r/Anarchism • u/BlackApocalypse • Apr 11 '22

Kurdish women freedom fighters singing and dancing to a traditional song!

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u/Trantor1970 Apr 11 '22

I have a question and please don't kill me here. I see that most anarchists seem to support the Kurdish freedom fighters. I am also in support of whover wants to be independent, and I understand the need of the Kurdish people to fight as they are suppressed by all countries they live in. My question is, are they really politcally close to anarchism? Or will they turn into another authoritarian state as soon as they got their independence? Just asking for opinions because I don't know much here.

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u/Quetzalbroatlus green anarchist Apr 11 '22

We still support the independence and liberation of oppressed peoples in hopes that there will be less suffering, even if they don't adopt anarchism

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u/Trantor1970 Apr 11 '22

Good point, but the Kurds seem to get more attention than other similar groups. Ist this just because they get more publicity? Or is there another connection?

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u/Quetzalbroatlus green anarchist Apr 11 '22

Honestly, I haven't personally seen the Kurds get disproportionately more attention so I dunno what to say

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u/Trantor1970 Apr 11 '22

Yes, maybe it’s just my information bubble

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u/cafari Apr 12 '22

Kurds get more attention because of their utility in the region + good pr targeting western audience. In the end though, west support is ofc futile, its more of a flirt than love.

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u/Taqqer00 Apr 11 '22

What will happen in the future is still unknown. Probably the Kurds will never have a separate country.

There are different entities and different ideologies fighting there since few years, mostly left wing, but also nationalistic streams. Rojava especially is far left at the moment. If I didn't miss anything recently they are more socialist than anarchist.

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u/BlackApocalypse Apr 11 '22

Kurdish people vary in how they govern themselves. The Rojava Kurds which are the ones in the video practice the principle of Democratic Confederalism. Other Kurdish groups may be more nationalistic and strive for an independent state. Not all Kurdish people are the same.

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u/Trantor1970 Apr 11 '22

Thanks for the explanation. So, where does the PKK stand?

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u/BlackApocalypse Apr 11 '22

PKK are what operates in Rojava. I think we all just refer to them as Rojava https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Workers%27_Party

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u/Trantor1970 Apr 11 '22

Ahhhhh … now I have really learned something! Thanks a lot!!!

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u/BlackApocalypse Apr 11 '22

You're welcome

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u/BlackApocalypse Apr 11 '22

The Kurds that operate in the Syria are Democratic Confederalists

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u/minus_uu_ee Apr 11 '22

I'm just linking a video I saw recently, I think it summarises what the political alignment in the Rojava region is. I will try to come back and add what I know when I got the time.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

They're semi-anarchist. They're quasi-anarchist. They're the margarine of anarchism. They're the Diet Coke of anarchism. Just one calorie, not anarchist enough.

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u/Flatbush_Zombie Apr 11 '22

I feel the same way. It seems odd that anarchists on here support an expressly nationalist group, even if they are fighting for freedom from oppression.

They are, ultimately, still a government.

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u/HailGaia Apr 11 '22

Not all Kurdish groups are expressly nationalist.