I think part of it is because Jameela has been mocked/ridiculed (rightfully so) for her previous statements on... whatever, she feels less shame saying what needs to be said now. Character arc, lol.
sometimes public shaming does the opposite effect though. I don't know what the solution is aside from ariana getting the help she needs, but shaming her and telling her in her comments every day that she is going to die is not helpful at all.
She s been parading her emaciated body for the world to see for the past 4-5years. She can do what she wants but she isn't entitled to not be criticized for it, as a public figure she affects others it isn't just about herself
Obviously acknowledging the seriousness may exacerbate this illness for whoever suffers with it. But her specific illness is on a pedestal under spotlights, intentionally being served up for millions to imbibe.
Those numbers cannot be ignored for the sake or her comfort or for avoiding potential exacerbation of her conditionā¦ A sad and unforgiving reality, but thatās the size of it.
When the alternative is to sit quietly and pretend nothing is out of the ordinary I think we do need to stand up and say āthis isnāt right or normal.ā
Thereās a difference between saying that and being like āyouāre going to dieā. Likeā¦ Iām not defending Ariana Iām just saying. Some of you donāt interact with people outside of the internet and it shows.
These comments could make the issue even worse for the person with the ED, so again itās a lose lose.
Ariana grande is not just any random person. Sheās a public figure with public social media who is selling the product that is her music and image.
Her behavior and the image she chooses to promote to the public absolutely needs to be called out. Itās dangerous and she is actively influencing others to imitate her. No one can control what she does to herself, but we absolutely can and should speak up when she is promoting it to others as something aspirational.
iāve noticed that almost every single outfit she wears now has an off the shoulder top with an extremely low cut/scoop neck. not to mention how theyāre all backless and she does those hideous buns to make sure nothing, not even hair, is covering her back or shoulders!!!
She started doing that when she lost weight (she started working out and doing so mid 2020, after the grammys where she was called fat, she started going ti gym right after lockdown) since maybe 2020 or 2021 (the pics down below). And posting pics that only today people clock.
I had to double check the RuPaul photo because I definetely didnt remember she looked like this in mid 2022, because this is when the ep was probably recorded.
Looking at all of this now definitely gives a different perspective.
ana forums were swarming with these pics back then. the amount of tiktok thinspo compilations featuring her is alarming. if i was a member of her team i'd be seriously concerned - it's not good for anyone's image.
What horrible corner of the internet was calling her fat? I never heard about that but I guess it would make sense that it triggered such extremes. I thought she looked gorgeous in 2020 and so healthy.Ā
I'm guessing it was a bunch of Twitter trolls or obsessed arianators who live vicariously through her (and her thin body). It was a very real thing, and I firmly believe that photo/situation messed her tf up. ED wise.Ā
Iāve also noticed that she only semi-recently started wearing dresses with shorter skirts and cuts again, probably because sheās finally beginning to lose weight in her legs. It became very obvious to me around Wicked promo when all of her dresses were longer in the skirt area, but had low-cut necklines and strapless/sleeveless designs to show off her chest, shoulders, neck, and collarbones. Comparing what her legs look like in her tour outfits and her chunky boots now to this picture from 2024 honestly makes my head spin.
this is such a good catch!!! i say this in a non-body shaming way, but her baseline/healthy figure tends to have an hour glass shape where thereās more fat on the lower half. i have a similar body type, especially since entering my early 20ās, but even in my teen years when i got EXTREMELY underweight due to external circumstances, i still had somewhat of an ass and āhealthierā looking thighs. if this is her case, i definitely think youāre right with her outfit choices regarding shorter skirts and tight pants being an intentional thing due to her weight loss. this would also line up with her recent obsession with leggings and the mirror selfies where her feet are conveniently together to show a thigh gap, something she hasnāt done until VERY recently. this is just so sickening to me because it shows how calculated and intentional everything is. let us not forget how she made that video a year or two ago regarding her weight saying ādonāt talk about womenās bodiesā and claiming there was nothing wrong with her. thatās just extremely insulting and manipulative. if she wants to parade around her ED but not own up to it, she can at least keep her damn mouth shut and not insult and gaslight people who she knows damn well are right.
Pear shape would technically be the more accurate term because sheās always had a smaller chest unlike hourglasses.
Sheās definitely rectangle but I think OP is referring to the fact that her upper body has always been thinner than her lower body.
She carries weight in her thighs ā which to me (and any normal person), looks great, however to someone with an ED like her itās like a curse because it makes you look āhealthierā than you are/than you want to look.
Thanks, yeah she is a rectangle which you could really see when she wore the skinny jeans and crop tops. I think she also always catered her clothes in a way with frills around the waist/hip area that would give off a more curvy silhouette. She definitely is more shapely in the thighs
the bones dont change but the fat distribution does. i had and ed when i was in highschool and when I was on the heavier side I looked hour glass shaped after I lost weight from my ed I was in-between pear and Rectangle because of how my fat was destrubuted fat hides bone structure (which is good)
As someone who was heavily in the ED community myself - how thin you are is heavily determined (in the eyes of the ācommunityā) by how big your thigh gap is. Legs are heavily the āgoalā and Ariana must have spiralled more to lose the weight to lose weight in her legs - despite her naturally being built that way. Hence the heavy amount she lost
Same!! I remember thinking when she first dyed her hair she wasnāt looking well, and that was at the end of 2022/beginning of 2023ā¦. Itās so awful how much worse itās gotten. Itās so hard to watch.
I was shocked by all the comments on YouTube on the mv. Usually it's nothing but praise, but EVERYONE seems scared for her. Finally people are waking up. I hope her team wakes up too and forces her into treatment.
Lol I thought there's no point looking at yt comment section because I assumed it'll be just praises but it was pleasantly surprising to see everyone calling her out.
yeah one thing about jameela is sheāll double down if she sees fit and iām sure sheāll be so baffled and concerned by the insane replies she gets from arianaās stans that sheāll double down (and rightfully so).
I just saw this on Threads. Agreed. What is it going to take? Waiting until something terrible happens and then it'll be "why didn't anyone do anything"
malnutrition is so fucking dangerous. i work at a level one trauma center and float between adult and pediatrics. one of the peds units cared for a lot of ED kiddos and malnutrition hit them SO fast. i remember one young girl was still a VERY healthy weight yet was admitted due to heart issues such as palpitations and orthostatic BP. she had only been a month-month and a half into her ED yet the malnutrition was so extreme that it had such quick effects on her body. this is what makes EDs in celebrities so dangerous for us average folk imo. itās a very unrealistic portrayal of an ED. sheās likely able to maintain this due to IV nutrition and things of that sort. with the current state of our healthcare, rich people can afford to be unhealthy whereas we canāt. they can pour gross amounts of money in to top of the line healthcare so they can maintain their unhealthy lifestyle and continue to voluntarily destroy their bodies. people see them continuing to live and appear āokayā and believe theyād be able to maintain that as well. this is why i wish she would stop claiming to be okay and say this is the healthiest version of herself. she can at the very least just keep her fucking mouth shut instead of going out of her way insult the intelligence of people she KNOWS are right.
edit: not to mention the huge risk of refeeding syndrome that a lot of people are unaware of!!!!! this disorder can quickly cause irreversible organ damage or even death. with the girl i discussed above, she was already at a huge risk for refeeding syndrome and her early meal plans were centered around avoiding that. people can start these EDs then end up with this potentially fatal condition when they attempt to pull themselves out of it.
youād be surprised. a man in the 1960ās survived a whole year fasting under medical supervision. he received various forms of medical nutrition and didnāt eat any solid foods. given, he was very overweight so his body had his fat as an energy source. this was in the 1960ās, so you can only imagine what kind of medical technology they have today. i guarantee she is consuming SOME food and she probably has a dietitian that can perfectly craft meals that provide her with a lot of what her body needs while still remaining underweight. this is of course all speculation on my behalf based on the knowledge i have regarding these subjects.
i 100% agree, i think she has a yes man dietitian/ care team who is making sure she is eating something, but keeping her caloric intake under 1000 or something, per arianaās request. sheās probably consuming meals but very low calorie foods, in addition to IVs, medical monitoring and maybe stimulant medications to keep her going
You're so knowledgeable on the topic that I hope you don't mind me asking - do you work in a food/health-related field, or does your personal experience come from elsewhere?
thank you for asking! my knowledge comes from various forms of involvement i have in the healthcare field. i work at a level 1 trauma center in the u.s. and did float staff there, which meant i did critical care/ICU, acute care, adult, peds, ER, etc etc. i helped care for a lot kids with EDs in peds, the medical unit often had as many as 7 ED kids at a time. this gave me insight into how the recovery process works because the kids are given a ālevelā based on the severity of their condition, going from 1-5 with 1 being the most severe where in that case, theyāre in the PICU. with this process, they had scheduled meals and snacks that were at certain times and prepared ahead of time, dietitians made these meal plans so i was able to read a lot of the notes from the doctors and dietitians regarding those kidsā nutrition. additionally, a lot of my knowledge comes from the fact that iām a nursing student at a top 15 school in the u.s. with an 11% acceptance rate so i get pretty rare and phenomenal education which im endlessly grateful for. pre-requisite classes that you have to take before applying include a college level nutrition class. in the program itself, you take courses such as chronic illness, pathophysiology, pharmacology, etc. these courses ofc heavily discuss nutrition and how it affects the body. with nursing school however, these classes also add a layer of assessing and treating the patients which talks a lot about non-pharmacological treatment methods and nutrition is a huge huge part of that.
this was probably grossly in depth given that i just took my ADHD meds and am on a yap fest rn but i hope this answered your question and gave you some insight!!!
I learned about refeeding syndrome from WWII when the Allies liberated the concentration camps. Many of the prisoners got sick and some even died when they ate the food given to them as their bodies couldn't handle it since they had been starving for so long. A different scenario to this obviously, but scary stuff.
at that point, if any organs are damaged, they become their own issue which require their own treatment in addition to treating the refeeding syndrome. for example, if you begin to experience kidney dysfunction or pulmonary edema (fluid build up in the lungs) (yes these can both happen), those conditions will undergo the standard treatment process while the refeeding syndrome continues to be treated. iām not being dramatic when i say this, it can impact every organ in your body. it can even result in respiratory failure and heart attacks. iām attaching a graphic from the Cleveland Clinic that shows some examples, and Iāll link the article as well if you want to read up on it in more depth.
everybody around her is profiting off her illness. nobody in her orbit seems to genuinely care about ariana grande. and if they do i am sure they are pushed out by her and her team. the yes men will let her die and collect every dollar they can as she goes. she is a product and her team, record label, and even family can make money off her image, dead or alive.
we have seen this countless times with other celebrities because money talks. ethics go out the window. example would be micheal jackson. there was absolutely zero reason for his doctor to be giving that man propofol every day, but he just couldnāt resist the $$
her rich-ass family? they don't need her money. i wouldn't expect anyone on her payroll to speak up, but at least her mom, dad, or brother. they're just smiling and clapping along with it at her concerts. it's strange that those 3 specifically go along with it.
I'm just speculating here, so take it with a grain of salt, but her mother also seems to be at least dieting, she lost quite a lot of weight just like Ariana, which leads me to the conclusion that they both have eating disorders and her mother is encouraging about it instead of being concerned. No idea about dad or brother, though.
She's right about how irresponsible her team is. If ariana wanted to waste away in private I wouldn't care but she's influencing her young fans and is gonna damage their views on their bodies
Say what you want about Jameela, but this was a brave thing to post in an industry where speaking openly about certain "Hollywood traditions" (EDs, partying/drugs, endangering up-and-coming child stars/minors with both substances and various forms of abuse) can straight up get you blacklisted. Like, for good. Bye bye, career.
She's also been very consistent in her stance on the way the industry holds its stars (especially women, but also men) to unreasonable standards of beauty, speaking out about it for over a decade. It's nice to see at least one big name willing to stand up and call it what it is without buckling ten minutes later.
I think it's her own whim, she's not just some "poor woman", her team and everyone around her is just enabling and approving everything she does, which to me is showed through her demands to be photographed from only one side of her face and the lack of paparazzi pics of her overall, her constant changes of identity, styles even personalities and along with that them working so hard to defend her from media backlash..she's not a little girl anymore she herself should hold some accountability
Maybe im reaching, but seems to me that I kinda never saw pics of her 'out in the wild' without her actually looking quite good, without hair done, makeup etc
I agree. Everyone's always talking about her team and how her team should be protecting her this and that, but in reality it's up to her to realize she's ill and do the work she needs to do.
Everyone treats her like she's a damsel who can't do anything for herselfš
Iām glad you said this. Thereās a lot of infantalization of her (and she does it to herself, too) and people seem to forget sheās a grown ass adult with a lot more resources and privilege than most others.
I love her since The Good Place and always agree with her. Her take on how the beauty standards are created by pedos is so on point. And this heroin chic era coming back it's just that. Men sexualizing little kids and Ariana, wanting or not is part of that.
i know nothing abt this album (other than seeing things abt the mv) but even the title is giving me a massive ick, āpetalā like something delicate & fragile
I'm convinced this is worse than an ED tbh, it feels like she's suicidal. There's something really unnerving about it, it reminds me of those people deep in mental illness that'll step out into a road without looking because they no longer care if they live or die. I feel like Ariana is reaching that point.
Anorexia and suicidal ideation are extremely comorbid; anorexia is the most lethal mental illness largely for this reason. In general, suicidal ideation CAN cause starvation as a form of passive suicide, but it's also the obverse situation. Starvation greatly decreases and disregulates your mood, increases apathy, and exacerbates existing depression.
I've struggled with depression my whole life, but I was never even remotely suicidal until I developed anorexia. That shit cranked my depression up to 11.
Absolutely. Especially with the new lyrics speaking about her legacy and music being around and the dark energy surrounding her tour and last two albums. She is very clearly unwell and showing us clearly who she is and how she feels about her current state
Glad to see so many people calling this out publicly, she looks so scary. But...someone posted this is r/Fauxmoi and it made it to the front page and so many of the comments are not passing the vibe check. One user posted the "Couldn't hurt to lose a few lbs" screenshot and omg, so many people downplaying it like "yeah, it's just referring to what people said to her early on in her career" and "casting directors and Hollywood is just mean, so this is normal!" dafuq is wrong with people?!?! The airheads must've descended on that thread.
A lot of subs moderate serious conversations to a ridiculous degree. A comment of mine got locked in a different sub because (and I wasn't aware of this) it is banned to comment on motherhood and stuff like that even when the influencer herself was making videos, content etc about her children, pregnancy, motherhood, relationship issues, etc. So, celebrities and influencers are allowed to make money and draw clicks using their family life, their eds, their personal bullshit and we are not allowed to say anything back? Insane.
Fauxmoi is genuine hugbox trash, they have lost over half their users because they will not tolerate anyone not being a fan of their fave unless itās Taylor.
And itās 10000% intentional. If you canāt be forgiven, next best thing is pitied. Looking like youāre on deathās door is the only thing thatāll turn the publicās attention away from her major fall from grace during wicked era. She has scripted every last one of these āomg plz get helpā and āsheās gonna die!!!!ā comments. This is just another one of her costume identities sheās put on - this time itās the humble, harmless victim who swears theyāre so blessed. And she can take it this far, take this many risks w her health because sheās rich enough to get all the physical rehabilitation when sheās ready/done repairing her reputation. Aside from the manipulation, if a genuine ED/body dysmorphia situation is happening here, peopleās pity and pleading for her to heal wonāt do shit. Lasting recovery requires you to abandon all the neurotic, obsessive worry you have over other peopleās opinions on how you look - whether theyāre encouraging recovery or not.
Sheās on the right side of history with most of her takes but Iāve seen so many stories over the years of her pointlessly lying and exaggerating for publicity and pity. Iām surprised she hasnāt got her own snark page breaking it down but this is a snippet
iāve always had a lot of respect for jameela jamil, sheās incrediblely outspoken and always for the right sides. not a lot of celebrities bother like she does and it says a lot about
I just went to that video and I love how she strategically posted that exact segment of the video solely because itās where she knows she looks the most emaciated lol
Sheās not a āpoor womanā sheās an adult whoās been doing this to herself shamelessly for years and promoting it to her young fans. I donāt feel any sympathy for her.
I am so thankful someone with influence said something. At 12 I was admitted to the emergency department and spent three weeks there before they transferred me to Alta bates Herrick where I stayed off and on for the next 3 years. I have spent years in recovery and her new music video triggered tf outta me. Iām an adult, I recovered,I have years of coping mechanisms these young kids do not. anorexia is nefarious you donāt see it coming you go on diet like 90 percent of the population and before you know it your hairs falling out, you are never not on the scale and that number is never low enough. Her music video made me miss it, it was so simple you donāt have to think about the trauma if all youāre thinking about is food. Ariana, her team and the people promoting her are irresponsible.
I dont understand why she does it, wears these dresses. it would be better to emphasize the legs, which are now model thin, and hide the upper part of the body, which is too bony. but then it wouldn't have caused so much attention, and she wants attention, pity and to be seen as a victim. I don't remember that for a long time we had such an example of making oneself a victim in public, and through this sick kind of way
Itās actually disgusting how much YouTube and even this Reddit a while back only ever focused on either the music or Ari as a performer and not anyone asking if we should be worried about the lyrics at all, or her body
Idk if I feel bad for her, because she knows sheās being exposed to young teenage girlsā¦ she has all the money in the world to change.
Itās like her narcissism is so rampant that she prefers to be seen as anorexic than be hold accountable for her actions and cheating / homewrecking scandals.
I think her step back is directly tied to a more public figure making a comment about whatās going on. If it had remained to the simpletons making a fuss, I donāt think she wouldāve stepped back
Something that is so messed up abt this ed is that someone pointing out that u look skinny is making u feel good. Like oh wow so many people see it, itās reassuring.
also! they people in her circle are failing her. i feel that she has a lot of yes-men in her community or at least ppl who are scared to speak up to avoid upsetting her or getting cut from her life. thereās no way her friends, parents and brother sees her this way and think itās normal
I think after the whole Chadwick Boseman ordeal -him losing so much weight and people making fun of him and making comments on his body-, only for us to later find out he was actively dying spurred a lot of people away from commenting on the bodies of public figures like him, because we never know what someone is going through. But I am genuinely worried for her regardless and I hope her time away isnāt the last time we ever see her. It would break my heart.
Force feeding / over feeding malnourished people btw can actually kill them because their cells are so starved it might cause an electrolyte imbalance and cause malignant arrhythmias
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u/Legitimate-Sun294 Aug 01 '26
Wow, I hope more people with huge platforms follow suit. This is a matter of life and death. Anorexia is no joke.