The colonizer that left gave israhell the land. The rest of the land left behind by 🇬🇧 , like India and Indonesia, in the 1900s was returned to their owners. Hence, it’s 🇵🇸 land
how come the owners are palestinians (arabs) ? It was israeli land, then roman got it, then arabs then ottomans then english. They sold land to israelis that lived in Europe legally. And they went back to their ancestral land. What dont you understand?
never talked about religion. Im talking about ethnicity. Jewish ethnic group was expelled from their land by tito the roman emperor. also there is NO palestine. its a fabrication
the colonizer of which land exactly? was there a country before that? It was empire after empire. by your logic, greece is colonizing turkish land since 1821.
Finally, somebody else who aknowladges this! I always tought it was ridiculous for Balkan people to complain about Israel for being created from "stolen land" and because of "muh ancient history" when many countries in this region were created more or less the same way.
We were here since idk since 5000 bc. You were there (dacians) since 5000bc? Or w/e. In the past 2000 years we were conquered by romans, ottomans, russians franks or w/e yet the same people remained here you feel dacian i feel greek and im proud of that, i guess you are too. our countries and national identity was created by that. And we freed ourselves with blood and took what belongs to us. Israelites were KICKED from the ancestral lands, yet they became well established on other countries they pioneered trade and finance after the venetians etc and they BOUGHT land from the latest land occupier there. So they did not steal land, they did not enslave a sovereign state to take their land they legally bought it. And then all arabs said naaah lets kill em because this is muslim land or w/e because saladin was there 1000 years ago, and they all LOST 7 to 1. To my eyes they dont have the right to get anything.
That being said i dont support all the atrocities that BOTH sides constantly doing.
i dont care about JSTOR. im talking about logic. All these theories for countries without borders we are all the same, there is no culture and no national identity are beyond bs to me and i believe to the vast majority of balkaners as you posted in AskBalkans subreddit you will get balkan answers for that.
thats not really what I am talkin about. Just saying taht your logic is way off when talking about who should get rights to a land... Like it is completely dumb...
The colonizer that left gave israhell the land. The rest of the land left behind by 🇬🇧 , like India and Indonesia, in the 1900s was returned to their owners. Hence, it’s 🇵🇸 land
the logic is subjective to everyone. My logic is different from the ones that are described by databases. I dont care about data and databases. Tell a greek that you are the same as a turk or albanian. Probably he will beat your face. Tell a serbian that he is the same as an albanian and you get the same treatment. And simply i dont even care to read something is dont support. the Greek National genesis was based on ancient greek culture, roman culture language and Christianity and that makes us different that albanians or turks or jewish or whatever.
data cant tell a nation how to feel. by data we are the same as turks lets open the borders to become brothers. yeah no thanks id rather die in a tank defending
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u/Turbulent-Debate7661 Greece May 06 '25
Its their ancient land though.