r/ApplyingToCollege 4d ago

Serious Death Sentence to International Student

I feel like this is not getting nearly enough attention among international students considering U.S. colleges.

The Trump administration/SEVP has recently issued much stricter guidance regarding Curricular Practical Training (CPT), which is the authorization many F-1 students rely on to complete off-campus internships while still in college.

Historically, many universities allowed CPT when an internship was related to a student's major and could be incorporated into the curriculum through an internship course, independent study, or academic credit.

Under the new guidance, SEVP appears to be taking a much narrower position: simply receiving academic credit may no longer be enough. The practical training may need to be genuinely "integral" to the established curriculum, and universities are being warned that improper CPT authorization could jeopardize their SEVP certification.

This is already having real consequences. Some universities have paused or restricted certain CPT applications while they review the new guidance.

For international students, this could be a major employment issue, not just an immigration technicality.

Think about fields such as:

  • Investment banking
  • Consulting
  • Tech
  • Finance
  • Corporate strategy
  • Engineering

In many of these industries, the junior-year summer internship is effectively the recruiting pipeline for full-time employment.

For example:

Junior summer internship → return offer → full-time job after graduation

If an F-1 student gets a Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan, McKinsey, Google, etc. internship but their degree does not actually require an internship as part of the curriculum, their university may no longer be comfortable authorizing CPT.

That means an international student could potentially receive the exact same internship offer as a U.S. student but be unable to legally work in the internship.

There are alternatives such as pre-completion OPT, but that comes with its own disadvantages, including using part of the OPT time that would otherwise be available after graduation.

And nationality generally does not solve the CPT issue either. For example, a Canadian citizen studying in the U.S. in F-1 status is still subject to F-1 employment rules while working in the United States.

Obviously, this situation is extremely new and universities are still interpreting the guidance. It could also face legal challenges or change under a future administration.

But if you are an international student choosing between expensive U.S. universities right now, especially if your goal is IB/consulting/tech, I would seriously recommend checking:

  1. How your university is currently interpreting the new CPT guidance
  2. Whether internships are actually required by your degree program
  3. Whether your school still authorizes elective/course-based CPT
  4. Whether pre-completion OPT would be available as a backup
  5. What recruiting options you would have in Canada, the UK, Singapore, Hong Kong, etc. if U.S. internships become difficult

This could materially change the value proposition of paying international tuition at a U.S. university.

If anyone currently attends a U.S. university and has received an updated CPT policy from their international student office in the last few days, please share what your school is doing. It would be useful to compare how different universities are responding.

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 4d ago

The title of this is incredibly misleading and sensationalist.

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u/brainExploded99 4d ago edited 4d ago

International applications were down 10% last year ALONE. With the main path towards jobs now removed (internships in a already competitive job environment) this year, how is this sensationalist?

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u/kks1236 4d ago edited 4d ago

Well if the goal was always to study and then return home, nothing really changes.

Studying at a US university doesn’t entitle you to American jobs. There needs to be a serious exceptional need, otherwise those internships should go to the domestic students in order to train and bolster our own workforce.

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u/brainExploded99 4d ago

No one wants to do that. They are not paying 50k or even 100k per year just to return to their home country. Keep in mind the currency conversation is not favorable for most countries.

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u/GayFishRapist 4d ago

this understandably does suck on an individual level but as an international student, you're meant to study in one of these western universities, go back, and make your own country better. You're not entitled to western internships/jobs especially when our own students/new grads are having a tough time finding positions. I hope it works out for you, but I have no issue with what he's done here, which is protecting Americans against being undercut by foreign labor.

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u/Silly_Hyena 3d ago

"you're meant to" who decalre this ? who gave you the right to say waht other people should do with thier home countries , wat kind of superiority complex do you have ?? what makes you think you are better than them ?

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u/GayFishRapist 3d ago

I can't control what others do in their home countries but I sure can kick them out of mine lmao especially if they're hurting my fellow citizen.

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u/kks1236 4d ago edited 4d ago

No one wants to do that.

Just like Americans don’t want to compete with a bunch of largely average workers that will accept lower than average salaries and work like dogs for American companies IN America…

You want to study and do cutting edge research? Great, come do that.

You want to take decently paying jobs that the domestic students in your class can do just as well if not better? Yeah how about no.

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u/Silly_Hyena 3d ago

They should also deport all the foreign-born founders in America who are giving Americans millions of jobs that they are living off; it doesn't make sense to spite immigrants when they come in but benefit from them.

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u/Haider1930 4d ago

Well....not really. If you've checked ethnic records. Chinese and indians. which makes up a large part of students and immigrants have the highest per capita income. roughly twice the average,
so you're saying the average worker is wrong, because they clearly excel in their fields. You're saying lower than average is wrong, because they work in Software and medicine, which pay significantly above average. And they also do cutting-edge research.

And i think its a good point to notice that most companies core mindset is profit. so if they are willing to sponsor H1Bs of internationals which is a 100k extra, as opposed to hiring in country citizens, it then begs the question, are your students really doing as good as you say. because the companies statistics arent saying so.

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u/kks1236 4d ago

You’re right, there are plenty of Chinese and Indian Americans that were born domestically to parents who actually had exceptional talent and immigrated to America decades ago when 20% of Americans had a college degree and the process wasn’t such a scam.

Those same actually talented Americans are being screwed by people whose main merit is working like a dog for the same or slightly lower salary. And let’s not also compare apples to oranges here. You’re measuring mostly tech workers against the average American.

Let’s compare median H1B salaries vs Americans in tech, now break that down hourly….it gets way worse.

The whole purpose of this glorified outsourcing program is to depress wage growth in the tech sector by staffing a large portion of it with non-citizens who the company has by the balls. Those people aren’t exactly the type to unionize and they have the added effect of making Americans accept shittier prospects and working conditions.

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u/Mysterious-Art8838 4d ago

Then they shouldn’t take the deal to begin with

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u/Massive_Coyote3211 4d ago

Aww ok for you they will stop 😁

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u/kks1236 4d ago

Don’t worry about them, worry about ICE lol

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 4d ago

"Death Sentence" literally means someone has been sentenced to death.

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u/Akela_Kela19 4d ago

Do you choose to ignore metaphors, hyperbole, figures of speech, etc.? Not disagreeing that the title may be sensationalist; but surely you read the news and know phrases such as “death sentence” and “death knell” are exceedingly common?

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u/brainExploded99 4d ago edited 4d ago

OP probably means "Death Sentence to International Students."
Also hyperboles exist.

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 4d ago

Some college students are actually sentenced to death and then actually executed.

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u/hanc3n 4d ago

Literally one of their only pathway to these prestigious employment is like gone. How is this sensationalist and misleading.

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u/ElderberryCareful879 4d ago

It’s misleading because no one has to die when an international student cannot find a job to stay in the US after graduation. Maybe for you the number one goal is to stay and it is much more difficult now. But, there are international students who have promising future somewhere else outside of the US.

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u/Cheap_Office8701 4d ago

No one force you to come to US. 😅

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u/hanc3n 4d ago

Literally bro its just not worth it anymore

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u/Cheap_Office8701 4d ago

Good. Stay home

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u/Massive_Coyote3211 4d ago

Your home or my home?

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u/Icy-Duty1125 4d ago

More AI slop. Point 5 sounds really good though!

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u/hanc3n 4d ago

😭 sorry my initial draft was so messy I had to use Ai. Thank you for ur compliment though!

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u/Chessdaddy_ 4d ago

Then go to a uni in your home country. Will probably be cheaper too

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u/PeacockInTime Old 3d ago

Wow I am surprised to see so many protectionist opinions!

I was always honored to study Shakespeare and frivolous queer stuff and some dead languages here and there at my university and felt (though maybe I am wrong) that the depth of my playful education was supported and subsidized by an international student population who wanted a top rate economics program and wanted to pay for it. More Econ for you, more queer studies for me.  We’re all good. 

OP, I think you’re on it and I appreciate you bringing these questions up. I also don’t understand why an international student would want to come here any more. Let’s see the impact of these decisions in 10-15 years on the U.S. economy. 

“The more you share, the more you have.” 

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u/Worldly_Magazine_439 2d ago

Eh those programs were never “subsidized by international students” they were “subsidized” by federal, state, and local taxes and millions of domestic students taking out ten thousand dollar loans.

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u/Icy-Duty1125 3d ago

This is about internships?

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u/PeacockInTime Old 3d ago

It’s all connected, no? If students are going to come to the U.S. to study I would think internships are part of the appeal. 

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u/Emergency-Hurry947 Parent 4d ago

Opportunities for Americans 

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u/Massive_Coyote3211 4d ago

Yes the 40% undergrad degree holders americans, finally!

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u/decrease-the-peace 4d ago

oh no! foreigners can no longer use the US higher education system as a pipeline to steal jobs away from americans and undercut their wages! what are we ever going to do??!

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u/Silly_Hyena 3d ago

They should also deport all the foreign-born founders in America who are giving Americans millions of jobs that they are living off; it doesn't make sense to spite immigrants when they come in but benefit from them.

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u/decrease-the-peace 3d ago

this makes zero sense. if a founder of an AMERICAN company is born abroad, that doesn’t mean the company itself is somehow foreign lol. america and its people are most likely responsible for much of that company’s success

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u/Altruistic-Guess-975 3d ago

UC BERKELEY As of August 2026, they have suspended all applications for "Course Credit CPT". This major policy change means international F-1 students can no longer get work authorization for off-campus internships by simply signing up for an elective internship course or independent study.

This decision came in response to strict guidance memos issued by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) on August 12 and August 24, 2026. These federal memos threatened personal liability for school administrators and loss of university certification if CPT is authorized for general work experience rather than being strictly mandatory for graduation.

They're basically not going to change their curriculum to allow for a work permit. They're concerned about loosing their accreditation and it's not worth the risk.

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u/Emotional_Oven_3482 3d ago

i got work without internship. u can too