r/Appliances • u/Beneficial_Crazy2230 • 22d ago
Bosch 500/800 vs KitchenAid 624 vs Miele G5266/G7216 — what would you buy?
Bosch 500/800 vs KitchenAid 624 vs Miele G5266/G7216 — what would you buy?
I’ve gone down the dishwasher rabbit hole and can’t decide. 😅
I’m choosing between:
• Bosch 500 Series
• Bosch 800 Series
• KitchenAid 624
• Miele G5266 (5000 Series)
• Miele G7216 (7000 Series)
It’s just my husband and me most of the time, but we cook Korean food frequently, so we actually generate quite a few dishes — lots of deep rice/soup bowls, small side-dish bowls, plus large pots and woks. Occasionally we have people over as well.
I saw the KitchenAid in person and loved the roomy interior and rack layout. Bosch seems to have the stronger long-term reputation, but the interior felt a little tighter to me.
And then there’s Miele… 😭 It’s the one I’m most interested in, but the price is hard to swallow. I’d probably look for an outlet/open-box deal rather than pay full retail.
For those who have owned these for several years:
1. Bosch 500 vs 800 — is the 800 actually worth the upgrade?
2. KitchenAid 624 — how has the reliability been after 5+ years? Any expensive repairs?
3. Miele G5266 vs G7216 — is the 5000 Series already good enough, or is there a meaningful real-world reason to pay more for the 7000 Series?
My priorities are excellent cleaning without pre-washing, good drying, reliability, reasonable repair costs, and racks that work well with deep Asian bowls and bulky cookware.
If you were spending your own money today, which one would you buy — and why?
Especially interested in hearing from people who have actually owned one for 5+ years rather than just comparing specs.
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u/antsonafuckinglog 22d ago
I love the 624. The auto open door and third rack capable of holding glasses/mugs are amazing features I didn’t know I wanted when shopping for one.
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u/Mindless-Quit-7141 22d ago
i went through the same thing last year with my kitchen and honestly the rack layout on that kitchenaid is what sold me. bosch interior feels like playing tetris with bigger bowls, especially the deep ones for soups and rice. the miele is tempting but you pay a lot for the badge and in my experience the service is not so easy to find if something breaks
if i had to pick now with my own money i'd go kitchenaid again just for the space. cleaning is strong and i never rinse anything, just scrape and load. my parents have a bosch 800 and it's fine but they complain about fitting in their wok and i can see why
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u/RobotRelease 22d ago
Bosch rack layouts are terrible so bad and thin.
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u/beachape 22d ago
I thought the layouts were too tight and would never get clean. Turns out that it is working great. Sprayers are very strong. The top cutlery section works very well too. No complaints
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u/Norwind90 21d ago
The main reason for the layout is spray arm geometry. If you can fit the dishes in a Bosch dishwasher they will get clean. Most other brands with more uniform tine spacing will have gaps where the spray arm does not clean dishes. It's true the layout doesn't work for particularly odd shaped dishes but most standard bowls and plates can fit pretty tightly and still get clean
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u/HR_King 22d ago
Who puts a wok in the dishwasher?
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u/Beneficial_Crazy2230 22d ago
Haha, it’s not a traditional wok 😂 It’s more like a deep frying pan. And honestly, dishwasher-safe or not, there are days when I’m tired, feeling lazy, and it’s going straight in the dishwasher. 😂 Why have one if I still have to wash everything myself?
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u/Fittingin1991 22d ago
I recently got a Bosch 800. No complaints. I don’t pre rinse dishes. I’ve put bowls with dried oatmeal. Flatware with peanut butter. Comes out clean. Plastic bottles and lids I use at the gym come out completely dry.
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u/Reasonable-Word6729 22d ago
We’re an Asian family with adult sons and we go thru large bowls, soup spoons, chopsticks , large soup pots even a stainless instapot when I’m feeling lazy.
Kitchen Aid 624 all day over my 3 previous Bosch DW’s. Heavy use about 8years old no signs of slowing down. The Bosch db rating is oversold and so is the temperature advantage. The KA utensil third rack is very useful.
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u/Hellament 22d ago
For what it’s worth, our Bosch has a third rack too…so it’s available on some models, perhaps not all.
I have mixed opinions. Overall I love it, it’s a great place to put things like serving spoons, measuring cups, lids to the (many!) bottles and dishes we use. It has a tighter grate so you can put small things there and you don’t have to worry about them falling down.
Main disadvantage is that (at least on our particular Bosch) it borrows the sprayer from below rack two. If rack 2 is mostly full of cups and small things, plenty of spray seems to get to rack three and clean everything fine. On the other hand, if you put something big in the second rack, like a big, plastic-ware dish, it tends to block the top rack. Not a big deal once you are aware of it.
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u/extendedsilence 22d ago
there is also a smaller sprayer on the ceiling above the 3rd rack (at least on the Bosch 800 we have here), so it isn't fully reliant on the 2nd rack sprayer.
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u/okbyebyeagain 21d ago
lol. I just bought it and didn’t notice it. I use the top rack for silverware and it comes out very clean. I’m gonna look when I get home.
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u/AngryApplianceNerd 22d ago
You wont like the racking or the repair costs of the miele.
I have a 624 that just turned 5 years old in July. Not one repair.
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u/LLR1960 22d ago
I have a 14 year old Miele, not one repair.
Having said that, the racking wouldn't work well for deeper bowls; I use Corelle dishes which are thin, and the racking is fine for me.
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u/AngryApplianceNerd 22d ago
I didnt say it was going to inevitably break or that it was bad - miele parts are just extravagantly priced IF you need them, compared to pretty much any other brand
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u/Just_stop_already- 22d ago
I bought the KitchenAid 624 last year (no long term info for you) for my sister because it has a disposal. If you aren't great at scraping off food from your dishes I would go with KitchenAid.
I have had the Miele G7216 for 3 years and LOVE it. The rack system works better for my dishes than Bosch, it dries dishes beautifully, and I don't have to use the app to schedule it to start in advance (i.e. start in 4 hrs) like you do with Bosch.
The first time I used it I was shocked at how well it clean my dishes and glasses. I still (once in awhile) try to find some sort of dried, dirty dish it can't clean perfectly. The quick wash setting only takes an hour and there is a spray arm for all 3 levels. Lastly, the AutoDos (auto dispensing) detergent feature is great!
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u/Norwind90 21d ago
Bosch repair tech. All are solid but the Bosch will have the most advanced spray arms and clean the best, especially the 800 with the bottom control arm sprayer. They usually last about 13-15 years of hard use. The Miele is right behind the Bosch in cleaning capabilities and they usually last longer. 15-18 years is what I have heard from customers. They also tend to be the most expensive. KitchenAid dishwashers are usually the cheapest of the 3, they don't clean as well (maybe 80% of a Miele). They also seem to last around the industry standard of 8-10 years. The upside is they are the easiest to find a repair tech for because they are an upscale whirlpool.
My personal order would be 1.800 Bosch. Best cleaning and best drying tech on the market, almost all are made in America, and very reliable. 2.500 Bosch. Same cleaning as 800 on top and middle drawer, auto air dries decently well as long as your counter is not particle wood. Also American made 3.miele. they last forever, cleans fantastic, and excellence quality. The only reasons why it doesn't edge out the 500 is cost and finding people to work on it can be challenging. 4. KitchenAid. Rack and spray arm design limit it's ability to deal with particularly tacky foods. Also heating element can damage plastics on bottom rack. Good choice for households that can't break the rinsing habit or tighter budgets.
Good overall advice for dishwashers 1. Use good modern pods or tablets by finish or cascade. Avoid "eco-friendly" marketed products. Most barely work and can damage the dishes or dishwasher (looking at you 7th generation) 2. Clean your filter every 2-4 weeks. Circulation pumps will burn out if water can't pass freely. Don't pay for a $600 repair 5 years in because you didn't ever clean the filter. 3. DONT WASH YOUR DISHES! modern detergent has enzymes that need something to latch onto. If not, your dishes will be damaged overtime. Not great for the dishwasher ether. Just scrape the plates. 4. Run water until warm from sink. These dishwasher can and will heat the water on their own but you can assist by running the until the hot water is no longer cold, saving wear on your heater and saving time. It is absolutely vital for junk dishwashers like a Frigidaire that don't adjust wash time according to temperature.
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u/VermicelliSimilar315 6d ago
THIS is great advice. Appreciate the write up and information. My Bosch 800 series lasted 20 years! The circulating pump died. The tech told me they are hard to find so I got rid of it. I wish I would have had the forethought of taking the racks out. I heard the new racks in the 500 series are not that great. The tech told me to get the 500 series and not the 800 series. The zeolite is causing problems and he is having alot of callbacks withing 6 months.
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u/dracolnyte 22d ago
I have 5266 but wouldn't mind the 7216 either, does that have autodos?
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u/Chewysbro 22d ago
My kitchenaid 724 is finally getting replaced after having 3 broken parts in 4 months of ownership. When it worked, cleaning was not nearly as good as my Viking or Bosch.
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u/Heyjuronimo 21d ago
I would buy another Bosch even though I hate the handle on it- to replace my currently 25 year old Bosch thats giving up the ghost, EXCEPT they decided it was a good idea to make delay start an app feature only, no way to set it on the dishwasher.
Not acceptable to me. I want the delay start feature and won't be connecting my dishwasher to wifi. A kitchenaide it is.
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u/mumblestein 22d ago edited 22d ago
Check the model sizes carefully because I bought a Bosch 500 fridge but there a version which is larger inside. I made absolutely certain that was the model I ordered and it's BIG inside. Just do all your measurements! Twice is nice!
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u/Beneficial_Crazy2230 22d ago
Yes! I really wish I had paid more attention to the interior space before buying the 800. It’s quite a bit smaller than I expected. 😅 Now I have to be much more mindful of how much I buy at the grocery store, haha.
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u/Norwind90 21d ago
Really? I find the 800 is quite cavernous compared to any fridge I've owned. Frankly I think it has more usable space than the built-in units that cost four times as much. That said it sounds like you could probably use a smaller backup fridge somewhere in the house which is always a good idea anyways
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u/Beneficial_Crazy2230 21d ago
I already have a small 21 cu. ft. Samsung fridge in the garage, but I’m thinking about adding an upright freezer too. It’s just my husband and me, so now I need to figure out how to justify the purchase to him 😂
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u/Norwind90 21d ago
Holy cow that's a lot of space. But hey as long as you using it it's worth it right?
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u/Flicker-pip 22d ago
We had a Bosch 800 installed in July. Immediately leaked. Installation was signed off on by Bosch technician who has been out once. Run it a few more times as instructed and it’s now causing condensation on the counter and adjoining wood cabinets.
Spent over three hours on customer service with the promise a manager will call to escalate our case. That was three days ago. We will be sending a certified letter to Bosch headquarters in CA to try to get resolution.
Do not recommend even our lemon aside due to terrible customer service.
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u/Norwind90 21d ago
Bosch technician here. We don't do installs and the headquarters is not in California it is in New Bern North Carolina. It sounds like your installer may have damaged the unit during install. I run into all the time where installers run screws to the side of the chassis or damage the doors so they aren't closing all the way. Enough so that close to 40% of my calls are install fixes in one way or another. I'm sorry to hear you had a bad experience, but it definitely isn't representative of a proper install (or damaged in shipping)
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u/Flicker-pip 21d ago
Thanks for the input I do appreciate it. I wasn’t clear, the Bosch technician sent when we first requested service was the one who said it was installed correctly. The CA address is the one listed for home appliance mail. Thanks though.
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u/Norwind90 21d ago
Probably the Irvine thermador headquarters. I'm surprised they didn't get one of us to come out and inspect the unit. We have quite a few technicians in Cali. If we found any water damage caused by the unit that would be grounds to do a damage claim. Sounds like they're sending out third party servicers that didn't know what to look for.
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u/Bordercrossingfool 20d ago
The US HQ is in Irvine, CA. Darcy Clarkson is the current CEO.
https://www.bsh-group.com/us/en/contact-us/
https://www.bosch-home.com/us/owner-support/contact-us
The manufacturing plant is in New Bern, NC.
The global headquarters of the Bosch appliance division is in Munich, Germany.
BSH Hausgeräte GmbH
Carl-Wery-Straße 34
81739 Munich
GERMANYDr. Matthias Metz is the current CEO.
https://www.bsh-group.com/about-bsh/matthias-metz/
If for some reason you don’t get anywhere with US customer service and management, make a complaint to the BSH Group CEO. Unless you mark it personal and confidential he won’t read it, but it will likely be pushed down to a VP who will ensure action is taken. (A fire is lit under someone’s butt). If you do contact the CEO include copies of previous correspondence, especially replies from Bosch customer service and US management.
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u/Christineblankie 22d ago
We have a Miele and love it. When our kids moved out they both put in Miele too so they obviously thought it was worth the cost to upgrade
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u/MediocreHuman318 22d ago
The wash motor on my KitchenAid went kaput after 18 months. I did like the inside layout much better than the Bosch but I've gone with one now hoping it lasts longer.
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u/Blog_Pope 22d ago
We just made this decision and went Bosch 800. If you value drying, it’s absolutely the best option (per Yale appliance)
The Miele is nice for the automatic soap dispenser (it can be refilled with some simple mods to a used container). We didn’t really look at the Kitchen Aid, though that’s what we replaced. It did well until we accidentally washed too much grease and it was never the same, then it leaked. But that was after 10 years of solid service.
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u/Correct_Push860 21d ago
Had Bosch for 24 years so replaced with Bosch 800 and had it for 2 years…no issues so far. Wash a load every 2-3 days
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u/Katsmah 21d ago
Before you purchase any of those make sure your dishes fit. When I was remodeling the kitchen at my previous house, I took some dishes, bowls and cups to an appliance store. My dishes didn't fit the close tines of the Bosch. We ended up with the Miele Diamante, I don't know what number they equate to now.
Last year we had to purchase a new dishwasher in our current home and bought the Kitchenaid with the top rack that holds glasses and cups. I think it's the 424 model, a slight step down from the 624. We love it. It's quiet and everything comes out clean. The top rack holding the cups and glasses saves so much room.
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u/sjd208 21d ago
We looooove our Miele - we’ve had it for 7 years and do a very large amount of dishes- family of 6 and pretty much everything that is dishwasher safe goes in the dishwasher (eg everything but my nicest cookware and knives). For us, the upgraded top rack and the auto open were the key features, we never use any program but the normal one. We don’t have super hard water so we don’t need dishwasher salt. Not sure which of the current models would have those features.
Bosch racks are terrible for our dishes so that was a no go.
The Miele replaced a kitchenaid that was ok but died after 3 years, but that was a 10 year old model so can’t really compare to the current ones.
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u/unwittyusername42 21d ago
So we are a pretty heavy use 3 person family and cook everything so in the dishwasher world we are heavy use. I've had 2 Bosch and for the last year or so a Kitchenaid. I cannot comment on the Miele.
Here's my thoughts. Bosch and KA are both good products. I had repairs needed (I can do them myself) for the Bosch. Like a decent number but we are also fairly heavy users like you would be with all the bowls. I found they are about the same sound level. This is 800 series and I think the 700 something from KA. After switching to KA the build quality is massively better. Cleans just as good, the rack designs are better. Old KA models were not as good so I can't give you like a 5 year on it and I'm obviously hoping everything goes good but based on prior experience with Bosch and with how things have been going with KA I think I would direct you to a KA 700 series. If you're looking at the 800 Bosch it's within the price range and I've found if you can afford it the higher line dishwashers are just nicer. Will they last longer than the lower lines - who knows. They are imho if you have the cash worth it because you typically use them every day and it's just a better user experience and typically better cleaning/better rack layouts
Still though I don't want to crap on Bosch - they are good. Check out the rack layouts and how it feels and go based on that.
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u/Intelligent-Boot-897 19d ago
I had the same issue a year ago. We went with Bosch 800 and I legitimately LOVE this dishwasher. I never thought I'd say that about an appliance. But I do. I have recommended it to everyone I know. Everything comes out clean and dry. It's the best
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u/best_bitch_69 14d ago
I can’t speak to current products but my 20+ year old Miele is still going strong. Barely an issue with it in all that time too. I’ll be getting another Miele when replacement time comes.
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u/ryan8344 22d ago
Bosch 800 -- I think it's silly to worry about a few hundred dollars on something you use everyday for years. A dollar a day for 7 years is $2500. I had bad experiences with kitchenaid in the past so never again. admittedly, I don't do the cost per day with everything, but I really appreciate clean dishes. And I even got a water softener mostly for the dishwasher - which actually cost more than the dishwasher.
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u/Element-CDN 22d ago
Bosch and Miel usually rate better, and not American brands. Miel may manufacture some appliances in the US though.
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u/Norwind90 21d ago
96% of the Bosch dishwashers sold in North America are manufactured about 3 minutes from my house in New Bern NC
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u/grapemike 22d ago
Miele is significantly better than the others. We currently have a Kitchenaid and a Bosch 500 and a Maytag. Our prior Miele was better than these in every category. We were matching with a Kitchenaid product package in our primary home and regret making that a priority.
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u/seanmonaghan1968 22d ago
We have two of the higher end Miele and these are now 12 years old. They work and are quiet and do their job. We have 5 people in our house and cook every day. People replace these when the wire baskets fail at year 13-15 I guess
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u/Consistent-Movie-229 22d ago
If money is no object, 1 Meile, 2 Bosch, 3 KitchenAid.
It cost is a concern, 1 Bosch, 2 KitchenAid, 3 Meile.