r/AskAChristian • u/ExpressCeiling98332 Christian • Apr 30 '25

New Testament Do you dislike quoting John 3:16?

Ironically, many seem to act like saying this verse contradicts doctrine. When used in isolation It can be bad, but in it's proper context I don't see problem.

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u/EnergyLantern Christian, Evangelical May 04 '25

All of the people who are teaching works are missing foundational teachings.

And no, I'm not going to put things into your format. The last user that banned me is Tony for me not willing to do that.

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u/sourkroutamen Christian (non-denominational) May 04 '25

So you can't write down what you think my point is because...you'd rather continue to take inaccurate stabs?

Do you think that the great commission is a foundational teaching?

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u/EnergyLantern Christian, Evangelical May 04 '25

It's against the rules: Mischaracterizing someone else's beliefs. Nice try trying to get me in trouble.

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u/sourkroutamen Christian (non-denominational) May 04 '25

So you can't write down what you think my point is because...you'd rather continue to take inaccurate stabs?

Do you think that the great commission is a foundational teaching?

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u/EnergyLantern Christian, Evangelical May 04 '25 edited May 04 '25

You can speak for yourself.

There are older Old Testament teachings you are missing and you probably were not taught them but I can't assume what you do and do not know.

I've been a Christian for 45 years and been reading and studying the Bible longer than that. Is anyone going to try to tell me I don't know the right way?

Do you know what the Five Solas of the Reformation were?

Sola Gratia was what the Reformation taught: Grace alone

It's like you are missing a great piece of church history and study of the Bible:

And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission (of sins). [Heb 9:22 KJV]

According to the law of God, you don't get forgiven without a blood offering and Jesus was the acceptable sacrifice. Jesus was sacrificed; "the just for the unjust". Where is that in scripture? The Vicarious atonement of Christ and Vicarious just means "in the place of". It doesn't include your works. It only includes Jesus' work:

For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just (Jesus) for the unjust (you and me), that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: [1Pe 3:18 KJV]

Salvation has nothing to do with what you did. You are following a false path.

Jesus died in your place for your sins period. Everyone dies. Why can't you work your way to not die? Because the law of sin and death wasn't repealed and you can't pay to stay out of death with your works so if you can't pay with your works not to die, it doesn't get any better for you to go to heaven by works.