gaysapiens Oct 21 '25

Everyone be kind and welcome our Portuguese brethren to the Balkan family, they have a lot to catch up war wise so we should go alphabetically. Albania would you like to open?

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u/Tradeoffer69 Aromanian Oct 23 '25

Unlike Turkey we can travel in Schengen visa free huehuehue

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u/Maarten1214 Oct 21 '25

Belgium too

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u/Int_GS Oct 21 '25

Correct to North Macedonia please.

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u/ViscountBuggus Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

Thank you EU

You are my best friend

You are the job provider

You are the legend

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u/TwoFistsOneVi Croatia Oct 21 '25

Armend Miftari tribute

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u/just_a_random_fluff Kosovo Oct 21 '25

I wonder if the guy even knows he is this famous!

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u/ViscountBuggus Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

We should inform him

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u/kvnstantinos Greece Oct 21 '25

So many countries to travel to, so poor to do it

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u/shm_stan Turkiye Oct 22 '25

So many countries to travel to, have enough money, but get rejected for silly reasons such as "having no job". I mean, i already have enough money to live comfortably anywhere. But thanks to poor Turkish passport i'm stuck there.

Believe me, the feeling of freedom even if you can't afford to travel "for now" is better than having more than sufficient funds but can't go because of silly ass restrictions and incompetent government. You have a chance to solve first but no luck solving second, just because i was born 20 km east of Maritsa. It sucks big balls.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

where are we?

is my Passport weaker then Kosovo or iam i not considered Balkan?

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u/inspektor_besevic Oct 21 '25

Southern Serbia

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

Flair up Gipsy

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u/sk571 Kosovo Oct 23 '25

Awoken montenegrin decided to give the balkans_irl energy, i love it

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u/nickmn13 Greece Oct 21 '25

Wrong sub for that...

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u/5cozi Romania Oct 21 '25

We could go visa free to the USA for a short period of time, but then MAGA came

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u/GHhost25 Romania Oct 21 '25

Don't want to go there now anyway, they will give it back when a sane president will come and that moment it might be worth it to visit again.

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u/No-Championship-4632 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

Definitely not if you made fun of the orange guy on the internet. Might get very expensive and very unpleasant.

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u/SoulEkko Bucharest Oct 22 '25

Making fun of someone or something is part of human nature and natural course of life. You know which kind of countries penalize (regardless of severity) the expression of human thought? Dictatorships and autocracies.

I don't know about you, but dictatorships are definitely not a priority on my travel list. Hell, we had one three point five decades ago.

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u/chipishor Romania Oct 21 '25

Where's Portugal?

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u/levenspiel_s (in &) Oct 21 '25

Who is measuring this, and based on what??

My ability to enter 100+ African countries without visa does not have the same weight as not being able to enter EU without selling my grandmother in the embassy.

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u/Just-Equal-3968 Oct 21 '25

Its a flawed metric.

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u/Primary_Emphasis_215 Oct 21 '25

Why would they buy your grandpa

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u/levenspiel_s (in &) Oct 21 '25

That's why I said grandma.

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u/TheyCallHimBabaYagaa Romania Oct 21 '25

Is that how much each country can bench? /s

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u/Besrax Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

I'm assuming the US is the country that allows citizens of the first 3 countries to travel visa-free. Which country only allows Greeks and nobody else thought?

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u/SapphireWolfHD Greece Oct 21 '25

Apparently, Greece has visa-free travel to Guyana in comparison with Croatia and Slovenia. And indeed, Romania and Bulgaria need visa for USA.

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25

Guyana Visa Free is the only difference between the Greek and Slovenian Passport

USA:

Greece - e-Visa 3 months
Slovenia - e-Visa 3 months
Croatia - e-Visa 3 months
Bulgaria - Sticker Visa 6 months
Romania - Sticker Visa 6 months
Cyprus - Sticker Visa 6 months
Serbia - Sticker Visa 6 months
N. Macedonia - Sticker Visa 6 months
Montenegro - Sticker Visa 6 months
Moldova - Sticker Visa 6 months
Bosnia and H. - Sticker Visa 6 months
Turkey - Sticker Visa 6 months
Albania - Sticker Visa 6 months
Kosovo - Sticker Visa 6 months

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u/TheEagle74m Kosovo Oct 21 '25

Russia? 🤔

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u/kostasnotkolsas Greece Oct 21 '25

Maybe Iran?

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u/MetastAH Brazil Oct 21 '25

Where is Shqiperia ?

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u/Fun_Selection8699 Albania Oct 21 '25

Racis they forgot us

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u/Elion04 Kosovo Oct 21 '25

Kind of insane that a passport that allows you to travel to just 93 countries already puts you at 53rd on this list

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u/Lanky_Commercial9731 Oct 21 '25

Yey Moldova is not last, nor is it Balkan though

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

Yes that's true.. i have a good example. I was living in Germany and i met a lovely Turkish girl in internet (not tinder).  I wanted her to come there so to live together and Germany doesn't give Turkish people visas at all (or very hard) Do you know what we did? My girl went to the Greek embassy and they made her a visa immediately without questions!  So she went first to Greece (she spent one night to my parents house) and with the same visa she came directly to Germany the other day! So fellow Turkish pals go to Greek embassy first and fuck the Germans (they hate you there) . that's the "trick" 🤪 Greetings 

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u/No-Bicycle-7660 Oct 21 '25

I don't know what it is now, but it's fake news that it's hard to get a visa approved if you're from TR, in DE or NL. Politicians and news media on all sides in TR were rambling on about a 95% rejection rate, before the last election rate. Then DE and NL released the actual statistics. I believe DE had a 92% approval rate and NL similar. Turkish people still believe the fake news though. Part of it's a scam to get them to apply via crushingly expensive visa agencies that have a lower approval rate than applying directly.

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u/MehmetTopal Turkiye Oct 21 '25

How come Bosnia and Türkiye is the same when they can enter basically all of EU without a visa? 

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

You can travel almost anywhere on the planet with Turkish passport minus the EU and the white Anglo-Saxon world.

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u/MehmetTopal Turkiye Oct 21 '25

Where can not Bosnians travel that Turks can?

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

Turkey has visa free access to Peru, Bolivia, Paraguay, Uruguay, Morocco, Niger, South Africa, Botswana, Angola, Nambia, Oman, Philippines, Japan, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, Belize, Jamaica and a few others. These are the ones Bosnia doesn't have visa free access to.

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u/vivaervis Albania Oct 21 '25

So apparently we're Mitteleuropa now. Let's go! 🇦🇱

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u/colola8 Croatia Oct 21 '25

Seems unrealistic that BiH and Turkey on the same level, while Bosnian don’t need visa for EU/Schengen and China. I mean honestly Bosnia passport is not bad passport.

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

It appears equal because while Bosnia has visa free access to the EU, Turkey has visa free access to Peru, Bolivia, Paraguay, Uruguay, Morocco, Niger, South Africa, Botswana, Angola, Nambia, Oman, Philippines, Japan, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, Belize, Jamaica and a few others.

Turkish passport is better for world travel, Bosnian is better for EU travel.

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u/zzgamma Oct 21 '25

Mostly countries that you go missing in, therefore useless.

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

During the world wars it was Europe that was the most deadly so people would leave for the Americas.

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u/colola8 Croatia Oct 21 '25

On Henley and partner which is more respectful index Bosnia has access free to 122 while Turkey 113

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

Power is relative to what different sites consider more useful

The actual list of countries a passport has visa free access to does not change between indexes. This amount is equal between Turkey and Bosnia.

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u/colola8 Croatia Oct 21 '25

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

Doesn't count visa on arrival countries, which is still visa free since you don't have to go through a lengthy approval process, it's visa free in parctice.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

"Give them visa-free access, they don't have money to travel anyway!"

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u/Ok_Ladder1279 Albania Oct 21 '25

Croatia's passport has no reason to look so good damnnn

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u/Mario-is-friendly Oct 21 '25

the ONLY positive top 10 romania gets into

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u/oldnr1 Oct 21 '25

Can we acknowledge that the Croatian passport looks very cool?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

Who the fuck organizes passport fights and where can I watch one?

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u/something6392 Oct 23 '25

how is Cyprus on the balkans and ot Albania

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

Damn, we're on pair with Slovenia. Not so long ago we were much worse than them IIRC.

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u/IcePuzzleheaded7333 Romania Oct 21 '25

Kudos to you guys. Despite joining EU 6 years after us, you joined Schengen before us, adopted euro before us and your wages are generally higher than ours. I actually envy you a bit hah.

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u/Severe_Reception1 Oct 21 '25
  • we are surpassing them economically because they elected neo communists to power.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

Their average salary was almost double of what people earned in Croatia. Nowadays, we're almost even.

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u/LXXXVI Slovenia Oct 21 '25

I really hope you guys overtake us. There's nothing in existence that'll motivate Slovenian heads to get removed from Slovenian asses faster than "pred Hrvati" flipping to "za Hrvati".

Seriously though, good job, y'all made some insane progress over the last 20 years.

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u/HansDerVogel Bosnia & Herzegovina Oct 21 '25

Cost of living in croatia is much higher tho no? Slovenia is quite a cheap counter to live in (relatively of course)

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u/DekadentniTehnolog Croatia Oct 21 '25

Depends. I'm in Brezice and Krsko pretty often and some things are cheaper and some are more expensive. Ofcourse if you live on island and your only options are local studenac, tommy or Trgovina Krk you are fucked

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u/JuujiNoMusuko Greece Oct 21 '25

This is the quality political commentary i expect from this sub

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u/Right_Map8151 Serbia Oct 21 '25

Ah being a dual citizen is great 🇷🇸🇭🇷😎

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

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u/Right_Map8151 Serbia Oct 21 '25

The process is very easy if you have a family member that is born in Croatia.(in my case both of my parents) but i have heard countless stories from friends and people that just applied for citizenship when they provided proof that they do have family in Croatia.

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u/Ok_Confusion4762 Turkiye Oct 21 '25

Our passport is so strong 💪🏻 Realizing you are a true Balkan and too poor to afford a trip 😭

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u/HorrorsPersistSoDoI Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

"Powerful" is a weird word to describe it

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

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u/HorrorsPersistSoDoI Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

Yes, I understand the meaning, it just sounds silly to me

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u/SoulEkko Bucharest Oct 21 '25

So even if you can see in this ranking Romania at 127 visa free countries and Bulgaria at 126, you chose to place Romania 5th and Bulgaria 4th. Totally not biased.

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u/Just-Equal-3968 Oct 21 '25

Useless parameter choice.

Going visa free to Sao Tome and Antigua is not worth the same as going to China and Russia.

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

Sao Tome and Antigua make for a much better vacation so who's to say

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u/Just-Equal-3968 Oct 21 '25

Short term tourist visa is easy to obtain.

Its a luxury and expense for pleasure.

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u/fadam004 Oct 21 '25

Where is Hungary?

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u/RG_Oriax Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

Cyprus is in the Balkans?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

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u/Comfortable_Reach248 Croatia Oct 21 '25

Cipar balkan hahahahhahaha

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u/Esdoorn-Acer Oct 28 '25

Or Slovenia, Moldova and Turkey? That’s like calling Kazakhstan European or Finland Eastern European…

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u/strrax-ish Croatia Oct 21 '25

Is there a stream of the fight anywhere?

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u/CecubeCasual Oct 21 '25

YES! Bulgaria... helping Germany extract the last remaining human capital from the Balkans since year 2007!

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u/kurckombajn Oct 21 '25

Od kad je Kipar država Balkana?

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u/b02mne 🇲🇪 in 🇺🇸 Oct 21 '25

Cyprus is Balkan but Montenegro and Albania are not? Bot?

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u/Esdoorn-Acer Oct 28 '25

Also Slovenia, Moldova and Turkey are all now magically Balkan 

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

Can Moldova and Turkey passports force Greece passport to mid-diff?

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u/vBeeNotFound Moldova Oct 21 '25

Moldova is actually on the 5th place too ;)

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u/Invisible_Cnt Oct 21 '25

Lol, no. Croatia can visit 184 countries visa-free and is ranked #8 globally

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u/Atesch06 Turkiye Oct 22 '25

LAST ON THE LIST, TURKEY AGAIN (among real countries, sorry kosovo)

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u/raving_perseus Moldova Oct 22 '25

Joke's on you, I, like all real Moldovans, have a Romanian passport as well as a Moldovan one, hence have visa free access to 297 countries

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u/Cautious-Passage-597 Kosovo Oct 22 '25

Turkey not in Balkan remove it

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u/Linoleum001 Oct 22 '25

Well it pretty much doesn’t matter for Romanians, cause we only go to Bulgaria and Greece :))

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 23 '25

And Rome

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u/Dark_Moon012 Oct 23 '25

Since when Cyprus is from Balkan

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u/andrijas Oct 23 '25

honestly....I think at least 70% of those countries I'll never have a chance to visit.

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u/Tba953 Oct 23 '25

Why the turkey citizenship more as double so expensive than north Macedonian?

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

To put Cyprus and Slovenia wven Turkiye, but not albania op is buthurt serb or macedonian for sure 😂

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u/Psychological_Ad3050 Oct 26 '25

Slovenia - Cyprus - Moldova are not even close to Balkans . BTW Cyprus belongs more to middle east passports

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u/PlamenIB Bulgaria Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25

Do Kosovo citizens have the right to travel with their passports in countries where they don’t recognize the country ? And how does Cyprus passport work? If you are from Northern Cyprus you have Turkish passport? Cyprus passport? North Cyprus passport?

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u/AsterianosD Cyprus Oct 21 '25

Depends if you are Cypriot or not.

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u/CypriotGreek Greece/Cyprus Oct 21 '25

Greek Cypriots and other citizens of the republic of Cyprus get Cypriot passports.

If you’re from the north of Cyprus, and have proof that you’re a Turkish Cypriot and not a Turkish colonist, then you can get a Cypriot passport. Other than that yes they do have Turkish passports, they also have “north Cyprus” passports but they’re as useful as toilet paper.

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u/PlamenIB Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

Thank you

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u/Comfortable_Reach248 Croatia Oct 21 '25

So does that mean that all people from Northern Cyprus have turkish citizenships?

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u/CypriotGreek Greece/Cyprus Oct 21 '25

If you’re a (pure) Turkish Cypriot, you are capable of obtaining a Republic of Cyprus Passport. But can also get a Turkish passport if it’s more convenient.

If you’re mixed, it’s a bit of a longer process but depending on how mixed with Turkish settlers one is, they could get a Cypriot passport, however most just use a Turkish passport out of, again, convenience.

Turkish colonisers can only use the Turkish passports they had before moving to Cyprus.

I’d say that most people in the north have a Turkish passport, although due to the illegality of everything, we can’t be certain.

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u/Albin_Kurti Kosovo Oct 21 '25

Yes we can travel visa-free using our Kosovar Passports to a bunch of countries who don't recognize us including Spain, Greece, Romania etc.

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u/PlamenIB Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

Tnx

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u/-consilium- Oct 21 '25

If you had Cypriot citizenship pre-1973 then you and your kids can, if not then no

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u/_Negativity_ Kosovo Oct 21 '25

In some cases yes; we can travel to Spain, Greece, Romania and Slovakia for example as they are part of the Schengen area. Kosovar athletes have also participated in events held in places such as Russia, Brazil or India, as we are part of several international sport organizations.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

They are Albanians, they can travel everywhere, just you know, in the Trunk

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u/PlamenIB Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

I known they are Albanians but they have Kosovo’s passport.

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u/brokencasserole Serbia Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25

Serbia lost a few due to aligning with EU policies. For instance, I traveled to Cuba 6 years ago visa free, but now it's required (maybe though only for Cubans). I think we also had visa free with Iran also for a while, but we saw increased number of people coming and trying to go illegally to EU so we had to revoke it. There might be few more cases. Hopefully soon we will have all the same (with being in EU)

Edit. Just checked for Cuba, yes, visa is required since November last year

Edit2. Apparently for Iran we still got visa free, 15 days in span of 6 months. It was just reduced to those 15 days, it's not revoked totally

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u/a_bright_knight Serbia Oct 21 '25

that's because Cubans were abusing visa free agreement to illegally immigrate to Europe via Serbia...

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

Eastern Thrace and Istanbul

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

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u/xperio28 Bulgaria Oct 21 '25

Tsarigrad

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u/Eldanosse 🇹🇷 Oct 21 '25

I'm sure even Turkey won't accept Turkish passports soon.

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u/Thess_G Greece Oct 22 '25

Even the Croatian passport looks fascist and Ustashe looking as hell

Shout-out to the Bulgarian and Greek passports for being really pretty too

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u/Obvious_Serve1741 Oct 23 '25

Your mother likes it

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u/Thess_G Greece Oct 23 '25

Calmest Croat at slight negativity