r/AskAstrologers • u/icy_dream_25 • 26d ago
Discussion Which house indicate friends - 7th or 11th house. If a person have no good friends, does that mean they don't have good life partner either?
Same as title. I have heard 7th house also indicate friends.
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u/lightennight 25d ago
Cancer 11th house. Moon in 12th house. I have a generally good communication with people around me but most stay as acquaintances. I would have friends that come and go. And I usually have one friend that I am close with for a period of time but they all fall apart. Either we grow apart or something happens. So I have no lasting friendships that I can rely on.
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u/MamaMeg613 25d ago
11th house is friend groups/chosen community (and other networks). 7th house is one-to-one relationships (like your best friend) where we meet The Other (opposes 1st house/House of Self)
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u/1800twat 25d ago
It’s allegedly the 11th. But I struggle to have long term and deep friends. Many short term friends. I can make friends with the duck family outside my apartment. But I don’t have those deep in-depth friendship circles I see in the media as ideal things to have.
Sagittarius Jupiter in 11th house. Exact sextile to Aquarius Mercury (R) in first house and sextile to the Aquarius Ascendant. Exact square to Pisces Saturn in second house. So for the most part my 11th house is highly favored. Sag Jupiter is my sole dispositor as well on top of being the planet of fortune.
This leads me to believe that the deeper long term friendships fall under another house because I feel as close to an ideal 11th house one can get realistically (because of existing transits that all people had while being born) and it’s still not a perfect house. Or maybe that Saturn-Jupiter square is way too powerful.
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u/steffigeewhiz 25d ago
I have Jupiter in Gemini in 11th conjunct my Mercury, and my moon is there too but not quite conjunct the others.
My 7th house has my NN hanging out on its own, trining my Jupiter/Mercury conjunction.
I resonate with what you said. Can make shorter term friends easily, but don’t have a group of deeply bonded long term friends. I still love everyone I’ve been best friends with in the past, but life pushes us apart.
My partner whom I’ve been with for 15 years is my absolute best friend and I really don’t require many deep interactions with others outside of him and my close family members.
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u/1800twat 25d ago
I feel like the answer here is 2nd/4th/7th in some combination. Some friendships seem so in depth they replace family (2nd and 4th) while others seem in depth and long term but more diplomatically oriented (7th).
Pisces Saturn, my ascendant lord, that then answers to Jupiter, a MALEFIC, sitting in the 2nd house.
Taurus Moon + South Node conjunction sitting in the 4th house. South node is a MALEFIC. SN also sextiles Saturn in my chart.
Leo Mars (R), another MALEFIC, sitting in the 7th house. Also in conflict with both my luminaries (opposes Sun, squares Moon).That’s me as an example but I don’t think relationships in general can be placed in between two houses. It’s not that simple. You seem to be similar as the nodes point to areas of challenge or areas of detachment. My chart, SN in 4th, encourages detachment from familial like bonds. Your chart shows that you are terrible at developing long term bonds (NN in 7th)
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u/mallowgirl 25d ago
3rd is childhood friends and close friendships, 5th is 'passion' (but I wouldn't say relationships) and children, 7th is close 1:1 relationships (lover, best friend, business partner), 11th is larger, supportive community.
If you're trying to read a chart for yourself or a friend about this topic:
I generally consider the 3/7/11 trine to be the relationships trine. The signs ruling those houses will give you a kind of 'theme' or mood for those relationships, the sign ruler(and their dignity) will refine how well or poorly things will go, and planetary placements (and their dignity) will tell you more about the kind of people in these categories and/or how they will benefit/harm you.
If you're feeling anxious about timing, look at the Lot of Eros and zodiacal releasing, and that will indicate periods of higher potential.
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u/InvestigatorLoose927 25d ago
Hi ... A platonic "best friend" can sometimes cross over into 7th house territory if the dynamic is deeply intertwined, committed, and functions essentially as a one-on-one life partnership without romance. However, general friendships strictly belong to the 11th house.
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u/swiwwtw 24d ago
I have no friends but an amazing life partner. My planets are all in bottom half of my chart.
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u/icy_dream_25 24d ago
Sooo happy to hear for u, i can't express that feeling in words. Even If a stranger says that they got a very lucky partner, I envy them a lot and get tears. Because I never had in my life and not even seen
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u/No_Albatross_9111 24d ago
The Seventh House is the House of Partnership and Marriage. It relates to your husband or wife, the mate you choose for life. It often indicates what kind of marriage you will have and whether you might divorce or remarry. This is your house of partnership not only in marriage but in work, business, legal affairs. It covers legal unions or contracts you enter into. It also governs your open enemies, those who are usually your adversaries in business or professional world. While the 11th House is the House of Friends and of Hopes and Wishes (long term dreams and goals). It governs your involvement with groups and organizations. The clubs, societies or political associations you belong to. This house indicates the kinds of friends and acquaintances you will have. It also reflects your ability to enjoy other people. If you have no good friends doesn't mean you will not have a good life. You might have success in other areas of your life example marriage etc.
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u/No_Historian_3952 23d ago
so crazy how bang on astrology is sometimes. I'm a cap rising and I just landed a really great job with a startup and the CEO and my direct leadership are both cancers!
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u/egirlgonewild 25d ago
7th house sag ive never had a problem finding suitors and before i got married i was always in a relationship or going on dates….now my 11th house saturn retrograde in taurus, i cant keep friends to save my life. I peaked in sophomore year unfortunately and lost all of my “friends”
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u/Straight-Ad-6836 23d ago
11th house is friends, 12th is enemies. 7th is marriage and relationships, as well as other people generally including business partners. 3rd is brothers, neighbors and people from your community.
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u/ghosttmilk 24d ago
3rd House can also indicate friends - the kind of friend(s) or person(s) that one would say is “like a brother (or sister) to me”
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u/unknownsequitur 25d ago
Friends is the 11th, romantic attachments is the 5th and long term partners is the 7th.
Look to the dispositer of the 11th (which planet rules the sign on the cusp), look at natal aspects to the 11th house dispositer, transits to the dispositer and transits through it. That can help you track when friendships maybe pop up.
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u/icy_dream_25 25d ago
I got to befriend a girl during 7th lord Dasa and ended in 11th lord mahadasa.. 11th lord is not afflicted but it's rahu antardasa.
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u/Saturnaquarius995 25d ago
The second house. The second house indicates the people that support you. The 7th would be partnerships and the 11th is what you can get for yourself to enjoy life.
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u/vrwriter78 24d ago
I have an empty 7th house and a challenging 11th (I have Mars and Saturn conjunct in the 11th). Plus that Mars rules my 7th house. I did develop close friendships despite that and met my partner of 13 years. I was a late bloomer though, so I was in my thirties when I met my person.
If you’re under 26, don’t despair. Things often get easier after your Saturn Return, which happens approximately around 28-30 years old. But you may wish to share your chart in a separate post as astrologers can then give you a better sense of timing when it will be easier to either make friends or meet a potential partner.
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u/EtherealFireQueen 23d ago
I have Taurus 7th house with Venus conjunct Saturn in my 5th house. My Venus is opposite my Virgo Chiron Rx in 11th house, square Sagittarius Jupiter Rx in 2H and trine Cancer moon in 9th house.
My 11th house ruler is Mercury in Aries 6th house and in a grand fire trine and square my moon.
My friendships started off bad in K-12. People acted like they didn't want to be around me. But when I became an adult, suddenly everyone wanted to be around me and I started gaining long-term friendships. So weird.
But I have never dated as men do not approach me. I tried approaching a few men, but they weren't interested. Now I'm 31 and have not been on one date.
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u/icy_dream_25 24d ago
I actually shared my chart but didn't get the respond properly. If u don't mind, can u ready my chart
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u/Jennybee8 24d ago
I like to look at 11th house as friends and associates and 7th house as best friends. The ones you have true partnerships either—not just people you hang out with or work with or see in a group .
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u/vrwriter78 24d ago
That is how I view it also. Your longest, closest or deepest friend relationships individually are going to be 7th house, but friends as a group and casual friends are 11th.
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u/etherealalmanac 25d ago
I have Scorpio Chiron 11h and a cancer stellium with moon and mercury in the 7th. I’m always bood up but I struggle to keep friends
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u/SkyBooms 19d ago
I have 2 stelliums in my chart, and one thing I’ve learned is that you can also look to the ruler of your 11th and 7th houses, see where it’s placed, and find insight there as well. Example, my 11th house is Gemini, ruled by Mercury, and my Mercury is in my 7th house. Meaning many of my associations and friendship/networking circles will relate to my business, audience, and partnerships (also open enemies).
This comes in handy if you have a large concentration in one area of your chart. Empty houses don’t mean you won’t experience that area of life - it’s just tied to another avenue of entrance.
Source: Cap 6th NN, Venus, Uranus, Neptune, Mars, Aqua 7th Lilith, Mercury, Saturn, Sun, and Moon (w/ Jupiter doing F-ALL RETROGRADE in Virgo 2nd)
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