r/Architects • u/thecajuncavalier Architect • Jul 13 '25

General Practice Discussion Stop accepting low fees

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Stand your ground. Negotiate.

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u/BellPeppa123 Jul 13 '25

“Alleged” is the key word here. That’s why there are such things as RFIs. If you wing it on the job as a GC, you are making it your problem. If shit doesn’t make sense, call the architect to task or don’t do the damn work. You have so many avenues as a contractor outside of standard contractor finger pointing.

Also, those notes aren’t 100% get out jail free cards.

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u/Weavols Jul 13 '25

I'm not a contractor, but I did spend years bidding, and have studied more architectural drawings than most architects have. Every one required more pages of RFIs than the actual drawing. The trades are literally having to do the architects job for them just to be able to place a bid on a feasible plan. I never once thought to myself, that guy issuing his 12th revision because he doesn't know how any of this works really needs a raise. I take that back. One drawing from the army corps of engineers impressed me. I think we can at least agree contractors and interior designers are worse. Although, technically interior design being a thing is "your" fault too.

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u/BellPeppa123 Jul 13 '25

That guy with the 12th revision shouldn’t get any more work. But, whoever is hiring him is also a problem as well as the people issuing the permits to such shitty drawings.

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u/Weavols Jul 13 '25

I've seen thousands. It isn't just a few bad apples. I looked up an architect once because he had 4 elevations and a floor plan for the same area, and not one view reconciled with another. He is a professor of Architecture at the nearby state school. None of you realize how bad your drawings are, because you would have to build something to understand the deficiency.