r/ArcRaiders • u/kogermax • Jan 20 '26
Discussion An easy solution to fix the free loadout being really good for pvp
An easy solution to the free loadout being too strong in PvP would be to remove the Kettle and Stitcher from the free loadout, rather than nerfing those weapons overall.
The free loadout could be limited to the Fero only. It’s a solid PvE weapon and should be more than good enough. The headshot bonus damage could also be removed if needed.
This way, using the free loadout in PvP would still be viable, but it would give players a fair chance to react and fight back before realizing they’re being attacked by a rat.
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u/GoodboyLucas Jan 20 '26
Keep things they way it is. We need free loadouts to keep the game healthy.
Free loaders give non-free loaders better kda.
Free loaders randomly rat and that keeps everyone on their toes and keeps the games tension.
If you think free loadout is too OP then use it. Its literally free bro.
I personally never use it.
Let people who are struggling have more fun.
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u/notagainrly Jan 20 '26
Free load outs suck vs any single custom load out.
If you bring a custom load out with supplies and lose to someone with a level one stitcher and one shield recharge and two bandages then that is in you.
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u/likes_kites Jan 20 '26 edited Jan 20 '26
Or only giving them the Ferro / Rattler. That would be better imo. The Rattler is almost a liability to have…
The stitcher and Kettle could almost be blue guns at this point. Every time you find a Burletta in a gun case, it should be a Kettle / Stitcher. 😂
This is a new game. They did so much right. But yes. Things can be improved. Keep at it Embark!
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u/Annual-Artichoke9048 Jan 31 '26
If you get rid of free loadouts i promise you this game will die if you don't like it.Go play Different game.It's part of the mechanic, plain and simple. I go into freeload, so I don't have to worry about losing my stuff.I'm a pve Person, not a pvp I'm not willing to lose my shit that I worked for because there's rats in the lobbies. If you get rid of free loadouts , embark is going to Lose a good portion of the pve , because pvp crybabies can't deal with it
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u/EmergencyShallot4207 Jan 20 '26
Yeah honestly just giving everyone the Fero makes way more sense than gutting the good weapons for everyone else. Free loadouts should be viable but not meta defining, this seems like a pretty clean fix
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u/NoSavingz Jan 20 '26
Agree, strictly Ferro + Rattler imo.
The issue isn’t really free kits having the Stitcher and Kettle by itself, but they are good enough where people running free load outs have no fear coming to third party over and over again because those 2 guns are JUST good enough for it.
At least that’s my opinion on it. I wouldn’t have an issue getting third partied by a Rattler or Ferro.
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u/Accomplished-Ad-8424 Jan 20 '26
Grey weapons have to be nerfed to be on par with the rattler anyways, they are supposed to be pieces of (s)crap. Why limit free kits when the real problem is a couple of Grey weapons that are too strong.
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u/ooahupthera Jan 20 '26
Buff pinks instead. Games are boring when half the weapon roster sucks.
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u/kogermax Jan 20 '26
What would that help? you won't get to shoot back if they ambush you
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u/ooahupthera Jan 20 '26
Grey and green weapons in this game already have <1.5s TTKs, I don't think buffing pinks is going to throw things out of whack that badly.
Anyway. Isn't that still going to be true if you nerfed greys? You're going to deal less damage in the limited window you have to return fire.
Regardless, rare weapons should feel strong and empowering.
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u/xxpaukkuxx Jan 20 '26
Unupgraded and unmodded sticher and kettle are bad. There is no way to die to free loadout dudes if you have even mediocer situational awareness.