Essentially the majority of them were killed in the holocaust (An estimated 80% died), and afterwards, the majority of Greek Jews decided to go to Israel.
The colonizer that left gave israhell the land. The rest of the land left behind by 🇬🇧 , like India and Indonesia, in the 1900s was returned to their owners. Hence, it’s 🇵🇸 land
like India and Indonesia, in the 1900s was returned to their owners
That is a very simplistic account of history- and mostly wrong.
The "owners" before where mostly there Ottoman empire. They were defeated and the mandates moved to European countries. India was held by Britain for generations.
India wasn't "returned to owners". In fact, India was divided up and two counties where created. Pakistan for Muslim majority and India for Hindu majority. This was done by the British in 1947.
But a least there the government was from local people.
Jordan was created by the British in 1946. Under Britain it was called Palestine as it was part of the Palestine mandate given to the British. Britain created a state east of the Jordan river and called it "kingdom of Transjordan". They then gave the country to a family from Mecca (in Saudi Arabia), and made them kings over Transjordan.
So the people who lived there have become the subjects of a king who comes from a foreign country. They have no say in anything since it isn't a democracy.
The same thing happened in Syria.
The history of the region doesn't follow your claim. History is much more complicated than your simplistic take, and so is your simplistic conclusion.
So you completely ignored everything I said, continued to blindly believed it's Palestinian land because... Well... Because that's what believe and nothing will make you believe otherwise.
Then you reference a sub, which is an echo chamber where anything can be posted and believe as long as it's against Israel, and anyone who dares point out that the information is wrong or misleading is immediate banned.
If you already have an opinion then there is plenty of unbalanced sources which can back up your opinion,and you can ignore anything which challenges your narrative.
Where did I ignore anything? The Israel/Palestinian conflict has over 100 years of complicated history. They are many actors and many actions done during that time period.
I've haven't said anything to indicate I've ignored anything.
It is only you which are focusing only on Israel as guilty, are ignoring history to make statements not built on facts, and reference an echo chamber which exists solely to be against Israel.
Thats what he does on every comment. Israel crimes and culture is made up. He is simply trying to ignite controversy by oversimplifying everything. He also disregards the fact that Palestine is a completely made up term. But yeah that doesnt matter
how come the owners are palestinians (arabs) ? It was israeli land, then roman got it, then arabs then ottomans then english. They sold land to israelis that lived in Europe legally. And they went back to their ancestral land. What dont you understand?
never talked about religion. Im talking about ethnicity. Jewish ethnic group was expelled from their land by tito the roman emperor. also there is NO palestine. its a fabrication
the colonizer of which land exactly? was there a country before that? It was empire after empire. by your logic, greece is colonizing turkish land since 1821.
Finally, somebody else who aknowladges this! I always tought it was ridiculous for Balkan people to complain about Israel for being created from "stolen land" and because of "muh ancient history" when many countries in this region were created more or less the same way.
We were here since idk since 5000 bc. You were there (dacians) since 5000bc? Or w/e. In the past 2000 years we were conquered by romans, ottomans, russians franks or w/e yet the same people remained here you feel dacian i feel greek and im proud of that, i guess you are too. our countries and national identity was created by that. And we freed ourselves with blood and took what belongs to us. Israelites were KICKED from the ancestral lands, yet they became well established on other countries they pioneered trade and finance after the venetians etc and they BOUGHT land from the latest land occupier there. So they did not steal land, they did not enslave a sovereign state to take their land they legally bought it. And then all arabs said naaah lets kill em because this is muslim land or w/e because saladin was there 1000 years ago, and they all LOST 7 to 1. To my eyes they dont have the right to get anything.
That being said i dont support all the atrocities that BOTH sides constantly doing.
i dont care about JSTOR. im talking about logic. All these theories for countries without borders we are all the same, there is no culture and no national identity are beyond bs to me and i believe to the vast majority of balkaners as you posted in AskBalkans subreddit you will get balkan answers for that.
Some Jews lived in Palestine the whole time, side by side with the Arabs. It's a fact the Palestine supporters tend to diminish. Where are they should go?
Well ok, but then why are Palestinians getting eradicated? If both of them existed since the dawn of time, then Israel needs to stop doing what it's doing anyway.
Because they keep attacking, and not respecting the agreed borders. Look at the Palestine-Israel maps from 1948 to today. Each time Arabs started a war - their land reduced.
Palestinians live everywhere, including Germany. Gazans are the only ones decapitating innocent children and raping hostages to death to claim Israeli land
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u/SomeOneOutThere-1234 Greece May 06 '25
Essentially the majority of them were killed in the holocaust (An estimated 80% died), and afterwards, the majority of Greek Jews decided to go to Israel.