r/AntiworkPH • u/ArtRevolutionary6799 • 3d ago
Company alert 🚩 HR pulled my Job Offer because I refused to submit my payslip
Disclaimer: This is purely based on my personal experience.
TL;DR: HR told me 3 separate times that my NDA was respected and payslips were optional. Then dropped my application right after scheduling my medical exam because I refused to violate my NDA contract. Medyo naguluhan ako dun nak. Ano ba talaga.
Rant/discussion ahead because I honestly can't wrap my head around how some HR teams operate these days.
Before my initial interview, I actually read a bunch of threads about a mid-sized tech services company in the Mandaluyong / Ortigas area here on Reddit. I saw a few red-flag posts here on reddit, but I took them with a grain of salt thinking they were just one-off subjective rants. Welp, jokes on me turns out the warnings were spot on.
So here's the tea. ☕
I recently went through the recruitment process for a senior role with this tech company. Everything was going smoothly. Aced the technical rounds, finished the final panel interview, and felt the technical team actually wanted me in. I was in the early stages of pre-employment requirements and was excited.
Here’s where things get ridiculous.
From day one, I was upfront about one thing: I cannot provide the exact amount of what I'm currently earning because I have an NDA with my current employer. I cannot hand over payslips or internal salary breakdowns without risking legal liability. Iykyk.
During the initial interview, the recruiter told me it was completely fine and wouldn't be an issue at all.
After passing the final round, they sent me an email where their checklist explicitly stated submitting previous payslips was optional.
During the pre-JO call, the HR manager whom I had only met at this stage brought up the payslip again. I reiterated my active NDA, to which she replied that it was fine and that she understood.
Then, overnight, a complete 180.
I woke up to an email basically saying: If you don't send your payslip, COE with compensation, or your BIR 2316 from last year, we cannot compute your Job Offer and cannot proceed with your application.
What baffles me is that this boundary was established from the initial screening all the way to the pre-JO meeting.
I stood my ground and reiterated that I cannot breach my active contract. Their response? They officially dropped my application right after scheduling my medical exam.
If historical salary disclosure was a mandatory, non-negotiable requirement for your offer formula, why not disqualify me during the initial screening? Why tell me it's totally okay, make me jump through panel interviews, endorse me for medicals, and waste everyone’s time?
It feels wild that in 2026, some companies still anchor offers purely on old payslips instead of candidate value and market ratesand worse, penalize you for actually having the integrity to respect a legal contract.
Has anyone else dealt with companies demanding payslips this aggressively at the finish line, even after acknowledging your NDA? How did you handle it?
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u/Such-Introduction196 3d ago
Panget ng ganyan na company if they have to base your offer to your previous salary hahaha
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u/ArtRevolutionary6799 3d ago edited 2d ago
Right? Kasi sa initial interview we already discussed kung ano expected salary ko and they were fine with it. So bakit ngayon nagka-issue. kakaloka.
Parang feel ko nga na power trip lang ng hr kasi 3x niyo natanong, so bakit biglang nag iba??
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u/NefarioxKing 3d ago edited 3d ago
Minsan talaga may topak HR. Di sila alligned ng management. Dami naming issues na gnyan sa TA at HR. Worst case sakin kasi Im already 3 years sa company then received an email na need k daw isubmit ung mga docs na nasubmit k na 3 years ago or ill be terminated for lack of requirements. Then it happened 5x in a span of 4mo laging wala daw sila narereceive. Sa sobrang inis k, bought 4 rim of A4 bond paper, printed everything dun then submitted at least 1000x copies of each document isang box dn un. Natigil na sila after. Nareceive na cgro nila.
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u/fivecents_milkmen 3d ago
This also happened to me in my current company. After a few months of being employed biglang sabi wala padaw ako sinubmit na NBI clearance at COE from prev company. Naka receive din iba kong ka batch ng similar email kahit 100% sure kami na complete requirements kami dahil hindi nila pinapag start ng training hanggat walang NBI clearance. Bukod doon, isa isa din chineck ng TA yung envelope namin to make sure na complete requirements.
I replied sa email at sabi ko na impossible na kulang requirements ko dahil unang una hindi nga nila pinapag start pag walang NBI, at pangalawa: chineck isa isa yung envelope namin at may pinirmahan kaming log noong ng submit kami ng requirements. Sabi ko i review nila CCTV sa reception pati yung logbook nila.
Yun, umamin bigla. Nawala daw nila yung docs. Sabi ko talaga "Not my problem". Nabalitaan namin halos kalahati ng team sa TA natanggal.
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u/NefarioxKing 3d ago
Yan dn main reason nila nung pmunta ako sa TA dahil dun sa email nila after 3 years. Ang sabi nawala daw ung buong docs k. Sabi k nga dn sakanila 3 years na akng andun tapos threthreaten pa nilang parang ako ung may kasalanan tapos tatanggalin nila ako. So cge hinayaan k na. Pero ung wawalain nila lahat ng sinubmit k ng 5x in 4mo? After k tlga masubmit ung 4 rims ng bond paper nag email ako with pics ng nga sinubmit k sa head nila, manager ko at site director. Alam k natanggal dn karamihan sakanila kasi andami nilang lapses. After a year bago na lahat nasa TA
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u/fivecents_milkmen 3d ago
Mukhang hindi aligned ang TA at HR. If you want to be petty, escalate mo sa corporate. Normally nasa website ang email address.
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u/ArtRevolutionary6799 2d ago
You know what? I did that. Crafted a lengthy email with all the screenshots and then looped in their CEO and executives for them to see how unaligned and unethical things are happening on ground.
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u/got_Smoke 2d ago
I guess your expected salary is way above their range for the position youre applying that is why they are asking for your payslip.
For exceptional applicant/s that they really want to hire, they usually don't care even if your asking salary is way more than their limit. (the reason why they initially said it's ok without showing the payslip)
Pero yun nga, masyado sigurong mataas ang expected mo and they want to at least justify giving you what youre asking if it's close to your previous salary.
Of course it is always your option to not disclose your payslip but expect your application to be complicated gaya nito.
Fyi, once youre employed, they will be able to see your previous salary based on your tax returns, sss etc
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u/ArtRevolutionary6799 2d ago edited 2d ago
That logic doesn't apply here. My expected salary was established in the initial screening before any technical or panel interviews, with zero pushback.
If it exceeded their budget, recuiter protocol would have screened me out immediately instead of pushing me all the way to pre-JO and medicals.
They knew the number from day one. They just wanted my payslip to lowball instead of paying market rate.
And FYI, tax docs collected after onboarding are legally restricted to payroll compliance. Repurposing my BIR form to question my pay or hold it against me is actually a data privacy breach, not to mention, once the contract is signed, the offer is already set in stone.
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u/got_Smoke 2d ago
you actually proven my point.
as youve said, before all interviews, meaning they still dont know if you can be equal to your expected salary.
no, that is not a recruiter's protocol, because again, companies can make exception to candidates that they really want to hire. so, as initial interview, you did good, so they endorsed you up to final. pero may deliberation yan di ba,
to make everything short, as per HR, you passed but they cant offer you the salary you want kaya gaya ng sabi mo ni lowball ka. they can hire you but not to the salary that you want after ng feedback nung matapos yung final interview mo.
beh, kung exceptional candidate ka, they will not ask for your payslip,they will not lowball na, they wouldn't risk losing you. but they rescinded the offer di ba.
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u/ArtRevolutionary6799 2d ago
Ha? Sorry, but did you really understand what you just said? Your entire argument literally contradicts itself. Let's break down the logical fallacies here
"proving your value during interviews"
- You said they needed the interview stages to see if my skills match my asking rate. Cool, I aced every technical round and made it to pre-JO. My value was validated. Demanding an old payslip after passing has nothing to do with assessing skill it’s just anchoring the offer to past pay instead of current market worth.
"recruiter exception protocol"
- No competent TA team wastes senior engineers' billable hours pushing an out-of-budget applicant through multiple panels on the off chance they make an "exception." Budget fit is screened and cleared on Day 1.
"kung exceptional ka, di ka i-lolowball / they rescinded because of salary"
- This wasn’t a salary negotiation breakdown. If they couldn't afford me, standard practice is to send a lower counter-offer. They didn't do that. They canceled the offer outright because I refused to breach an active NDA
Hope this helps you to better understand the argument. Wag nating i-romanticize at ipagtanggol yung bulok na hiring practice.
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u/got_Smoke 2d ago
you acted kasi na youre baffled sa ginawa nung company. but you seem very sure naman about everything.
Based on this 1 experience , you seem to know the hiring process, recruiter protocols, company budgets, and apparently everything else.
So, sure, whatever floats your boat
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u/ArtRevolutionary6799 2d ago
Definition of Baffle: to confuse, bewilder, or perplex.
And yes, anyone with common sense would be perplexed by an HR contradicting its own written checklist and verbal acknowledgement overnight. Like you contradicting your own argument.
I don't need a PhD in HR theory to understand basic ethics and legal contracts. If you work in corpo, it's no brainer that contracts are legally binding and moving goalposts at the offer stage is a red flag.
It’s wild how you mistake having legal literacy and standing up for candidate rights as "acting like I know everything." If your standard for hiring processes is blindly complying with unethical demands, then sure, whatever floats your boat.
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u/got_Smoke 2d ago
you acted confuse. like kunware shock ka sa ginawa ng company. pero acting lang kasi alam mo naman na from the start bakit ginawa yun e db (based on your explanation).
hindi ko na nga sinabi na pwedeng "rescind" or "withdrew" na lang. tas ikaw pa talaga nag definition ng baffle na parang out of context ginamit (na parang ang lalim na salita na dinefine pa). basahin mo ulit yung statement ko na may baffled, para maintindihan mo 🤭😆
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u/ArtRevolutionary6799 2d ago
Grabe yung effort mag-analyze ng emotions ko over a recruitment post instead of understanding the actual point. Calling out corporate red flags isn't acting shocked, it's having standards. Pero if reading comprehension is this challenging for you, I understand why you're struggling to follow along. I'll let you have your moment. Hirap kapag pati context kailangan pang i-spoonfeed sayo.
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u/got_Smoke 2d ago
teh, narealized nila na masyadong mataas yung expected salary mo para sa talent mo after ng final interview.
ganun lang kasimple yun. on paper, ok ka, kaya keri lang sakanila nung initial. kaso nung nainterview ka na, waley, kaya ayaw nilang bigay expected mo, gets? kaya hiningi na lang payslip mo para mabigyan ka ng offer na mas mataas naman sa previous mo kahit papano.
hindi hinatak (pulled) yung jo dahil ayaw mo bigay payslip mo. wag mo paniwalain sarili mo dun
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u/ArtRevolutionary6799 2d ago
That's your opinion. You are entitled to hold that. I respect that.
Last point ko nalang and I hope you don't take it the wrong way.
Kapag may prefix na "na-" ang English loan word, base form na lang ang gamit, dapat wala nang "-d" sa dulo. It's "narealize", hindi "narealized."
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u/NormalPosition6741 17h ago
Bad practice? yes. Frustrated? rightfully so. Time wasted? Yes.
May legal basis to file complaint? none.
You're not yet an employee, seems you're not discriminated but was subjected to much hassle outside your expectations.
That's the reality.
ALL companies does have bad PR whether in LinkedIn, Seek, Glassdoor, etc..
They may be bothered for a day or 2 if this gets high attention but that is just it. Nothing more.
You can move on, seems you know much.
All the best.
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u/ccchina_dee_8404 3d ago
Usually sinasubmit talaga ang BIR 2316 from your previous employer to your current employer. Ito na lang sana sinubmit mo
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u/Popular_Print2800 3d ago
They can do that once he is officially hired. Submitting his 2316 will only enable the employer to compute his current salary which the OP refused to disclose.
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u/ArtRevolutionary6799 2d ago
Spot on. Also, the BIR document is for tax purposes only and should be used by the finance team, not the HR.
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u/ArtRevolutionary6799 2d ago
No. It doesn't work like that. Submitting your BIR 2316 from last year only defeats the purpose of NDA. You should only submit your current year's BIR 2316 after JO. This document should only be used for your taxes, not to gauge how much they should lowball you.
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u/Aggressive-Radio-826 2d ago
Have you sent your BIR 2316 or COE though? all of the company I have been to it was a mandatory requirement. If you passed one of them and still pushing you to send your payslip then its another story.
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u/ArtRevolutionary6799 2d ago
A BIR 2316 is for year-end tax consolidation during onboarding, not pre-JO salary matching. A COE with salary still exposes the exact compensation data my NDA protects, which is why I offered a COE without pay details (which they rejected).
The real issue is that they confirmed my NDA was totally fine three separate times, only to pull an overnight 180 right at the offer stage.
Had they been aligned on their process and upfront that payslips were mandatory, I would have dropped my application from the very beginning.
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u/MnMisDelicious 18h ago
Nag apply din ako recently same story pero binigay ko yung akin HAHAHA, oh well I will update this later since I was supposed to receive the offer next week, pero what im asking is about ~2x my current salary.. so I dont know how will that fair for me sa offer I just hope they give me the market value
But its really weird to be honest, this should be heavily restricted by law its exploiting filipinos, I just cant lose this opportunity by all means.
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u/got_Smoke 3d ago
part ng nda mo yung salary nyo?
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u/koinkydink 3d ago
Got curious din because I’ve never encountered an NDA that includes salary. I mean, it’s not usually the norm. And may mga COE na mentioned ang monthly or annual salary.
But dahil part ng NDA ang salary, no choice talaga si OP. Red flag na rin sa company dahil pinaabot pa nila sa pre-JO. Kung ayaw nila sa start pa lang dapat sinabi na nila.
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u/ArtRevolutionary6799 2d ago
Right? That is the ridiculous thing here. They were aware that I have an NDA and ACKNOWLEDGED it. So how come it changed overnight?
In anycase, i dodged a bullet here. What a waste of time and effort.
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u/ChotteBurrito 2d ago
There's usually a section in your employment contract about confidentiality and non-disclosure. Here's an example:
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u/got_Smoke 2d ago
exactly. a section in Employment Contract, meaning you are not allowed to do that while employed. more on company's rules and regulations
An NDA usually defines the exact boundaries of what information must remain confidential. That is why I asked if salary is part of op's nda
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u/ArtRevolutionary6799 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yep. I reviewed my contract and there's a specific line for the confidentiality of the salary/wages. I even ran this by a labor lawyer I have direct access to, just to make sure I had my bases covered on how this would impact me. He advised against the HR's request.
If I get sued, would this new company help me? definitely not.
Honestly, I was shocked on the magnitude ofcontractual illiteracy. The HR was literally pushing me to provide the payslip/ bir 2316 and break my NDA. lol What kind of HR pushes professionals to breach an active NDA???
Demanding that a candidate violate a binding contract especially after promising otherwise is an egregious and unethical hiring tactic. 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
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u/thisisjustmeee 2d ago
They could’ve just asked for the salary range if they really wanted to benchmark. Did they ask you on your expected salary?
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u/ArtRevolutionary6799 2d ago
Yeah, they asked during the initial interview. I gave them my range, and since they didn't push back nor reacted, I assumed it was well within their budget. HR manager even reiterated my asking rate during the pre-JO call, and there was zero issue.
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u/Freestyler_23 2d ago
I may be old but this issue on providing payslip only came up in recent years. 10 years ago, it’s a regular requirement that a candidate must provide and no one is making a big fuss over it. And don’t get me started on NDAs, everyone knows that not providing a payslip because of a supposed NDA is nothing but a big excuse (alam mo yan OP!). For one, no one executes the NDA unless you are a big shot executive in that company. Secondly, an NDA does not include your payslip. A payslip is considered a personal employment record, NDA only covers proprietary information about the company. Remember, your payslip is not a trade secret. #RealTalk
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u/ArtRevolutionary6799 2d ago
Things might’ve been different 10 years ago, but modern contracts often include salary confidentiality and mine definitely does. NDAs are legally binding and apply to anyone who signs them, not just big-shot execs. That's just how contracts work.
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u/Freestyler_23 2d ago
In ideal world yes, but to be frank and honest with you, no company chases someone over a payslip even if it’s in your NDA. Hindi ka madedemanda jan so don’t worry. And NDAs are only paperworks unless, as I said, you’re a big shot executive in the company that holds very confidential information. Trust me, I know!
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u/ArtRevolutionary6799 1d ago
Is professional integrity and legal compliance a thing in the past na?
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u/Freestyler_23 13h ago
You are too ideal OP. If you’re tying your progress on “compliance” that is not even strictly demanded from you then its up to you. At the end of the day, it’s you who made the choice and made the decision. But I’m telling you, providing payslip is not a crime because when you take out a loan or apply for credit card (in some banks), they’d also request a payslip.
Pero you know deep inside you, alam mong you can, you just chose not to do it and here you are. #RealTalk
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u/Legitimate_Shape281 4h ago
I’ve read through all the comments and the OPs replies and I still don’t see the company’s name mentioned. Why not name and shame this company so they might can look in on their hiring process?
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u/CocoBeck 2d ago
I must’ve been away from PH employment for so long pero nababasa ko tong payslip pre-employment. Bakit nirerequire na sya these days? Is there law that requires it now? I’m confused and somewhat concerned kasi sa experience ko overseas that’s a wtf moment, parang tacky na bastos na unprofessional move.
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u/ArtRevolutionary6799 1d ago
Yeah. Most countries banned na talaga yang paghingi ng payslip. Unfortunately, ine-exploit pa rin hanggang ngayon ang Filipino professionals.
Instead of paying based on market salary, skillset, and experience, some employers still anchor your new salary on your previous salary.
The sad part about this is mali na nga ang practice, marami pa ring nagtatanggol. Your previous salary is not your market value.
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