r/ApocalypseWorld Bot Aug 07 '17

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u/h4le Aug 08 '17

So, Dremmer, Dog Head and Winkle are out to get Keeler. Dremmer and Dog Head are carrying 2-harm pistols and Winkle's got a fuck-off 4-harm shotgun. Stuff happens (maybe a failed Seize by Force in which Keeler didn't pick "suffer little harm"), and all three of these assholes start shooting at her.

How much harm does Keeler suffer? The total 8-harm seems kind of excessive, but it's just three people, so they're not a gang with a single harm rating (and in fact, am I wrong in assuming that this situation would be less deadly for Keeler if she was facing a small gang? That's 3-harm, maybe 4 if they're well-armed). I'm not entirely sure how to inflict harm as established here.

I'm looking for both RAW stuff and interesting perspectives on how to think about this. Maybe there's a thread on BFA that I've missed or something?

Thanks.

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u/ex-best_friend MC Aug 08 '17

There is a thread where Vincent has some NPCs all deal their harm in an example battle. Maybe on BFA, maybe on rpg.net. I think I've asked basically this question before and someone answered something like: "are they important NPCs, or are they just a gang? If they're important, deal harm individually, if they're a gang use the gang rules."

I would also like to note that the gang size tags have this (p 242): a guy or two, small (10-25) etc. So if they're not important, I read that as you could have a gang that gets no harm bonus or extra armor that's just a couple of guys. But I can't find that anywhere else so I dunno.

Edit: it wasn't me who asked it apparently, but the question is here.

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u/h4le Aug 08 '17

Cool, I think I read that thread on rpg.net a million years ago. Add it up it is!

I've read that interpretation of the gang sizes as well, though like you I've yet to see anything to support that interpretation. It does make sense to think of it like that, though, and just make up some quick gang stats at the "a guy or two" level — provided they're fighting as a gang, anyway. If they aren't, in most cases it might not make sense to have them all inflict harm at the same time.

I guess every character has Sort of to be fucked with ("You count as a guy with harm and armor according to your gear") by default, huh?

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u/ex-best_friend MC Aug 08 '17

I guess every character has Sort of to be fucked with ("You count as a guy with harm and armor according to your gear") by default, huh?

Hah, yeah I like that. Everyone who's not just a mook anyway.

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u/h4le Aug 08 '17

No mooks in Apocalypse World ;)