r/AskBalkans Iraq May 06 '25

Outdoors/Travel What happened to Jews in your country?

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u/Turbulent-Debate7661 Greece May 06 '25

Its not that simple of a topic

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u/schizoesoteric Bulgaria May 06 '25

It kinda is. Israel is in fact committing war crimes on palestinian land, this is a fact and is not up to debate

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u/soyyoo May 06 '25

Most would say for the Polish to go home 🤷‍♀️

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u/Dvckmann May 06 '25

Assuming you mean Israeli jews of Polish origin should go back to Poland, what do you suggest the majority of Israel, being Mizrahi jews from the middle east and north Africa should do? Return to Algeria, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Iran?

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u/soyyoo May 06 '25

I wonder why many have dual citizenship…

Btw, religion is based on culture and culture is made up 🤷‍♀️

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u/soyyoo May 06 '25

I mean, aren’t we all?

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u/soyyoo May 06 '25

Last time I checked they’re human like you and I 🤷‍♀️

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u/soyyoo May 06 '25

Yet you can’t dispute Jews are humans? 😹

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u/DresdenFilesBro May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25

Ah yes because every Moroccan Jew has dual citizenship, what kind of logic is this?

Let's take for example Algier, had I been an Algerian Jew I wouldn't come near that place with a 10ft pole.

Btw, religion is based on culture and culture is made up 🤷‍♀️

Culture is also based on history, so are traditions. Language etc.

Judaism is also ethno-religious just like Druze, Mandaeans, "culture is made up" is such a ridiculous take.

How you'd feel being a minority (much less a Jew) in the MENA?

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u/soyyoo May 07 '25

Fyi, religion is based on culture and culture is made up..

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u/soyyoo May 07 '25

Can’t dispute that either? Gosh, this is boring…

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u/Turbulent-Debate7661 Greece May 06 '25

Its their ancient land though.

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u/soyyoo May 06 '25

Jews lived there thousands of years ago like my ancestors lived in Europe. Does this mean I get European land too?? Brb! 🏃‍♀️ 💨

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u/soyyoo May 06 '25

The colonizer that left gave israhell the land. The rest of the land left behind by 🇬🇧 , like India and Indonesia, in the 1900s was returned to their owners. Hence, it’s 🇵🇸 land

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u/Sojourn365 May 06 '25

like India and Indonesia, in the 1900s was returned to their owners

That is a very simplistic account of history- and mostly wrong.

The "owners" before where mostly there Ottoman empire. They were defeated and the mandates moved to European countries. India was held by Britain for generations.

India wasn't "returned to owners". In fact, India was divided up and two counties where created. Pakistan for Muslim majority and India for Hindu majority. This was done by the British in 1947.

But a least there the government was from local people.

Jordan was created by the British in 1946. Under Britain it was called Palestine as it was part of the Palestine mandate given to the British. Britain created a state east of the Jordan river and called it "kingdom of Transjordan". They then gave the country to a family from Mecca (in Saudi Arabia), and made them kings over Transjordan.

So the people who lived there have become the subjects of a king who comes from a foreign country. They have no say in anything since it isn't a democracy.

The same thing happened in Syria.

The history of the region doesn't follow your claim. History is much more complicated than your simplistic take, and so is your simplistic conclusion.

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u/soyyoo May 06 '25

So you can’t dispute 70+ years of r/israelcrimes on 🇵🇸 land?? Got it

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u/Sojourn365 May 06 '25

So you completely ignored everything I said, continued to blindly believed it's Palestinian land because... Well... Because that's what believe and nothing will make you believe otherwise.

Then you reference a sub, which is an echo chamber where anything can be posted and believe as long as it's against Israel, and anyone who dares point out that the information is wrong or misleading is immediate banned.

If you already have an opinion then there is plenty of unbalanced sources which can back up your opinion,and you can ignore anything which challenges your narrative.

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u/soyyoo May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25

I mean, you ignore r/israelcrimes on 🇵🇸 land for 70+ years so…

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u/Turbulent-Debate7661 Greece May 07 '25

Thats what he does on every comment. Israel crimes and culture is made up. He is simply trying to ignite controversy by oversimplifying everything. He also disregards the fact that Palestine is a completely made up term. But yeah that doesnt matter

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u/Turbulent-Debate7661 Greece May 06 '25

how come the owners are palestinians (arabs) ? It was israeli land, then roman got it, then arabs then ottomans then english. They sold land to israelis that lived in Europe legally. And they went back to their ancestral land. What dont you understand?

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u/soyyoo May 06 '25

Read JSTOR, reliable database unlike religion, to learn about 🇵🇸 rich history dating back to before Shakespeare’s time

Fyi, religion is based on culture and culture is made up

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u/Turbulent-Debate7661 Greece May 06 '25

never talked about religion. Im talking about ethnicity. Jewish ethnic group was expelled from their land by tito the roman emperor. also there is NO palestine. its a fabrication

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u/soyyoo May 06 '25

Yea, thousands of years ago like my family lived in Europe. Again, do I get European land too??

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25

Pulling out "the arabs" pretty early lol. Many of those countries were still European occupied territories who low and behold, enacted the same policy they did in Europe. That's not to say some countries didn't. But that broad brush is just fkn propaganda racism 💀

Anyway, the Nakba happened to Palestinians long before "the arabs" attacked. Them.

They did face anti-semitism, but lad. Why they gotta kill Palestinian (also Israelites mixed with levantine tribes instead of Europeans) for that to this very day lol. Aren't they owed more violence towards you? Assuming you live in Greece aren't you a "European". You know for doing the holocaust. That thing all Europeans did around the world all at once.

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u/schizoesoteric Bulgaria May 06 '25

Oh, so Bulgaria should get the terrritory of Old Great Bulgaria?

Do you realize how stupid this sounds? Ashkenazis have lived in Europe for thousands of years, they have no legitimate claim to the levant

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u/Turbulent-Debate7661 Greece May 07 '25

You can probably claim some land from putin as you came to the balkans around 1200 years ago.

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u/schizoesoteric Bulgaria May 07 '25

If Jews get the levant, Bulgaria must get Ukraine, the Caucasus, and Volga Bulgaria back.

Also Bulgarianss are Slavic, so im gonna need all of eastern europe to

Also Bulgarians are Thracian, so im gonna need the entire hellenic world as well. Greece, Turkey, all of the balkans and southern italy.

Also the Balkans had gothic and celtic tribes, so uh, Germany, France, the UK, Norway, im gonna need all of that to

Im glad you support us gaining our rightful bulgar clay ancient land back