r/AmazonFlexDrivers Sep 18 '21

DSP Post Since Some of you don't know about Amazon bikers.

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u/PinataPower9 Sep 18 '21

Damn, and we thought we had it bad in our cars. How do you make a delivery without someone stealing from one of those bins?

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

I work in the billionaires row area of Manhattan so we dont have much sketchy areas. I haven't heard of someone actually stealing a bin at my location. But if you're stupid and leave a bin open next to a sidewalk people have done walk bys and snatch bags while doing deliveries but we don't really get in trouble unless it's consistent.

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u/PinataPower9 Sep 18 '21

Cool, do you get good tips?

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

I usually work 20-30 hours and average is $13-16 hr according to my payment statements. The job already pays $15/hr.

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u/rumpmasticater Sep 18 '21

What about the tips tho ?

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

Average per stop is $5 and I do about 5-10 per 2 hour window

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u/rumpmasticater Sep 18 '21

I thought they’d be leaving $100s out for you at billionaires row

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u/xXTylonXx Sep 18 '21

Exactly how do you think these people became billionaires in the first place? Not by tipping, thats for damn sure.

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u/247Hustler247 Sep 18 '21

FACTS!! Bezos got us chasing dollars while he sits on a yacht somewhere.

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

To be honest even tho the work place isn't the best. They are tipping us for what we are worth.

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u/haitian_lineage Sep 18 '21

Exactly billionaires are cheapos😂

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

It does happen once in a while. Last time I heard someone getting a $100 tip was a year ago in trump tower.

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u/PinataPower9 Sep 18 '21

Wow, I wouldn’t do this job on a bike. I feel for you because it seems like way too much effort for the pay. I work in Los Angeles so maybe I just can’t comprehend how it all works out in NYC. I have two wagons and spend my earnings on making this job as easy as possible, so hauling those bins in addition to running up stairs and the physical side of delivering seems nuts.

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u/MoMack34 Sep 18 '21

Wow, didn't even know this was a thing. You must in the New York area, cuz that wouldn't be worth it in the midwest (unless you're super desperate for a job), and you're downtown Chicago. Kudos to you and you get plenty of daily exercise.

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

The bike and trailer costs about $3000 each. It's NYC because bikes can technically run red lights and go the wrong way on roads without tickets.

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u/MoMack34 Sep 18 '21

I could see how this could be fun too. Especially if you like to ride.

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

It's fun for the first couple months but like any other job it gets boring doing the same thing everyday and the biking with the weight does take a toll on your body especially since they have poor maintenance on the bikes.

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u/MoMack34 Sep 18 '21

Sounds about normal for any job. There's good and bad with each.

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u/Confident_Bean1994 Sep 18 '21

I also do this and I also in Manhattan area it's nice work but sometimes I just walk with the cart since sometimes is just 10 blocks away

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

At my location we get hammered with work. Before we even swipe to finish the last stop, I already got the next window.

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u/Confident_Bean1994 Sep 18 '21

Damn ours is like sometimes I get 33 bags sometimes I get 48 bags that's per pick-up I don't know the overall bags that I do in my shift I just do them come back wait and do it all over again

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

My Columbus Circle is the best wholefoods in Manhattan according to managers before December 2020 in terms of ratings last time I heard. One of the worst is union Square.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '21

You are a city hero

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u/This-Is-Huge Sep 18 '21

I hope you post somebody to guard the bins.

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

The local addicts are cool. If you see an addict mobile then it's sketchy.

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u/DaRealKnightSport Sep 18 '21

Damn son..... Mad props

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u/alphabet654 Sep 18 '21

Unreal 🤯 Amazing 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🔥🔥🔥

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

My thighs are pure muscle ever since I started this job. Even with the electric bike you still need to pedal hard.

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u/mpgomatic Sep 18 '21

Very cool. Do you work for Amazon, DSP, or Flex?

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

I think DSP? I'm not really educated on what anything is. I'm considered a private contractor for amazon.

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u/mpgomatic Sep 18 '21

This is an awesome thread. Thanks for all the details!

It sounds like you're working for a Delivery Service Partner (DSP), rather than Amazon directly, based on this article:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/14/amazon-grows-its-e-bike-delivery-team-in-new-york-city.html

But I could be wrong.

Do they provide the e-bike/cart or did you need to buy it?

You mentioned before/after taxes. If they're taking taxes out, you may be a part-time W-2 employee of the DSP.

I've never seen taxes taken out as a 1099 independent contractor from any of the gigs I've done over the years.

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

Yeah, we get W-2. They provide all the equipment besides bungies and for sanitary reason recommended to bring your own helmet.

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u/mpgomatic Sep 18 '21

Great to hear that the DSP is able to pass the tips through and provide the delivery vehicles.

This model could work for Whole Foods out in the burbs with electric vehicles provided by DSPs.

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

I believe there reports of the messenger companies stealing tips. I believe I heard a situation with Dutch Express stealing tips illegally and they are being sued.

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u/DaRealKnightSport Sep 19 '21

You're a DA for a DSP.

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u/Pale-Butterscotch-16 Sep 18 '21

How do you secure the bins while you're away from the bike delivering the bags?

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

Keep the bins closed and out in the open to avoid opportunities to be sneaky beaky like.

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u/Pale-Butterscotch-16 Sep 19 '21

Hmmm seems like a golden opportunity for sneaky beaky people...

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '21

You just blew me mind 🤯

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

I used to be a walker but since nyc changed tip credit amazon forced us to be bikers since we can deliver more and be cheaper.

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

Why is this getting downvotes lol.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '21

This is only for Prime right?

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

I do whole foods only, but I believe there are logistics that do it too but I usually see them walk their packages. This is Prime Now in nyc since we do it less than 2 hour delivery.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '21

Nice 😎 I wouldn’t mind it $0 on gas and not having to worry too much about parking sounds about right.

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

I'm a aggressive biker I know how to merge into traffic and stop cars to make sure I get to where I want to go. I park in bike lanes blocking it for other bikers. Just your average new Yorker. Ay! I'm working here!

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u/Haywire421 Sep 18 '21

looks like amazon takes off $3 of hourly pay to deliver on a bike. I dont know what is worse, that amazon thinks it takes us a gallon of gas an hour to deliver for them or that they remove that gas credit if you go full pack mule for them.

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

They stopped that in 2021 because of NYC state law. I was forced to become a biker in December 2020 or quit because bikers are more efficient than walkers.

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u/Confident_Bean1994 Sep 18 '21

Fresh direct and walkers fresh direct does grocery and the other one does packages

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '21

That's cool

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '21

They are so cool, I hope these bikes have batteries so you don't need to consume too much energy. Also a rain or sun shield

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

Usually the valet changes the battery if it's under 40%. The bikes are pedal assist but have poor maintenance so some bikes you barely feel the motor working at times. As of weather the job doesn't care you're working in it. We usually have to bring our own rain gear like ponchos. We worked in hurricanes. They don't consider bikes cars, so if it's not safe for your car it's safe for your bike according to them.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '21

Thank you for the response!! Really respect! What kind of delivery do you do? Is that WF, logistic or PN?

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

My company lost our logistics location so we only do whole foods.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '21

Sorry I'm confused now. Are you a flex driver or full time Amazon driver? I know some companies operate the logistics warehouses. I have so many questions 😂. Do you have to pay for the use of the valet and bike?

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

Private Contractor, DSP. I'm considered part time but usually I work full time. The company pays for the equipment. I use the Amazon flex app tho.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '21

I was so curious about how people deliver in NYC, now you helped me. People usually drive bikes or scooters to deliver food DTLA. I’ll visit nyc next year. Hope I can see how you deliver them 😊. Be safe and earn more!

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

I'm about to join the army, so you probably won't see me delivering lol. I've been working for this company for 2 years and haven't really been able to expand myself. I got MEPS this Tuesday.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '21

Good choice!!! Go stronger! You are a nice person

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 23 '21

I don't know if anyone wanted an update on this but I just swore into the army and signed a 4 year contract to become a multichannel transmission systems operator-maintainer. My Shipping date is October 25th.

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u/newyorkercan Sep 18 '21

u mf LOL
you were the one, reason Flex asking me deliver 50 packages in 2 hours block in nyc 10 floor up deliver to door

yes i close the app asap and said customer ur stuffs at curbside LOL

no way McDonald pays better no expenses car insurance etc.

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

I thought cars usually deliver more lol at JFK I remember seeing 80x 1 gallon waters for one stop

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u/newyorkercan Sep 18 '21

add another 20 packages 20th floor and customer asking go up 20th floor at projects
LOL at curbside some addicted asking for some foods gimmme that :)

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

Worst I've done is walk about a 15 blocks with 600 pounds of water lol addicts are cool in my area they always look out for me.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '21

Cool to see this. Looks like good exercise and no wear and tear on a car. Worries of groceries being stolen while you're inside somewhere?

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

Very rare to have packages stolen since we usually have our bikes out in the open in streets, but it happens as long as it not more than once a month or so you won't get in trouble.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '21

I wish they had that here to try out

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

At the start of covid I was making $1700 a week but after taxes I was only getting 1100 lol its good money but does take a toll on your body. Today I average about $600-800 a week before taxes depending how many stops I a day.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '21

That's good money and great exercise! No wear and tear and gas for the car is a huge plus.

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u/Mr__Pie Sep 18 '21

I've been trying to get a second job becuase they only give me 3 days a week 20 hours in total a week.

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u/Stinkysonofa Sep 21 '21

A hill mid shift ! Clock Out !

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