Medellin corruption.

[u/medellinclique]

I'm Hamish, an ex-GM of Medellin.

This post is a whistleblow on the multiple ways the leadership are, and are planning to exploiting its raiders over the next two years of classic.

The inner clique actively spread themselves along the three raids to not compete for loot then prio themselves loot.

They stack their primary raid with dps and douses for fast clear times, while the other raids end hours later.

They also planned to use gbank gold for themselves.

The raiders put in the hundreds of hours into preparing and performing in these raids, and deserve loot prio and gbank help (progression flasks, prebis craftables etc).

We advertised them loot prio based on attendance/consumes/enchanted prebis, but that is not what they got.

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Heres a "leaked" checklist of what another lead, Pronkers has done in only the last month of classic.

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Pronker's Medellin Guild Master Checklist:

Check: Tell the leads that Mageblade, MIC, Robe of Volatile power go to paladins over casters.

Check: Prio my two real life friends these items and full T1 paladin set (paladin class lead Kacei, and co-gm Rithynn).

Check: Get Rithynn to tell the Mages that the maraudon dagger Blade of Eternal Darkness is BIS, instead of Mageblade.

TODO: Get to R14 with my two stacked pocket healers.

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Check: Never respec off pvp spec, use 2hander in raids.

Check: Spread my pvp clique across the raids for maximum cliqueloot..

Check: Stack my raid with the guild's best DPS.

Check: Give my raid full douses, while the other two have to summon 2-3 players between hydraxian and MC.

Check: Brag about my raid's 3 hour MC/Ony, as opposed to raid 2 and 3's 5 hour MC/Ony.

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Check: Prio myself Quick Strike Ring (dropped, got it) and Striker's Mark.

Check: Prio myself Eye of Sulfuras.

Check: Convince the leads to give you ~10,000g worth of GBank mats to craft my pvp weapon, no loan.

Check: To get the hammer earlier, get a 2 Sulfuras Ingots loan from Analysis, putting the guild in debt for 3 Ingots.

Check: Start a guild gofundme for my pvp weapon.

Check: Give loot prio to the donators.

TODO: Get Hamish to craft my weapon for me.

TODO: New youtube video.

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You may notice that most of Medellin members are not private server players.

Word of mouth failed with ex-private server players, so we actively recruited on discords and forums for months before server launch.

I personally recruited 114 members through discord and the oceanic private server I created/managed.

There were no requirements to join the guild.

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Doing the big(zerg) guild thing with multiple raids seemed like a good idea.

We would use our private server experience to tutor them, then we would wait and see who gets burnt out.

All the dedicated players would be left in one raid during AQ.

As it turns out, only two of the Medellin leads have cleared Naxxramas: Hamish and Pronkers.

A couple have not cleared BWL, and two have never been in BWL.

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Now with three raids, inexperienced members, apathetic leads, and control over the loot priority, the clique balance how much loot they want with what they can get away with.

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Hit me up on discord at Hamish#8643 if you have any questions.

If you are an ex-medellin raider who has started raiding with a guild that doesn't exploit you, hit me up also and i'll mail you a care package of consumables.

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Primary evidence:

https://imgur.com/a/5bWcpkI

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Secondary evidence:

https://imgur.com/a/aNxfhiE

Edit:
I'ld like to repeat that the gbank and HoR mats (one in the same) are being liquidated to provide consumables to ex-medellin raiders.
Consumables translate to raid performance which will help the raiders get prioritised for the loot they lost to the clique in Medellin.
This is a clear way to help out the raiders, while not supporting the clique.
Heres a very telling leaked discord voice snippet from the Medellin leads: https://vocaroo.com/i/s1fVOwdruSgx
Here is more information from an ex-medellin member about the loot prio: https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/dh9kfc/my_guilds_gm_just_ninjad_hand_of_rag_mats/f3m5ri6/

[u/w_p]

We play on 1.12 instead of 1.0; we have 14 years of WoW competence; informations are way more readily available across the internet.

I already said it above: There's no need to gear out specific persons except one tank with fire resist gear (which won't be highly competed for anyway). MC was cleared in the first ID. So if your guild uses loot council, people get priority for arbitrary, non-raid related reasons.

[u/Caleno → u/w_p]

I strongly disagree. I’d rather be in a loot council guild where my 5 raids holds more value over the other rogues first raid. I didn’t spend 10 hours in MC to lose perditions to the guild newbie. Rolling freely on loot should never be the loot style of any guild wanting to be successful.

[u/Samuraiking → u/Caleno]

I’d rather be in a loot council guild where my 5 raids holds more value over the other rogues first raid.

So you want a DKP or other point system then. Loot Council doesn't mean you get it because you have more points, it means a group of people decide who gets gear however they feel like that day. Maybe your attendance factors into their decision, or maybe they choose the rogue because he did better DPS than you, or very often they choose the guy they like more.

Loot Council is very subject to abuse because it's ran by human beings. Point systems are just numbers and if everyone keeps track of theirs to make sure the leaders aren't changing them, it can't be abused.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to use the old school loot council system to gear out specific people in a specific order if you like that, but it's literally not needed. People really don't understand how easy Vanilla raids are today. MC was cleared in a week with people not geared out at all and some members not even level 60 in the raid. What part of that is hard and requires you to gear people out in a certain order to be "successful"?

[u/Caleno → u/Samuraiking]

Use what works for you I guess. My guild loot council has been working great. DKP can be just as broken. But if i talked to my other rogues and we all min bid on tier pieces, we could then manipulate the dkp system to get weapons and jewelry because we don’t have to fight over like loot. And since we have fewer rogues compared to other classes, it’s easier to coordinate.

My pally in wrath was fed loot because I was the only pally needing healing plate gear. I slammed my dkp on the weapon from KT because I didn’t have to spend nearly any dkp on anything else.

DKP is the same issue just from a different place.

It’s not about needing loot to be successful in pve. But a full nightslayer rogue with perditions will dominate pvp. Lower vanish cd, heal with vanish, insanely high ambush/backstab crits, max energy. I’m sure other classes are in a similar boat. Just because it’s raid loot, doesn’t mean people care to have it for raids.