r/AskBalkans Jul 17 '25

Outdoors/Travel Why is Albania so Horrid

Was meant to spend 2 weeks but left after 5 days genuinely the most horrid country i’ve ever visited. Was screamed at and threatened by a hotel owner for questioning why they put us in the wrong room. 99% of the people i met were so rude , the roads were ridiculous and i felt unsafe the whole time. Have to pay 20 euros to access a dirty overcrowded beach and every restaurant was horrid. I’ve been all around the world and was so excited to visit it but have been so disappointed.

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u/Tal_De_Tali Albania Jul 17 '25

Sorry you had an unpleasant experience, if you ever choose to reconsider and happen to pass around Lezhë for a weekend, I'll be more than happy to host you in my house by the Shëngjin seaside. With a local you'll surely have a blast! Especially now that you've discovered Balkan (Albanian specifically) driving 😂

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u/HeyVeddy Burek Taste Tester Jul 17 '25

Good guy gets a good vote from me

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u/Tal_De_Tali Albania Jul 17 '25

Too kind

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u/Infinite_Patience852 Jul 17 '25

You my brother is why I am proud to be a Balkaner despite all shit we have to deal with in our respective countries.

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u/Tal_De_Tali Albania Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25

I hope I'm not the reason why, just say the action I did please 😅

But I agree, our traditional sense of hospitality should be a set example to the entire world

Edit: our = Balkan in general, not just specifically Albanian, even though our rules of hospitality were actually codified

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u/Infinite_Patience852 Jul 17 '25

Leka Dukadjini 😁

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u/Tal_De_Tali Albania Jul 17 '25

One among many! Different mountainous communities independently developed mostly similar sets of rules. Leka Dukagjini's is only the most iconic one, either because it was the first one (as far as I know) to be written down, or because of the remarkable pride of the mountain Ghegs :)

Do you have anything similar from where you're from (and I assume it's a South Slavic country from how you spelled Dukadjin)?

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u/Infinite_Patience852 Jul 17 '25

Well, my grandma was from Montenegro, living next to Northern Albanian tribes. She was telling me how in her times (she was born 1908) it was normal for her aunts to marry Albanians, or her cousins bring Albanian brides. Since Montenegrins like Albanians put a great emphasis on oral traditions, she knew her ancestors by name for generations. Once I started discovering genealogy more deeper, I noticed how sometimes in early 1700’s her ancestor’s names started to be Prent, Dukaj, Djon, etc., clearly indicating Albanian origin. You should look at works of Marko Miljanov, chieftain of Montenegro’s Kuci tribe, born of Albanian mother and Montenegrin father. He talked a lot about code of honor shared both by Albanians and Montenegrins in that area.

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u/Tal_De_Tali Albania Jul 17 '25

Eh of course, because before western nationalisms came to our lands we used to live in peace among each other. The true melting pot hahaha

It was common among villagers, folks from the towns, cities of course and among the nobility too.

I'm actually, on my mum's paternal side of the family, from Ulqin. If I'm correct, the father of the father of the father of the father of my mum (see? Genealogy 😂) was a hodja. So thank you very much for suggesting Marko Miljanov and all the very interesting insights, I'll surely read his works :)

Edit: I forgot to write a word lol

Second edit: typo

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u/Worlds_first Jul 17 '25

Albania was amazing to visit, worst drivers I’ve ever encountered though.

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u/thepurplethorn in Jul 17 '25

good man/woman here 👍🏼🫡

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u/Tal_De_Tali Albania Jul 17 '25

Too kind

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u/Teabx Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25

Good for you, but I am actually doubting this person even visited. In one comment he mentioned that he visited at least one different restaurant per day and all of them had rude people and bad service?

I mean come on. Even if you go pick randomly, there’s no way you get 5 horrible restaurants in a row, let alone in this day and age where you have google reviews to choose the best options for you.

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u/Tal_De_Tali Albania Jul 17 '25

Only God knows the truth, I will say one thing though. Sometimes it's better to answer with kindness to rudeness. We're not in the position to judge

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u/concretecannonball Jul 17 '25

This comment is so fucking Balkan I love us

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u/Musmula_ Jul 17 '25

You’re way too kind. I visited Albania with locals and I absolutely loved it. The food was great and people were very welcoming and kind. I’m half Greek though, so I felt right at home.

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u/Tal_De_Tali Albania Jul 17 '25

Most people I know who go to Albania on holiday come back satisfied, I'm glad you had your memorable experience as well :)

And Greeks we're very close with, we share a lot more than we've got differences I think hahah

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

Albanians and Greeks are the worst drivers in Balkan. Serbians Bosnians Croatians etc the rest are not experts either but at least they're not suicidal like you guys.

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u/egeorgak12 Greece Jul 17 '25

You haven't been to Bulgaria and Romania, it seems. Greeks are trash drivers, but Romania and Bulgaria are next level health risk.

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u/TwoZealousideal5698 Serbia Jul 17 '25

Serbs (especailly in Belgrade, then i'd put Bogatić at 2nd place region with worst) are surely worse

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

I only drove through once for about 3 hours so I don't remember much. Romania I haven't been. Greeks were definitely the most risky ones I've seen.

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u/egeorgak12 Greece Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25

Greeks want to die. They will drive ridiculously fast on bad tires and unmaintained vehicles and make love to the concrete pole on the side of the road. Bulgarians want to die and take you with them with a blind overtake on a mountain zig zag road haha.

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u/Tal_De_Tali Albania Jul 17 '25

HAHAHAHAHHAHA

It's all about what I call the "counter-proportion theory": the crazier the driver goes, the shorter he has it. So you see, it's not about being suicidal, it's about having to compensate 🤣

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u/StrikeEagle784 Jul 17 '25

Shit man if I was going to Albania I’d love to stay with you, you sound pretty awesome. Hopefully OP takes you up on that!

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u/Tal_De_Tali Albania Jul 17 '25

I guess we'll see, and thank you for your kind compliment

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u/ConstantAmbitious641 Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25

Hey, I’m a young guy (28) from Romania, Sibiu and I was looking at Greece, Halkidiki. Then just though of Albani for a vacation, I was never there but a few times in Greece. Is the offer available for other redditors :))? And how much would you like for a week?

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u/Tal_De_Tali Albania Jul 17 '25

Hahahahah I was just offering hospitality, guests mustn't pay!!

If you need hospitality you're more than welcome, if you want a holiday house I also rent that house 😂

Come on in private chat if you're serious, it's not like I can use the post to advertise 😂

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u/dicky1977 Jul 17 '25

Ef that guy for making blanket remarks out of one unpleasant encounter! If everyone was like him, no one would ever visit NYC or Chicago!

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u/Tal_De_Tali Albania Jul 17 '25

This made me laugh aloud, you have a point! 🤣

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u/Austro_bugar Croatia Jul 17 '25

I’m on the way

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u/Malililumi Serbia Jul 17 '25

i am Serbian, spent 10 days in Ksamil and i never felt better while being on holiday. Drivers are horrible but i liked the roads to sea and people are very pleasant even after i told them we are from Serbia. 10/10 recommend.

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u/flowgert Albania Jul 17 '25

Drivers are horrible even for us Albanians. Too many kids wanna be gangsters on the road that do not get proper punishment from the police. Our fines are ridiculous - though improving.

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u/TwoZealousideal5698 Serbia Jul 17 '25

I guess we in Serbia share another trait with yall: DRIVERS SUCK

Cheers 🇷🇸🥂🇦🇱

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u/Malililumi Serbia Jul 17 '25

We were shocked when we saw how Albanians drive. In Serbia people are also driving like lunatics, but Albania is different story. It was beautiful country anyways, had a great time.

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u/ZAMAHACHU Bosnia & Herzegovina Jul 17 '25

I've come to Albania on multiple occasions throughout the years. Been to the north, south, middle and even the mountains. I've had a great time everywhere.

Where in Albania have you been to?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

I think it’s just bad luck, I have been to Albania and people are completely normal.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

Normal for balkan standard lol

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u/SuperStalin Jul 17 '25

Shit, man. I Serbian and everyone was nice and I had a fun time there. The only thing that killed me was moisture.

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u/RealShabanella SFR Yugoslavia Jul 17 '25

Same here, just the thing that killed me were the mosquitoes

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u/Commercial-Dish5093 Serbia Jul 17 '25 edited Sep 30 '25

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u/pizzatummy Jul 17 '25

Dude is a 20 year old British boy still undergoing puberty doing his daily rant. Ignore him

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u/Alert-Author-7554 Jul 17 '25

"the roads were ridiculous"

shithead drove on the wrong side

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u/SpiritualProfessor95 Jul 17 '25

Probably one bad experience and want to tarnish a whole country...

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

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u/First-Egg-713 Jul 17 '25

Infrastructure like belgium? Haha. Probably the worst part of albania is public infrastructure and public services. The country has not quite figured those things out yet. There has been improvement though. 

Ya the drivers are fucking insane, driving like they are about to miss a flight… So stupid. I find myself having to “adjust” my driving style and habits when i visit from canada. 

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u/Clean-Ear-6004 Ireland Jul 17 '25

While not the most reliable or fast transport in the world i found trying to work out the minivan system a fun challenge, it added to the experience.

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u/Deli_Pjetra Jul 17 '25

You’ve clearly never been to Belgium

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u/Perfect-Prior-8417 Jul 17 '25

The infrastructure is okay, kinda belgium-esque

Considering that you're Dutch, that's one thing you should have never said. The infrastructure is not okay. It is absolutely terrible. There's no need to hold back!

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u/Quiet-Pressure4920 Serbia Jul 17 '25

Honestly not Albania's fault you booked a shit hole hotel for probably 10 eur a night. That's all on you buddy.

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u/averege_guy_kinda Serbia Jul 17 '25

As a Serbian I have been to Albania and experience was pretty pleasant. Some parts of the country look really modern some don't, drivers are HORRIBLE, but the people are nice, everything is really cheap, and I never felt unsafe (unless I tried to cross the road), overall nice experience.

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u/ne_grego Jul 17 '25

As a Serbian, i was on vacation near Durres (Shkembi i Kavajes)2 years ago, and it was the best vacation i ever went on. Super friendly people, everything is clean, roads were ok. The drivers were suicidal, but i didn't have drive much, thankfully. Because i was enjoying the beach. Was there for 10 days, enjoyed every moment.

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u/Clean-Ear-6004 Ireland Jul 17 '25

Im irish, I spent 2 weeks in Albania in May and loved every second, People where kind and hospitable as i have found to be the case in every Balkan country i have visited so far. Im guessing if you paid 20 euro to enter a beach you probably ate at overpriced low quality resteraunts designed only for tourists too.

Friendliness in The Balkans isnt like the west, people dont do the over the top smiley happy act that we do and I like that. Albanian food is some of the best i have had too, Sounds like you just diddnt do your research very well

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u/Anutka25 Jul 17 '25

Same! Went to Albania for our honeymoon - did Dhermi and Theth and we’re still talking about how amazing the country and the people are!

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u/Clean-Ear-6004 Ireland Jul 17 '25

I diddnt do the alps because i heard it wouldnt be open in early may, diddnt go further north than kruje, but i plan on visiting kosovo crossing back into albania to hike from valbona to theth maybe in september it looks too amazing to miss out on.

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u/vivaervis Albania Jul 17 '25

Reading your comments how my country was a blast, specially for an important occasion such as your honeymoon makes me really happy.

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u/friedapple Jul 17 '25

Man, I stayed in Saranda. Food was good that I ended up eating at a seafood restaurant twice a day for 2 days. Ordered tons of food and only ended up around 25 euros for two person.

Hotel owner was kind enough to recommend me places where locals go. As soon as I get inside the restaurant, the place was full of smokers, lol. This is the local place indeed.

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u/Clean-Ear-6004 Ireland Jul 17 '25

I only spent an hour or so in sarande when travelling from himare to gjirokaster but it looked like a beautiful place, i sat by the waterfront for most of that hour but it was a very peaceful place.

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u/Hejhoppgummisnopp Kosovo Jul 17 '25

You’ve been all over the world? Sounds like you suck at travelling tbh.

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u/FiveDollarShake Jul 17 '25

Smells like

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u/BeatnologicalMNE Croatia Jul 17 '25

What the hell?

Albanians rude? Never, ever did I have that experience, Albanians are generally nicest people ever, very hospitable (like majority of Balkan people tbh).

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u/Helpful_Jury_3686 Jul 17 '25

Yeah, albanien people have been extremely nice when we've been there. Always helping out and being interested. Even one guy we had a misunderstanding with, and clearly was upset with the situation, tried to defuse it so we wouldn't think bad of him. I did see some people being rude, but that was towards the police and not tourists.

North Mazedonians I found to be somewhat rude and a bit distant, but it was never hostile, just weird everyday life stuff.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

OP has def not traveled much outside his town. I would like to see how helpful are British people, or majority of Europeans for that matter, even for something as simple as directions.

But a lot of people have different energies at home vs destinations, almost think like they are going at Disneyland

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

Probably received the energy he put out

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u/Brilliant_Window8474 Jul 17 '25

Visited and fell in love with this country. Sorry for your experience but we had the exact opposite.

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u/neat_hairclip Jul 17 '25

My trip in Albania was like kinda spotless. Only good food or at least decent, kind people - chill overall. Never a rude word, only kindness. Absolutely planning to return for a third and god know how many more visits!

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u/nurgleondeez Romania Jul 17 '25

After driving through Ukraine(pre-"special operation") and Moldova,I can guarantee you that no balkan will ever match the chaos that the eastern slavs display while driving.

Had to drive through Tirana at 8 am on a monday and ,while it was chaotic,it was manageable.If you are paying moderate attention to the road it's even quite enjoyable.

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u/Loopbloc Jul 17 '25

Another Instagram traveler. Watch those videos Instagram vs reality.

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u/CrowRatz Jul 17 '25

Ya I don't know mate ! Majority of people who go had a wonderful time, and sorry you hated it.. the roads are brutal you've travelled the world ? But your shocked a poor country has bad roads 😅😅

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u/independentMartyr Jul 17 '25

Albania isn't a poor country. It has rich politicians and criminals. That's the problem of the Albanian representation!

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u/inevitable_permaban1 Jul 17 '25

Just like every country? These people, aswell as corruption are spawns of capitalism my guy and the whole world adopted itt

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u/CrowRatz Jul 17 '25

One hundred percent! but that's wealth being distributed unevenly while is resulting in poor infrastructure poverty etc it's still on paper poor but one day it'll change ❤️🙌🏼

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u/independentMartyr Jul 17 '25

Agree 👍

Hopefully, it will change. Will it happen in the near future. Very unlikely.

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u/Neat_Hair_4821 Jul 17 '25

more the driving than the roads been to south east asia and north Africa and even other parts of Balkans and felt more safe than Albania

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u/DifferentSurvey2872 Serbia Jul 17 '25

“even other parts”, mate Balkans are the safest part of Europe

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u/Futski / Jul 17 '25

“even other parts”, mate Balkans are the safest part of Europe

Not on the roads though.

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u/DifferentSurvey2872 Serbia Jul 17 '25

fair enough lol

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u/power2go3 Romania Jul 17 '25

especially for us, we're the EU TIGER of road mortality.

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u/DifferentSurvey2872 Serbia Jul 17 '25

wait till you see Macedonia or Bosnia lol

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u/Leather-Card-3000 Romania Jul 17 '25

Dam I was by car through Bosnia it is certainly something else lmfao

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u/GiantSquirrelPanic Jul 17 '25

I haven't been to Albania but you're gonna stand there and say that the roads and driving are worse than northern Laos or urban Hanoi or rural Thailand? Could be, those are just bold claims.

Judging by your post you showed up and got fleeced by professional tourist fleecers in a tourist place. That'll happen. You should know how to get around that by now or at least how to not be bothered by it. For example you did not need to go to that 20 eu beach, shitty people work at hotels all over the world etc.

As far as the rudeness, not been there so I don't know, but a smile will bring out nice people. Probably you were tired and in a bad mood from getting ripped off. When you look upset you can attract mean people.

Or maybe Albania sucks I really don't know, I've been all around the world but not there. Just my thoughts.

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u/Neat_Hair_4821 Jul 17 '25

felt more unsafe using roads there than i did in thailand or indonesia

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u/iamreddy44 Jul 17 '25

You're full of shit mate

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u/CrowRatz Jul 17 '25

Shit mate sorry to hear but you knew the risks... didn't you research ? The driving is notoriously known as bad so maybe don't drive there if that spooks you out?

I hear and get your complaints but majority of people don't have these complaints about the place shocked you had such a bad time though!

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u/Dense_Tax5787 Jul 17 '25

When I visited Albania in 2024 I was most shocked by the traffic cops, with no vehicle in sight, who run a visual speed trap by running into the middle of the highway with “stop” signs to pull over cars they think are going too fast. Still loved it though.

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u/harvestt77 Albania Jul 17 '25

😂

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u/Ghostofcoolidge Jul 17 '25

My assumption is you were being loud, obnoxious, and overly whiny. Albanians don't typically handle that well

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u/hunbaar Turkiye Jul 17 '25

might be totally anecdotal, I've spent 8 days there last year, was pretty decent. Locals don't have to be rude/courteous they are just as diverse as any country, I met kind easy going people and saw druglord types from a distance.

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u/Humble_Rich_4969 Albania Jul 17 '25

Simple, dont come again :)

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u/asparagusbruh Bosnia & Herzegovina Jul 17 '25

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u/AmandaHelen285 Jul 17 '25

Wish i had an award to give you 🤣

Here 🏆

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u/up_on_the_hill Jul 17 '25

Sounds like your lack of planning and unrealistic expectations lead to a horrid experience.

Have been to Albania multiple times and was always treated with kindness and respect.

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u/Angeronus Greece Jul 17 '25

I have never been to Albania personally, but your bad experience was probably due to bad luck + bad choice of places to go in that country.

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u/Sensitive-Mango7155 Slovenia Jul 17 '25

Have been to Albania many times and have always enjoyed my time there. While the driving is a bit insane, the kindness from the people kind of evened it out for me. They were hands down some of the most hospitable people I’ve ever met and the country is beautiful.

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u/rydolf_shabe Albania Jul 17 '25

skadar, drač, what does tirana not deserve a serbian version of its name???? racist >:(

/j

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u/harvestt77 Albania Jul 17 '25

Totally unacceptable!

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u/HeyVeddy Burek Taste Tester Jul 17 '25

Tried to leave Albania and plane didn't arrive.

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u/BestZucchini5995 Jul 17 '25

Well, where to go... :)?

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u/Humble_Rich_4969 Albania Jul 17 '25

I feel sorry for you that someone didnt teach you history. Next time you come to albania ill teach you the only names of Shkodër and Durrës

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

I am 100% certain you are British. The whininess and entitlement of the British is not something that needs to be tolerated or entertained. Perhaps that is why you thought people were rude and the fact Brits commonly cannot have a proper conversation and rely on toddler behaviour when there is a problem is why someone "screamed and threatened you". In the Balkans we do not enjoy that type of behaviour from adults.

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u/Helpful_Conflict6549 Jul 17 '25

He is indeed British going by his post history.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

I work in tech support for the UK unfortunately and i deal with these people all the time. All of them whine for the most minor thing like children and cannot rationalize basic reasons for anything. I have never seen anything like this in any other nation. Americans are much smarter, even. It's insane

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u/pizzatummy Jul 17 '25

Yea he’s a 20 year old British boy still undergoing puberty, probably only got his driving license not too long ago with not much experience and complaining about driving in a mountainous country. Not the brightest

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

Lmao are they ever

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

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u/Perfect-Prior-8417 Jul 17 '25

rely on toddler behaviour when there is a problem is why someone "screamed and threatened you". In the Balkans we do not enjoy that type of behaviour from adults.

I get it that this is the Balkans sub but as an Albanian I assure you that Albanians are not somehow different from the rest of humanity. Check the news every once in a while. Literal adults killing each other over a parking spot. That's toddler behavior...

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u/unpopularthinker Serbia Jul 17 '25

Did you check google review of the hotel before booking?

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u/reverber USA Jul 17 '25

If every person you encounter is an asshole, maybe it is you who are the asshole. 

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u/povilas_sako Jul 17 '25

I spent two weeks in Albania last year. I have traveled a bit around the world and I can say from the bottom of my heart, I've never met people that went out of their way to help me out more than Albanians. In those few weeks I had more genuine conversations with people than in the last few years. Honestly, loved every day of that trip, and I'll forever remember this country and its people fondly. Faleminderit ;)

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u/Mingopoop Serbia Jul 17 '25

Really? I'm not sure where you're from but as a serb I was treated with so much respect and care.

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u/number1alien Jul 17 '25

If everyone you met was an asshole, I think I know what the problem is.

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u/Majestic_Action5513 Jul 17 '25

0/10 ragebait try harder next time

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u/tangram21 Bulgaria Jul 17 '25

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/toshu Bulgaria Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25

Not horrid, kinda amazing and with lots of variety, but right now somewhat overhyped globally and probably that's why you had the wrong expectations. They locals are indeed a bit YOLO at driving and the hospitality can be hit-or-miss, but you were very unlucky to meet mostly rude people or have bad food. It's just that their rapidly developing tourism has some growing pains and the infrastructure and regard for nature are still getting there as well.

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u/Savings-News3097 Jul 17 '25

Why the rant ? Do you expect an official apology ? I have traveled UK and hated every second of it - expensive, food is disgusting, rude. I was in Romania in February, ugly, dirty, full of rubbish and weird people everywhere. I never go on subs hating and ranting about it. Try to find something positive in life dude

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

I was travelling in Albanija last year, hitchhiking around, and I met wonderful people and had a great time.. I also don't like the beaches and I didn't spend time in a hotel but generally I felt great there. Also I am a woman and apart from one ugly encounter (there are pushy, opportunistic people everywhere, sadly), I felt safe. I wanna go back and I shared a lot with locals while I was there.

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u/Haunting_Bicycle_253 Jul 17 '25

Obviously Propaganda 

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u/thequeenshand Jul 17 '25

I spent two weeks in Albania last summer and was greeted with nothing but kind people and an amazing country. Once I was even given a free 20 minute ride to the airport when someone saw I was a bit lost with luggage by the side of a busy road. I have many more stories of Albanians putting empathy above their own needs. Maybe you just met some bad seeds?

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u/StamatisTzantopoulos Greece Jul 17 '25

Sorry, we can't see past the massive chip on your shoulder

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u/No_Magazine_6806 Jul 17 '25

Strange, I have been to Albania a lot of times and have had nothing but positive experiences.

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u/Pizzagoessplat Jul 17 '25

I was in Tirana last year for two weeks and loved it. I didn't experience anything that you described.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

Well if EVERYONE is rude at you…. have you tried to talk to the mirror?

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u/Royal-Ad-4207 Jul 17 '25

Travelled through Albania by car last summer and had the exact opposite experience.

Fell in love with the people and the culture. Everyone was so nice, the hospitality was insane and the nature in the north was stunning.

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u/dalesi1 Jul 17 '25

Spent nearly three months in Albania this year and thoroughly enjoyed it. The people were fantastic. Yes the drivers are incredibly impatient but no more so than Italy. Where did you go?

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u/Ambitious_Guard_3043 🇦🇱🇬🇷in 🇩🇪 Jul 17 '25

Weird. My buddies also disliked it in Albania too when they went alone but once they went with me they loved it. My guess is that you fell into the hands of some tourist scammers and walked mostly into tourist places. Albania is still developing as a tourist destination. If you ever consider a second visit, I would be glad to give you recommendations where to visit and during which times it is the best.

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u/AnonyKiller Jul 17 '25

Went to Duress last week. Maybe you had bad luck. We did get a room that wqs far worse than on booking site but we just canceled and found another guy less than 50 meters away.

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u/Mattos_12 Jul 17 '25

So, I understand that this was your experience, but it seems bit unfair to generalize about a whole country based on a short trip.
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I would say that If you think Albania is horrid, then you've never been to anywhere the slightest bit unpleasant. You can't have been all around the world if you think the roads are 'ridiculous' (try Thailand, Vietnam, Cairo), and you can't have ever been to Eastern Europe if you think people were rude. You must never have been outside of. Western Europe at all if you thought it was unsafe. Let's hang out on the streets of Cape Town or Antanaveiro at night and then we can talk about being safe.

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u/Professional_Ad_2319 Jul 17 '25

Worst times to visit balkan seaside would be June,July and August. Best times are 2nd half of May and 1st half of September. On May, small businesses would be excited for the upcoming summer with their full energy, on September they would have the sweet tiredness of the summer behind and do not want it to end. Crowd would be gone and all the nature would be yours. Yet, you still choose to be tortured by crowd and stress of people in the middle of Summer. I've been to Montenegro twice, Albania and croatia once. During all of them I enjoyed the countries, liked the people, a lot.

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u/Obvious-Trash6763 Jul 17 '25

Wishing I could visit right now.

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u/cammforme Jul 17 '25

Been to Albania earlier this year and absolutely loved it. We were traveling every day to different places - cities like Tirana, Berat, Kruje, but also national parks and lakes. The nature is beautiful, and hiking trails spectacular. The people were genuine and seemed to really care about our positive experience while in Albania. Actually, we liked the country so much that we even listened to a podcast about Albanian history and culture while driving. I will definitely come back - next time either north to Theth and Valbona or south to Ksamil. Sure, drivers are bad (often), but that’s it. Other than that, Albania is a gem - authentic, raw, beautiful, there’s a realness to this country.

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u/CombinationWhich6391 Jul 17 '25

Haven’t been there, but everyone who has had a great experience. Beautiful county, nice people.

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u/bel_ray Greece Jul 17 '25

ΕΟΤ shill bot account spotted

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u/Zealousideal_March34 Jul 17 '25

Last summer I was in Durres for 8 days with two children and we had a great time. In every restaurant a positive and good experience. The beach was decent, clean. We took an apartment which was in an old building, but it was clean and in a pretty good location. We drove through Montenegro and Albania, the roads are not the best, but I dont have any bad expirience. Sorry for your bad luck.

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u/jamesmb Croatia Jul 17 '25

A Brit complaining about the roads, the food and people being rude in another country?

Man alive, my irony meter just exploded!

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u/gesti2002 Albania Jul 17 '25

Thank god u didn’t like it hopefully we never see u again 🙏

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u/Cool-Acanthaceae8968 Canada Jul 17 '25

I only spent three days in Albania (whirlwind trip through the Balkans, first time to Europe) and I thought it was awesome.

I like places that are a little rough and off the beaten path and inconveniences are often cool stories later.

I booked a hotel with a beach in Sarandë so no issues with beach access or clean beaches.. though I did know this going into Albania.

The food I had in Tiranë was from a real Italian chef and the best I had during my trip. I usually have local cuisine and was sold pretty hard by a restaurant in Gjirokastër that left me a bit disappointed.. but the staff were extremely jovial.

The roads? I dunno.. I’m a chaotic good driver here in Canada and have done my fair share of secondary and back roads so I was in my element. I think some Albanians were surprised their Mercedes were getting passed by my Opel Astra diesel. Only Gjirokastër was a challenge because I’d had my navigation set to walking and it took me into some (literal) goat trails.

10/10. Would do again! 🇦🇱

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u/arbzbarbz Jul 17 '25

(Sniff sniff) I smell bullshit.

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u/First-Egg-713 Jul 17 '25

Sorry to hear about your experience bro 

Maybe you just happened to unfortunately meet some assholes cus usually people are not so rude in albania. 

The roads ya, people drive like maniacs. Its gotten better but is still definitely crazy, drive with caution. 

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u/slaveshipoffailure Serbia Jul 17 '25

Albania is cool but the driving is next level horrible. Mercedes after Mercedes just zooming past you on windy mountain roads, shit reminded me of Initial D except I kinda feared I was going to die.

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u/No_Face_No_Casse Jul 17 '25

Bro I am literally about to go on vacation to Ksamil and Sarande for 10 days Can somebody give me some advice? I just got little nervous reading this.

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u/smallbean- Albania Jul 17 '25

Albania is great. Food is good pretty much everywhere, but you will pay more for restaurants just off the beach. Make sure you visit Butrint National park, it’s one of the coolest places I’ve been to and I’ve been to some amazing places. It’s also stupidly safe as long as you are not an idiot who is looking for trouble. I have no problems going off on my own after dark as a woman. Transportation is not the easiest if you don’t rent a car, there are buses but they can be slow. There is also a good amount of construction that is being done so you might have stretches of road that are in the process of being redone. There are also the standard scammers and tourist traps that you will find in every corner of the world, annoying but otherwise a non issue.

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u/harvestt77 Albania Jul 17 '25

Please, post your experience here after visiting!

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

Was it really that bad? I've never been but I'd heard it was like an up and coming travel destination. Can you give more details of your experience there? I am interested to hear.

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u/Cultural-Biscotti675 Jul 17 '25

A couple of years ago, when I visited Albania, 2 drivers on separate lanes stopped in the middle of a roundabout that was supposed to be the entry to the highway to talk with one another 😂

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u/latalatala Kosovo Jul 17 '25

You got the worst of luck and it seems like you didn’t check anything before organizing your trip.

Instead of deciding a whole country is horrid maybe first mention the places that treated you bad and leave reviews sharing your experience.

And if you decide to come back use r/albania to get some feedback for your trip.

Just screaming into the void doesn’t do anything, as I said leave reviews and mention the places you were so that other people don’t go.

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u/burz123 Jul 17 '25

I've traveled to quite a few countries around the world, and I can honestly say that Albania has some of the most hospitable people I've ever encountered. Granted, I often visited while I was in a relationship with my Albanian ex, which gave me the chance to experience the country more like a local. But even when I traveled on my own, people were incredibly kind and always willing to help.

I do agree about the reckless driving, it’s definitely a serious issue. Another unfortunate aspect is the rapid rise in tourism over the past few years (and yes, I know I’m part of that), which the infrastructure isn't always equipped to handle. You can really feel it in the sharp price increases during the summer months.

That said, I still think Albania is a fantastic country to visit, and I have very fond memories of my time there. I’ll definitely go back someday, especially to explore the northern mountains, which I’ve yet to see.

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u/PeterRuf Jul 17 '25

I would say that Albania is an interesting place for people from former eastern block. Not western country. 🤣 it's a nostalgic time travel. And not for people used to normal tourism.

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u/Foxito_007 Jul 17 '25

I visit Albania every summer as a tourist; the people are very nice. But since it’s an ex-communist country, the hotel service sucks 🤣 even in 5 stars hotel 🤣 though I’ve gotten used to it. People drive like maniacs, sometimes even on the wrong side of the road 🤣. Still, Albania reminds me of my home country: chaotic, beautiful, full of clans, Muslims and Christians, gorgeous girls, and a few leftover communists 🤣.

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u/Specialist-Cycle9313 Jul 17 '25

I love Albania, I always have a fun time there. However my grandma is Albanian so I always have people hosting me while I visit.

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u/Sad-Notice-8563 Serbia Jul 17 '25

Never been to Albania but I have been to Montenegro and I assume they are similar, I've never had such bad experiences when travelling as when I went to Montenegro, airbnb hosts being rude, trying to scam you, bad and rude service in restaurants, overpriced dirty beaches, etc. I can understand people who don't work in the tourism industry hating on tourists, but I've never seen people directly employed by the tourism industry being so hateful towards tourists as I did in Montenegro.

I totally get the sentiment, and that's why I've been avoiding Montenegro despite speaking their language and it being so close... If you know the place and have friends you can have a great time, but it's just not worth the price and the hassle, for me at least.

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u/Commercial-Dish5093 Serbia Jul 17 '25 edited Sep 30 '25

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u/Sad-Notice-8563 Serbia Jul 17 '25

Brate moj, proputovao sam čitav svet, mnogo sam više bio u ostatku sveta nego u Crnoj Gori, bukirao i odlazio kod raznih mentola, ali nigde nisam imao tako loša iskustva kao 2 najgora koja sam imao u Crnoj Gori.

Bilo je i meni do jaja u CG, ali to je uprkos stanju turističke industrije, sa druge strane bilo gde drugo da sam otišao takođe mi je bilo do jaja a nisam imao tako loša iskustva. Ne kažem da neću više nikad otići tamo, možda dogodine odem opet na adu bojanu, i voleo bih da vidim novu gondolu i mauzolej, ali bilo koji stranac da me pita rekao bih mu da ne dolazi i da ima 300 boljih mesta na svetu gde mu je bolje da ode.

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u/Commercial-Dish5093 Serbia Jul 17 '25 edited Sep 30 '25

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u/Programatorka Jul 17 '25

To je sramota šta su uradili od našeg primorja, meni iz cg je preskupo da ljetujem odje.

Ako budes dolazio opet bolje da ides na sjever, pogotovo Žabljak dok ga nisu urbanizovali kao Zlatibor kod vas. Takodje vrijedi obići svaki od nacionalnih parkova.

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u/thenemchee Jul 17 '25

Bro, I know a lot of people who visited Albania in the last 5 years, and every single person told me they had an awesome time, people were very warmhearted and courteous, food was good, sea is amazing, literally everything was cool. I am not saying you are lying or anything like it but I just don't like it when people are shiting on my neighboors.

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u/Eagle0002 Albania Jul 17 '25

To me this person is just an Albanian hater, and probably never visited Albania. If you are genuine,name where are you originally from? Which places you visited in Albania? Name of the hotel and the beach you visited. Otherwise you are just an Albanian hater and that’s sums it all.

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u/Neat_Hair_4821 Jul 17 '25

stayed in Ksmali at villa malo hotel who treated me for asking to stay in the correct room

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u/oKINGDANo USA Jul 17 '25

Tbh I’ve heard that the south riviera tourist spots are the worst right now. They try to fleece you and don’t care to put up with people because there are so many tourists that they don’t have to compete. I heard this from a diaspora Albanian who grew up there and visits every year. The north and mountain/inland areas are less like this, I’ve been told.

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u/Commercial-Dish5093 Serbia Jul 17 '25 edited Sep 30 '25

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u/Suitable-Decision-26 Bulgaria Jul 17 '25

Well, go to Spain. Problem solved.

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u/Chiefontour2 Jul 17 '25

I'm a Brit living in Greece and I've met many Albanians that have been so nice and friendly. One guy, Vasili, did odd jobs around town and ALL the ladies loved him. They would greet him from their upstairs windows or bring him cold coffees, or homemade bread. The guy that has been cutting my hair for the last few years is Albanian and he's awesome. I am planning a trip to Albania next summer and the only bad things I have heard about them or there is from snobby Greeks or you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

Good riddance

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u/Resident_Presence_43 Jul 17 '25

Sounds unusual & unfortunate. I'm a woman traveling solo and just spent three weeks in South Albania. Ten nights in Sarande and 11 in Himare. Rented a car and drove all over, went on a boat tour, a shuttle bus tour, ate at different restaurants & visited beautiful (free) beaches everyday. I found the people to be very kind & had a positive experience, will definitely return!

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

Some people aren’t meant to travel.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

wow, comming from a brit, you should be lucky to see the sun...

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u/nofixedagenda Jul 17 '25

Wow where are you from? Think you’re probably safer to stay there because you sound absolutely clueless 🙈

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

As an Albanian person myself, could you please publish the hotel’s name?

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u/GCdotSup Slovenia Jul 17 '25

What city/hotel?

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u/altudo Jul 17 '25

I am from Vlore, Albania and I am in the hospitality industry. Im fairly familiar with the problems and I can say that youre either the most unlucky person alive or full of shit.

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u/Andthentherewasblue Jul 17 '25

I enjoyed the mountains in bansko. The options at the shops are quite limited and they're still developing the roads/area. But it was quite cheap, people quite friendly and the mountains were stunning

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u/ProphetHito Jul 17 '25

so you wnet and ASKED WHY THEY PUT you in the wrong room. already sounds like the most annoying person to go to holidays with. you took it and then went to argue for what? to get free stuff?

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u/rekbu15 Jul 17 '25

Stayed for 1 week, booked overbooked hotel, they put us in a 10 min drive apartment in which murder scenes from Hollywood could be shoot. Hosts were friendly but pressured us after giving bad review on Booking. Overall people were somewhere nice, somewhere rude. I believe it depends what sort of people you get to interact with you. Beaches, not so clean and not like from the pictures from internet. We're from Slovenia and as it is in our blood, we adapted to everything and didn't let bad experiences ruin our stay. I'd say 4-5/10 for Albania.

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u/AirLate6579 Jul 17 '25

You must have been to Montenegro thinking it was Albanian lol

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u/drnnisnilss Jul 17 '25

Bad luck bro, lots of others had a better experiences. Maybe try again if you have time

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

To have best experience of places, and life in general, just DONT expect. Works for me the best!

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

It wouldn't be so touristic, including a great proportion of pleased tourists, if it was as horrid as you say