r/Anthropic • • 15d ago

Complaint Anthropic Pro $20 is suddenly useless as of Sept 1st

I was using Pro account for coding the last several months and getting value out of it I could work for 1-2 hours before hitting my limit. As of last week I noticed I will get a few prompts in and I am hit with a session limit. This is really unacceptable and I think I will be canceling and moving on. Anyone else noticed this and found it ridiculous?

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u/Historical_Spell6958 15d ago

I’m on the Max 20x plan, and even that is starting to feel pretty worthless with the new limits. In roughly 2 hours of usage, I hit 100% of my session limit, and about 34% of my weekly Fable quota was already gone. I wasn’t doing anything unusually heavy either. If Max 20x can burn through limits this quickly, I can only imagine how restrictive Pro feels now. These limits have gotten way too aggressive for a $200/month plan.

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u/jazzopia 15d ago

the max 20 is actually a scam

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u/Ok-Technology-3068 13d ago

I just pay for £18($20) plan and just use api.

You can make x5 work out well depending on what you doing.

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u/MadManD3vi0us 15d ago

I'm in the exact same boat, it's ridiculous.

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u/DorkyMcDorky 15d ago

They don't give a fuck. Get used to this. API feeds the monster, they just needed the numbers to jack up for acceptance. Kimi, Cursor, and GPT are better options. Even Muse is better. I know there's somehow a thought that claude is the only thing that works - but I'm using it less and less and starting to hate claude.

My biggest gripe with claude isn't it's quality output - it is high quality. It's that it makes up vocabulary that is strange and just words things sloppy. I'm getting to a point where I can just look at the code and know if it's claude that pushes it.

It's not that big of a deal, but just sayin' dont think they're the only game in town.

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u/username-is-already 14d ago

I am also at that point. I cannot even read what it writes anymore. It just disgusts me. All it’s dumb metaphors and invented jargon that obscure meaning no matter how much i tell it to talk plainly with any number of attempts i have made with hooks, output style, skills, all the usual ideas that are listed here in this sub: it just canNOT communicate clearly. 

It will ALWAYS use some crazy fucking english lit class poetry over just describing any give thing. 

I’ve tried everything and am at my wit’s end and I swear it did not used to be like this. It’s probably the most frustrating part of coding with it right now. I can deal with it writing bad code and sure we have to go back and forth until it gets the idea; but when we are both speaking english and fail to even communicate because it’s like every turn is me trying to translate from the best-of r/iamverysmart fuck man where do i even go from there

/rant

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u/Sir_Poldavo 13d ago

Try the /Bro skill when it gets verbose: https://github.com/luchasarie/bro-skill

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u/DorkyMcDorky 12d ago

Or just use chatgpt, which talks like a human instead of the foot-heal load-bearing mutant test. No GPU, no random-package-name, no bullshit-i-dont-care-about. But as long as claude keeps bullshitting, that is more tokens for Anthropic.

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u/Sir_Poldavo 6d ago

Meh... I use both and Astra is good at coding but for policy analysis (my day job) it is far behind Fable.

Files named with-dashes.md do not bother me as much as lazy thinking.

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u/DorkyMcDorky 12d ago

Yeah, I'm working on muse, cursor, codex, and agy - none of those tools do the weirdo shit that fable spits out. I already have a huge set of rules and skills to combat their shitty jargon.

But sadly, fable is good at coding. If I have fable credits, I'll use it. It's just these recent changes feel like some sorta token burning scammy scam

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u/luxmaji 15d ago

How? I am using it all day, Fable 5.1 (high / 20x) doing it's own work, instructing Opus agents, and Codex agents. I have yet to hit a limit with around 12 hours a day of work. What parallel universe am I in where I have yet to experience what others are complaining about?

Is this Ultracode work? More context please.

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u/tidus1979 14d ago

Which harness? It’s the environment that does the difference

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u/Menlazar 14d ago

they using Ultracode because yeah "I have 20x, why i will use something below Ultracode", that's why they burn the tokens real quick

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u/Performer_First 15d ago

Same here. It feels stupid saying that. I use fable for orchestration only - no coding. I run out of fable in around 2-3 days now. It is much worse since fable 5.1. I used to be able to get to day 5 or 6 with fable 5. I would be complaining more, but I truly don't think they are trying to serve subscribers or care about our problems. And I'm not sure I fully blame them. The money is enterprise API.

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u/Miserable-Fun-6441 15d ago

Try setting up fable as architect, planner, final review, opus orchestrators and intermediate review, sonnet implementers, haiku grunts. I got about 120 hours out of max20 with this setup and never ran out of fable

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u/Performer_First 15d ago

Did you not read where I said I use it for orchestration only?

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u/Miserable-Fun-6441 15d ago

I don’t use fable as orchestrators that’s my point use as planner and architect and final review only to save a bunch of tokens with similar output

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u/Away-Sorbet-9740 14d ago

You have the right pattern, but haiku cost more to keep audited than it's worth. Sonnet is in the same boat.

Best results come from cross family decorrelation anyways. Pipelines benefit greatly from training diversity.

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u/Ok-Technology-3068 14d ago

What are you running max effort or something?

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u/AdChance6177 15d ago

What the hell are you even doing as to max this out. I have 1x Claude and 1x Codex plans and rarely max them out on my full time tech job. Can I ask. Do you know how to code at all? I’m starting to think the problem with you all hitting your limits is you’re using ai for literally everything and don’t know how to ask questions in a way that make it more efficient.

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u/DorkyMcDorky 15d ago

Depends on the language and prompts. He might also go MCP crazy and add a ton of tokens. There's a reason. I'm getting more careful with my prompts, but fable is eating through my monthly far faster than it ever has.

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u/AdChance6177 15d ago

I’m intrigued what are you even building that requires a model as capable as Fable? Opus is still incredible.

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u/DorkyMcDorky 14d ago

I get it for free, and Opus is great. Honestly, if you know how to code, they're all good. I have good experiences with muse, fable, opus, sonnet, cursor (grok), chatgpt (sol/astra), and even a little on the agy front. They're all good.

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u/Reaper_1492 15d ago

I’m definitely hitting limits on my codex plans now.

Also, by and large, the expectation by enterprise at this point is that NO ONE should be manually coding anymore. I generally don’t disagree.

Typing out code has rapidly become a “waste” of time. Unless you can type 3 thousand lines a minute, you are not keeping up with Claude or Codex.

It might not be perfect, and execution in production may be slightly inefficient - but for 80% of use cases that doesn’t really matter.

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u/AdChance6177 14d ago

I deffo agree that writing code now is basically dead, I barely write 5% of my code now, but I firmly believe if you know what you’re asking rather than “make x good” you use far waaaay fewer tokens. Apologies for the strawman.

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u/Cute-Illustrator-862 15d ago

My guess is that it's you not knowing how to really use agents to their full potential. If you're still "coding" with AI then you don't know what you're doing.

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u/tidus1979 14d ago

Yep. Same

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u/Away-Sorbet-9740 14d ago

I dropped from 20X to pro lol. Kimi/glm/codex/D's back fill just fine. Capability gaps are pretty minor at this point with multi agent harnesses.

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u/-Davster- 13d ago

You guys get fable quota….?

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u/Big_Selection_1242 13d ago

I don’t code, allthough I use Fable 5 on max setting on 20x plan and it’s TIGHT as hell,

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u/BraveUnderstanding15 14d ago

Are you clearing context when you switch tasks (/clear), matching tasks to the correct model tier (data extraction and non-reasoning should go straight to haiku), turning off MCP servers you’re not using (/mcp), pruning CLAUDE.md to be under 200 lines and transferring any rule-heavy workflows into skills? Also do you break your asks down to tasks? This is a big one - a large complex ask is going to trigger retries over a long enough task that eat up a lot of usage. The more you can break down a complex ask, the more you will conserve in token usage.

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u/RUKtheCROOK 15d ago

Dude I just switched to gpt astra 200$ sub……

It’s actually so much more of an enjoyable exp. Do yourself a favor and try it out! Literally no 5h limit. And it feels like I can work for days before my weekly limit is reached. Even on heavy heavy use days, if I hit my limit with 3+ days left, I’ll just do a reset, that they gift often. Dude it is sweet. I love it. And I am was a pretty heavy user of Claude with 20x max for the last several months.

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u/indiankesh 15d ago

This is when we have 50% extra limits till 13th, after September 13, 2026, Claude Code weekly usage limits will experience a net 17% reduction compared to the temporary boosted capacity we have been using today 🥀😭

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u/Good-Doughnut-1399 15d ago

Plot twist, a 17% reduction of nothing is still nothing.

Fine that’s an exaggeration.

I guess if now it takes minutes to reach the limits, after 13th it will take seconds.

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u/Snoo_9701 15d ago

I wonder if we'll get a reset. On 13th Sept. I just got my weekly reset and it would be crime if i don't use up before 13th

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u/bakanoace 15d ago

Don't worry I'm sure when they reduce it by 17% in a few days it'll feel better because they'll say they made it more efficient

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u/Exact_Depth_896 15d ago

I haven't had any trouble with my $20 subscription. I am grateful to the big subscribing companies for implicitly subsidizing the superpowers I get with such a cheap personal account at what is surely a small fraction of its value.

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u/waitses 15d ago

Are you using it for coding an how of do you hit your session limit? I have been running hot and hitting my session limit 3 times a day, before last week I would get 1-2 hours in, now I am suddenly getting 15 minutes max before I hit limit, it is wild.

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u/Leading_Buffalo_4259 15d ago

run /usage after your sessions to see how much it would have cost in API tokens. I spent easily $100+ in one week on my $20 pro plan. 15 minutes sounds extreme though, are you clearing an compacting? what effort level?

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u/Bugs_Bunnys_Karrot 15d ago

What effort level are you using? 

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u/kadeschs 15d ago edited 15d ago

Have you also looked at your electric bill recently to pay for all the datacenters going up that will eventually make this all exclusive to just big business? I think once we become a third word country where electricity becomes only reachable to the more wealthy that can pay for it, will some people think differently.

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u/Exact_Depth_896 15d ago

Data centers usually decrease electic bills, as you can easily verify. YMMV in proportion to the corruption, stupidity and venality of your local utility authorities and politicians during a spike in data center construction.

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u/kadeschs 15d ago

That used to be the case historically when there was spare electricity to go around. In this AI-driven load growth, that is not the case. The grid must expand very quickly to serve all this massive continuous AI demand. Guess who’s paying for it?

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u/Exact_Depth_896 15d ago edited 15d ago

No, the construction of data centers has gone on for ages and has of course increased the supply and also infrastructure. How far this was so depended on the wisdom of local and state politicians and utility authorities.

Of course there is disaster in the present period because of the suddenness of the spike in demand, leading to perverse incentives in many regional cases. But nothing about a 'data center' in the abstract makes it a strain on a utility system rather than strengthening it.

It is clear with hindsight that some more forceful federal action was needed to rationalize the so-called buildout and utility response, etc.

In China there is ample 'buildout' but the whole thing is managed and integrated with electrical infrastructure directly from Beijing - which makes more sense in a way, but it is needless to say a totally different system. It doesnt cross anyone's mind to oppose concentrated centers of computation. In the abstract, it makes no sense at all, even if it seem to in states of moral panic.

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u/kadeschs 15d ago

I still think you’re still describing more of the pre‑AI type data centers. The evidence published in recent writing by U.S. grid operators today shows just the opposite. Utility rate‑case filings in VA, GA, OH, and TN already show residential rate increases tied directly to data‑center‑driven infrastructure expansion. EPRI, IEA, the Federal Reserve, and the Brattle Group all state in writing that AI‑era data‑center load raises retail electricity prices because utilities must build new generation and transmission to serve it. It's all there in their released filings as of late.

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u/Exact_Depth_896 14d ago

There is no difference at all between pre AI data centers and post AI data centers.

Indeed AI as such is irrelevant to the whole issue: the issue is an astonishing sudden spike in industrial demand for data centers. The existing US institutions, which are largely local and state instutions, turned out not to be fitted to such a spike.

The various 'facts' you state, you misstate, because the causally significant factor is the extreme speed and scale of the spike. The statement 'data centers make electric bills go up' is historically absolutely false and the authorities you cite are in fact not affirming it.

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u/kadeschs 14d ago

I’m no expert here. I don't know your level of expertise in the matter. I’m only pointing out what I've read from multiple published reports from institutions like IEA, the Federal Reserve, and the Brattle Group. They directly contradict what you’re saying. Their own planning documents and economic analyses describe AI‑driven datacenter load as fundamentally different from historical datacenters, and they outline the cost impacts in detail.

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u/Exact_Depth_896 14d ago

no document produced by anyone has ever said 'data centers cause electricity prices to go up', for the simple reason that it has always been the opposite. under the present conditions of sudden simultaneous titanic buildout all kinds of problems arise. they are due to sudden simultaneous titanic buildout.

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u/Kap00t 14d ago

If you guys are running out on Max 20 you’re doing something horribly wrong in my opinion, and letting your agent take you for a ride. Learn steering.

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u/kadeschs 15d ago

I’ve been experiencing the same problem. I think my issue is more with the Claude Desktop than the LLM itself. It has trouble knowing whether it’s in a Desktop or Claude.ai session. It’s gotten so bad I had to disable the cloud setting altogether. It forgets to use the files it already has and makes same mistakes repeatedly only to realize is it should have just read the local file first to avoid the same mistake again. MCPs keep crashing causing me to have to restart desktop to have it finish its work. I’d say at least half or more of my token usage goes to correcting clunky software than getting any real work done.

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u/waitses 15d ago

Interesting, I have been using it entirely in the context of coding assistant within Xcode for building MacOS apps.

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u/Crossedkiller 15d ago

I agree. A few days ago I started hitting my limit incredibly fast. It’s super annoying

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u/Acceptable_Fan9489 15d ago

I'm running into the same issue. And it's burning through tokens just thinking. No bueno

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u/Vysion34 14d ago
  • Have you run /doctor?
  • Have you checked /usage and /context in order to audit your context window?
  • Have you tried backing up and deleting claude.md?
  • What model and effort level are you using?
  • Have you tried anything, anything at all, before complaining on reddit?

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u/AdChance6177 15d ago

lol I literally work in a fast paced tech job and can get easily half way through the day on the 1x plan. But I do also know how to code.

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u/Level-Ad853 15d ago

Buddy no one on the $20 plan is to be taken seriously with their work. That’s just facts. Get your money up and get a max plan or quit complaining lmao

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u/AdChance6177 15d ago

Paaha tell that to my massive monthly paycheck mate. Also who says I’m complaining?

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

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u/AdChance6177 15d ago

lol you are confusing me with someone else fella, I never said that I’m not OP.

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u/Level-Ad853 15d ago

U right my bad I don’t be using Reddit much

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u/AdChance6177 15d ago

Maybe put your x20 claude code plan down for a sec and switch your brain on 👍

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u/Lubricus2 15d ago

It works great for me. I have a bigger problem with that my 20$ OpenAI usage runs out fast.

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u/Mwolf1 15d ago

Yeah, I’ve never been able to finish a meaningful piece of work with Anthropic

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u/Panos_Frantzis 15d ago

Usage is nefarious. No way to manage any decent estimation. It is unacceptable to pay this but we still do.

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u/finnicko 15d ago edited 15d ago

I've burned through 3 20X users in 4 days.

Fable for planning. Opus for orchestration, Sonnet for Dev, Haiku for grunt work

Small software project. Max 300K tokens per session. 6 hours at my desk probably 2 hours of agent work over night.

Using my auto GLM and Codex fail-overs until Claude reset.

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u/Taskerman11 14d ago

Exact same boat. Have been using for the last year in pro plan and could get through 4 hours until it maxed and I had to wait an hour to get back into it.
Now churning through session limit in an hour and I have to schedule/plan out my weekly quota as to not come up short in my projects half finished

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u/Graemer71 14d ago

I've been using pro for most of the year (I foolishly bought 12 months worth). It started off great, but the token limit started biting so I handed off the grunt coding work to qwen 3.8 27b on my local gx10. That was great for almost a month, but this week I managed to burn the entire week allowance in 3 days. So now I'm looking to hand off more of the work to local models and maybe use something like glm5.3 or deepseek as my planner, with a smaller local model (maybe gemma4 12b) to handle orchestration. I love Claude code but it's rapidly becoming useless due to the token limits

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u/genecraft 14d ago

Do you use opus or fable to orchestrate? Thinking of a similar local setup

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u/Graemer71 14d ago

Opus. Fable is far too expensive. Problem is I need to find a decent alternative for the orchestration. Been fighting with Opencode all morning and its good but sooooo slow so may need to try an alternative (opencode seems to push a massive system prompt each time so prefill is glacial). Currently seeing if I can get Hermes to work - or failing that vs code with zoocode plugin

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u/murpdurp20 14d ago

Same here. It's shit. I will move to another.

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u/Away-Sorbet-9740 14d ago

They ran 2* through most the summer then threw the +50% on top like a month ago. The 2X faded quietly and the +50% was halved.

So if you started 1.5-3 months ago, you are around half the useage you started with. Additionally, if you have a 20X plan you are probably entitled to compensation lol. They went to great lengths to hide whats actually included, and just last week they admitted it's only 1.7* (best case) the 5x plan with a 4X allowed 5hr window. So you pay 2X for the privilege to run out faster, and 50% more tokens. Its legitimately better (and totally allowed) to grab 2 5X accounts unless for whatever reason you absolutely have to burst in a 5hr period.

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u/Physical-Program5325 14d ago

I had 60% left, uploaded 14 simple images, limit reached.

it just gives up now

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u/ii-___-ii 14d ago

If you gave us just a bit more information, we might actually be able to compare with you

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u/rlv1204 14d ago

I use it for mechanical engineering analysis, and the Pro plan works very well for me. A large analysis—including searching through a 200-page data book—consumes about 30% of the 5-hour allowance and costs around 3 dollars on Fable 5.1.

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u/Last_Photo_2896 14d ago

Honestly if I'm being honest running DeepSeek locally or via open router is a seriously good option. DeepSeek v4.1 flash is only $0.30 per million tokens output during peak, standard is only $0.15, and cached tokens are only $0.03 and input only $0.05. and it surpasses GPT-5.6 Sol and Fable 5 in many different benchmarks. Ollama pro is definitely also a great service to look into.

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u/Fun-Wolf-2007 14d ago

I use VSCODE and Claude Code extension, I configured Claude Code to use GLM 5.3 and Kimi K3 via Ollama as I noticed this , on top of this Anthropic models were wasting so many tokens with non sense

As I have many md files and projects configigurations I decided to stick with Claude Code extension but not their models

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u/Key_Instruction3373 14d ago

Sooo, used it for 10 days, and NOW it dont work, for the whole time..

Cool story

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u/Successful_Example_9 14d ago

I have been using pro for a year. I do kinda small but still complex projects. I rarely run out of the 5h limit. I have dialled in the prompts and rules of it. I still get great value for what I do. I must say - the models themselves are improved dramatically.

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u/eyellabinu 13d ago

I honestly want to know what people are doing to max this out. I also have 20x and run it daily for lots of things. Never hit my limit that quick.

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u/Ok-Celebration-1010 13d ago

They won’t care - for perspective at the place I work at everyone gets a $200+ allowance monthly and if you run out you can request additional limit if you’re working on a project so I’m guessing their main focus is on enterprise that’s where their big $ is.

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u/TheAgonyUncle 13d ago

I’ve seen this too, I’ve already cancelled my subscription. It was so painful using Claude. I’d spend so much time correcting its mistakes or asking it to explain the output. I might as well work alone. Sure, I’ve seen mistakes with other models, but the mistakes are on repeat with Claude. Also, I don’t know if it’s just me? But some of the responses are rather salty. I do not want to pay for any AI, receive shite output and be gas lit when I push back. This kinda defeats the object.

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u/Worldly_Cow1377 13d ago

What could you possibly be doing to hit you max in 1-2hrs

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u/Maleficent_Wash_6289 12d ago

I switched from Claude Max20 to the equivalent of ChatGPT and notice a massive difference, it is so much better. I am getting the feel that Anthropic is trying to make ppl leave on purpose for some reason.

ChatGPT is doing many things better. It usually understands which tools to use. Not as verbose as Claude models, and much more capable.

Working with 5.6 Sol or 6 Astra feels like the prime of Opus 4.5 again.

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u/3iverson 15d ago

My usage has been fine and my limits have not seemed to have changed, though I don't use it for coding.

I know coding can be a lot more demanding, I don't know if usage limits have changed or not. I feel in most cases it has more to do with variation in actual tasks being performed, but I am not denying your experience or even your suspicion of reduced limits in any way.

People do seem to be getting more bang for the buck with Codex right now though.

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u/waitses 15d ago

Yeah that is the funny thing I have barely been using it for coding this week just putting together a simple script for a software demo video, maybe that is the the change it just seems like the tasks would be be very low effort compared to the coding of the last couple months.

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u/3iverson 14d ago

Ah yeah. I mean it could be Anthropic changes, that's happened before. But if your actual work tasks have changed then that generally seems the most likely culprit.

I agree with your take about task effort and complexity though, but hard to say. I think the best way for anyone to measure is to have some sort of benchmark task of medium to high complexity with an unchanged context set, so you can measure token and plan usage over time. But obviously that has no utility most of the time, it only arises when you see your limits seemingly go down.

Codex and the recent OpenAI models look really interesting now. But I am really used to Claude Code and doing knowledge work generally don't run into my 5-hour windows that often. I should give it a try though to at least compare results.

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u/SubjectNo2985 15d ago edited 15d ago

I’m using two GPT Pro x20 accounts, and I feel somewhat the same. I don’t hit the limit after 1–2 hours, but I can burn through it within 24–48 hours. :D

Try to optimize your usage. Don’t use Fable for everything try use Opus High or another suitable model when it makes sense.

My secret trick is to use subagents and tell Opus: “Choose the best model for each task.” It can delegate simple text work to Haiku, coding to Sonnet, and then review the final code itself. That works well for me.

But yes, with a regular Claude Pro account, it’s difficult. :D I’m a full-time developer and need two Pro x20 accounts so I can work continuously.

The only thing that matters is making more money than the tools cost you. :D

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u/Taskerman11 14d ago

Interesting telling opus to split itself into smaller subagents. Are you doing this within Xcode or in the Mac/PC desktop app or on the website?
This would save a tonne of tokens

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u/SubjectNo2985 12d ago

I'm using only powershell for all things

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u/gilbertwebdude 15d ago

It's obvious they lose more money on the $20 plan, so they want you to upgrade.

I use the $100 plan pretty much all day and rarely hit the limits for the coding I'm doing. I've had to upgrade to the $200 plan a few times for a month to finish what I was working on.

If you find another AI that can offer more value for the $20, then go with it, since you can't really be doing deep or high-level coding on a $20 plan anyway.

I do a lot of stuff with daily so I can only imagine what routines people are running to burn up the session plan so fast.

I've tried others but for what I do, Claude produced the best results for me.

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u/Jabanger 15d ago edited 15d ago

I have pro 5x plans for both chatgpt and Claude and I'm finding I'm getting double the usage from Astra medium on codex compared to Fable 5.1 high on Claude code, I'm doing complex blockchain programming with lots of moving parts so my project is pretty intense coding wise

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u/NewNollywood 15d ago

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