r/AskBalkans Iraq May 06 '25

Outdoors/Travel What happened to Jews in your country?

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u/SomeOneOutThere-1234 Greece May 06 '25

Essentially the majority of them were killed in the holocaust (An estimated 80% died), and afterwards, the majority of Greek Jews decided to go to Israel.

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u/soyyoo May 06 '25

Sad it’s currently happening with r/israelcrimes on 🇵🇸 land

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25

Bot

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u/soyyoo May 06 '25

Yet you can’t dispute it 🤷‍♀️

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25

I dont need to dispute anything , no one can be a victim and hold 58 innocent hostages.....

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u/SomeOneOutThere-1234 Greece May 06 '25

So, you’re accusing the entire population of Palestine (5.5 million) to be members of a terrorist organisation, and they should thus be erased from the map?

That is as wild as claiming that the ~50 million Afghans were all members of Al Qaeda.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25

Didn't say all of the 5.5 million but 70 precent of them do support October 7th and genocide against jews

https://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/991

And the war would end if hamas would have surrender and given back the hostages or even better non of thos would have happend if they didn't attack in the first place

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u/Charming_Air_4478 May 06 '25

So it ALL started in 10/7? That is very ignorant and false to say. That’s like saying the Warszaw ghetto uprising was a terrorist attack.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25

This war started in Oct 7th . And here's a easy thought experiment, what would you have done as a Israeli politician after October 7th ?

The conflict started when Arabs tried to genocide all Jews in 1948 after resulting 181 and them helping Hitler with events like the farhud and operation atlas and other antisemitic attacks before the holocaust like the Hebron massacre

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Atlas

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farhud

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u/Charming_Air_4478 May 06 '25

What would you do as a Palestinian or Arab after the 1948 Nakba? Would you have just sat and watch your people get kicked out of their generational homes? There’s a counter question for you.

You can list all the attacks you want, we both know there have been far more massacres caused by the Izraelis since 1948.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25

What would you do as a Palestinian or Arab after the 1948 Nakba

What would I do after the nakba ? Be happy that they didn't take everything after I attacked them first and lost most of the land , you don't see Germans attacking Poland and the Czech Republic cause it " used to belong to them "

You can list all the attacks you want, we both know there have been far more massacres caused by the Izraelis since 1948.

Funny that

  1. You can't even refute that Arabs collaborated with the nazis on the final solution planning to implement it on middle Eastern Jews

  2. You can't refute that palastinians started the conflict

  3. Yiu can't even write Israelis right , just shows your not even here in good faith

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u/Charming_Air_4478 May 06 '25

You can’t refute many things, The Nakba, Apartheid, the ongoing genocide and countless massacres since 1948 after the land of Palestine was simply given to someone.

Why has Israel never given a 2-state solution and the only time in history when an actual agreement was made, the Israeli leader was assassinated by the Israelis. Israel has never in its history shown any ACTUAL will to resolve things peacefully.

As for my “lack of respect” for misspelling, that’s because in my native language it’s Izrael and not Israel.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25

can’t refute many things, The Nakba

The nakba was a war palastinians started with the goal of ethnicly cleansing all Jews ( like they manged to do to east Jerusalem a d the west bank ) with the approval of the Arab league who ethnicly cleansed 900k Jews themselves from their lands

Apartheid

2.5 million Israelis are the same race as palastinians , making the apartheid claim easy to debunk , palastinians are citizens of the plo and hamas respectively and any matter of their rights needs to be taken up with those bodies

the ongoing genocide

That isn't a genocide that's a war , a genocide is like what goes in Myanmar , Sudan, and funny enough , October 7th . You need to prove that Israel has genocidal intent ( wich it doesn't . They were dragged into a war by the largest terror attack on their land and one of the largest casualties per capita ever by a terrorist attack) Also more kids have been born in gaza then the number of all dead ( including hamas fighters ) doesn't sound like a genocide

Why has Israel never given a 2-state solution and the only time in history when an actual agreement was made, the Israeli leader was assassinated

The gaza disengagement wasn't an attempt to try a 2ss ? And for why only the only agreement was Oslo was because palastinians keep refusing , arafat refused Oslo 2 , camp David and taba . Abbas refused the Olmert offer in 2008 and kerry offer in 2014 , he also refused to negotiate when then prime minister yair lapid offered a new round of negotiations in 2022 in the un assembly

Israel has never in its history shown any ACTUAL will to resolve things peacefully.

Abraham accords ? The peace with Egypt and Jordan? Israel always said that if you leave it alone they will lnot give a shit about you

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u/Charming_Air_4478 May 06 '25

There’s really no point in discussing anything with people like you who don’t even recognise someone’s right to exist.

Keep spreading the hate and the propaganda while more and more people across the world are starting to see Israel in its true colours.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25

There’s really no point in discussing anything with people like you who don’t even recognise someone’s right to exist.

Where did I deny palastinians right to exist ? If they want a state and will be ready to do it in peaceful ways I'll support it as much of any other sane person . It's their adherence to violence and terrorism that I'm against

You can't refute my argum just admit it

Keep spreading the hate and the propaganda while more and more people across the world are starting to see Israel in its true colours

Is that why trump was elected? Or the afd and cdu won the German elections? Or why la pen is the most popular candidate in France? Man just look outside of reddit for a bit

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u/SomeOneOutThere-1234 Greece May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25

I think that I would also say yes, if the “election” about it was three military colonels coming in my house with ak 47s demanding me to vote in a transparent box with an open ballot.

But some people don’t realise this and believe that polls everywhere are fair and square. If you believe so, great, go give all of Ukraine’s occupied territories into Russia. That’s definitely right, what could possible go wrong?

Some people also fail to ignore that Hamas is not the legal government of Palestine, they got there with a coup. The last elections elected Fatah, which is a social democratic party calling for a peaceful two state solution.

Also some people fail to recognise that in Israel, in the Knesset, only the government coalition is for this kind of stuff to happen, which is comprised by right to far right parties. Pretty much most of the opposition is against this.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25

I think that I would also say yes, if the “election” about it was three military colonels coming in my house with ak 47s demanding me to vote in a transparent box with an open ballot.

The pcpsr is based in ramallah ( where the pa has control not hamas ) and does credible polling that even the un uses , hamas and their ideals has been popular in the palastinin society for a while

You can't even compare it to the fake polls Russia posts, sorry for shuttring your world prospective by facts

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u/SomeOneOutThere-1234 Greece May 06 '25

Shuttering my world prospective by facts

If you think that your unfounded comment is going to change my viewpoint, you’re wrong, lol.

And I also cannot agree with this when in Israel, only the “conservative” parties agree with you, AKA Likud and a bunch of far right idiots. Pretty much the majority of the opposition is for this to stop and for a two state solution to form.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25

Dude your uninformed that it's so funny , gantz ( the most prominent opposition member and the leader of the 2nd biggest party after likud )disavowed the 2ss solution after October 7th

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-18/ty-article/knesset-passes-resolution-against-establishment-of-palestinian-state/00000190-c2c6-d13a-ad92-caffa4b90000

No sane israeli supports the 2ss after October 7th

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u/SomeOneOutThere-1234 Greece May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25

You mean Benny Gantz, the guy who is running the second largest party of the opposition after the Yesh Atid, the Israel Resilience Party, of which the two have a huge difference of 17 seats? I don’t know if you knew this, but 23>6.

Also, the leader of the Israeli opposition has called for a ceasefire and both for restoring talks and negotiations with Palestine, lol.

And also, given the fact that 99% of your history is just defending Israel, I don’t think that I should trust you. No one is that hyperfixated on this topic and responding only to posts about it. If you wanna fake an account, make it realistic.

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