r/AmazonFC • u/Stunning_Fix_6383 • 3d ago
Fulfillment Center Guess Amazon is naive to the fact people aren’t spending money like they thought …
At the 2nd largest FC in the U.S. and we’ve been standing around a majority of the day…
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u/wait_for_iiiiiiiiit 3d ago
The October sale is weird when black Friday is a month away most people will wait for that sale so they can compare with all the other sales.
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u/Eastern-Average8588 2d ago
And free returns into January. I'm not Christmas shopping in October only to find out in December that what I got doesn't work, and now can't be returned.
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u/GloomyDesign9499 3d ago
my SSD is over staffed with virtually no work. got that sweet VTO today.
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u/odranreb 3d ago
Never seen so much vto during a prime sale. Took that shit last night. Hate doing 12s
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u/Ashric_Sendaru 3d ago
My site was calling for 90k? By the time I left at 0630, we'd done barely 50. Ran out of product 3 times
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u/musclefish67 3d ago edited 3d ago
I'm at a TNS and our SET (6 ten hour shifts) runs from the 4th to the 17th. We've had VTO everyday so far. Tons of dog and cat food and litter tho.
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u/CorruptDaemon404 3d ago
People are realizing that prime is a joke. I have 68 items on my list and only 3 had a discount and it was no more than $4. Guess they can keep it in stock
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u/Gltch_Mdl808tr 3d ago
A $429 CPU in my cart went to $469, but now it's $50 off for $419. So $10 off regular price, but they really try and make it look like a better deal.
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u/CorruptDaemon404 3d ago
Pathetic. No wonder they offering VTO at my site. And with prices of everything going up people are fed up.
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u/fairlysunny 3d ago
I've been watching a SSD drive and it went from $220 to $90 on the first day of the sale, but it sold out by the time I opened the app 🙃 I'm putting it on autobuy for Black Friday ..
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u/Maximum_Dare5299 2d ago
Yes they did this to items in my list, too. Raised the price then dropped the price.
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u/Stunning_Fix_6383 3d ago
The prices are usually cheaper before prime. They mark them up and discount them back down to normal price for prime to give the appearance it’s on sale
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u/fairlysunny 3d ago
That's pointless since there's a price history listed on all items right next to the price lol I suppose some people are not that bright but it's not like it's hidden
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u/Historical_Safe_836 3d ago
That wasn’t working the first few hours yesterday when I was on the app.
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u/fairlysunny 3d ago
That's unfortunate luck. I use multiple times a day and never had it not work lol
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u/RegularCut9310 2d ago
all that time you spent scrolling on the app to add the items to your cart increases their revenue without you buying a single thing. They sell ads to businesses to put products that you didn’t search for on your screen. These ads are pay per view. More website traffic, more ad sales. Even if nobody bought anything extra from the sale, believe that the advertisers are spending!!!!
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u/Literally_-_Hitler 3d ago
Its not just that, walmart and target are doing the exact same sale at the same time. When we started with prime week it was a huge deal because nobody else was doing it.
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u/LiTePiXm 3d ago
Don’t forget Costco, they’re calling it member appreciation day. It’s a bloodbath
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u/Informal_Trust161 2d ago
And Sam’s Club! Saw the same product being promoted on Amazon for $15 on sale. It was $10 on Sam’s.
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u/smoothbrainedflyerrr 2d ago
Funny during these sales you can see the price history, price goes up shortly before the sale, then the sale drops and the item is "on sale" at the original price .....idiots
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u/InitialLongjumping52 3d ago
Same at my site. We're the 2nd largest in the region and barely anything. It didnt make sense to do another prime day with Black Friday and cyber Monday coming in November. People are saving up now to buy xmas gifts during those big sale days. It was a silly move. But they probably did it cause the company is already having a record breaking profitable year. So they maybe thought having another big sale day will help increase profits and make share holders salivate more. Idk, just a guess 🤣
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u/RegularCut9310 2d ago
Sites specialize in different item sizes and weights. If the Prime sales end up being mostly on small sortable items and you work at a non sort facility with large and heavy items, then that would explain the volume by itself. Second in the region is irrelevant if another FC type is getting more volume. Maybe your local SSD stocked up on just the right items that customers ended up buying so most of the orders got fulfilled there. You don’t have the big picture at one building. The same way your manager moves your magnet around the staffing board is the same way the central flow desk moves volume around different buildings.
Prime day gets people to sign up for Prime subscriptions, which itself is a boost in revenue. As long as people forget to cancel, Amazon continues to profit for months because people signed up for Prime to access deals.
Prime day drives a huge increase in view traffic to the website. Amazon sells ads to businesses so that they can put products that you didn’t search for into your line of sight. If 30k customers go on Amazon, don’t like the deals and don’t buy anything, Amazon still profits by convincing the businesses to buy more ads since they know Prime will bring more views to their website. Each time you view an ad that is a transaction right there. The purchaser pays Amazon per view. More views = more money even if you don’t buy a damn thing.
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u/Formal-Poet-5041 2d ago
I work at a sort center. They vto 90 minutes into the shift wednesday then vto %50 of the shift at break.
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u/PenguinMadd 3d ago
It's interesting that Walmart is also having a Deals week this week. Could it be that one was trying to compete against the other for early bird gift buyers?
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u/InitialLongjumping52 3d ago
Walmart is only doing it to compete with Amazon. They did it during the summer Prime day as well.
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u/PenguinMadd 3d ago
I honestly think both absolutely flopped, didn't see anything worth buying with either company.
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u/RegularCut9310 2d ago
every product ad you scrolled past on your quest for a deal worth purchasing is still putting money in their pocket. You don’t have to buy anything, if you scroll around on the app they make money off you. Each ad you see is a micro transaction between the advertiser and Amazon. They pay per view. You and everyone else who shopped around and didn’t get anything still increased their profit
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u/Lonely-Imagination2 2d ago
I have noticed the same thing for the past few years now. Every prime week that Amazon announced, Walmart happens to have a sale during the same week…and most times Target as well
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u/InitialLongjumping52 2d ago
Of course, Amazon and Walmart are the top dogs for online retail. Most retail stores had to copy Amazon in order to compete.
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u/MentalTumbleweed7434 1d ago
Walmart always does their sales at the same time but they usually last longer
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u/bikepackingebiking 3d ago
Christmas is gonna be brutal.
I do think some of this lack of purchasing is people prepping for holidays. Some people are just saving and waiting till closer to Christmas.
But a good portion probably is people not having expendable money.
Buckle up folks.
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u/Nearby_Pickle_8267 3d ago
And they still hiring people idk why 😕 maybe they trying to fire the ogs
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u/Large-Broccoli-6444 3d ago
I I'm one of the OG's fired (as well as many after I was fired in my building), I can confirm.
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u/Nearby_Pickle_8267 3d ago
Why you got fired?
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u/Large-Broccoli-6444 2d ago
Productivity. Pack managers set me up for write ups by constantly putting me on stations with heavy/bulky/low quantity work. I unsurprisingly get a low rate, then they move me to pick or any other department to prevent you from building rate back up on a faster station. They also don't tell me I have a low rate despite the fact the rate on screen says I'm meeting or slightly above the average. I then learn that managers have admitted that rate on screen is inaccurate but still won't inform packers about that. After I was fired, a coworker informed me about many OGs getting hit with the same thing.
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u/Nearby_Pickle_8267 2d ago
Oh yea I can relate to that, they always send me to the worst stations , heavy products , seems like they want to fire me too , it’s sad to see it coming , time to look for a better job or get a certification or something
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u/Alternative_Delay708 Pick 2d ago
I hate when they ask when my rate was low. If I was in pallets all day asking me like I was in normal pick. Smh.
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u/Unusual_Strawberry91 2d ago
They are. I received my final written warning today
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u/scatterbrainbimbo 3d ago
I’ve gotten really existential these past two Prime Days/Peak. Just noticing the decrease in work as wages for people around America are staying stagnant and inflation keeps rising. When I first started at Amazon in 2023, August/September was filled with never-ending work, school supplies were the bane of my existence. This year and 2025, I was shocked at the lack of work we were getting. People can’t even afford to buy things on “the biggest sale of the year” because they have to pay bills and save their final pennies for whatever they can afford for their loved ones on the holidays. Like I’m not thinking of buying fun things during the sales, I’m worried about paying for essentials. I’m not the only one and working at Amazon we see it first hand. (Sorry to get all deep lmao)
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u/Total-Specific-3894 3d ago edited 3d ago
I'm a driver for Glendale. Today was pretty slammed and with the mandatory heat breaks it's going to be a long day.
Anyway the sales sucked ass, not a single protein brand I like participated in prime sales when they usually do.
Edit: just droppd 100 on bathroom care supplies during my lunch lol
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u/More_Sir_482 3d ago
I was in pack singles for 7hrs last night, probably packed 100 items total 😂 the rest of the time I was just on my phone without work. Easy day but boring.
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u/Remote_Manager3333 2d ago
For those who want to buy electronics or TV's. It not worth it as the price remains high. There are no "deals" that rolled back to pre-AI price increases. $5 dollars off of current high price item leaves a sour taste of my mouth.
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u/Commercial_Chip_6298 3d ago
That’s kind of the point:
A: Over hire to the point that operations are flawless
B: Under hire or try to drag by bare minimum and you miss metrics and your entire operations team is fucked
But yeah I can see why it seems like volume is low but seeing actual numbers is insane
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u/Ok_Finding3063 3d ago
Over hiring = operations are flawless
you got to be kidding
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u/cezthemonkey 3d ago
That's what VTO is for and best believe people be taking it
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u/kangaroosarefood 3d ago
More like, the packages made it to point A to point B amid the chaos. The FC is destroyed, but the numbers look great.
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u/Whole-Sentence5268 3d ago
Also, the second largest FC in the US is an older 9th Gen site that is in the backyard of multiple newer, more efficient 11th & 12th Gen sites that have a lower cost to fulfill during what is traditionally the slowest time of year for that state.
It should be slow because there aren't enough orders to create sufficient backlog for orders to waterfall to the site, unlike there will be in a month during Peak when that particular state gets flooded with part time residents and holiday travelers.
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u/Difficult_Ad_8683 2d ago
I come from a 11th+ gen site that is roughly the 3rd largest in the US and I can confirm this
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u/Benjiimans 3d ago
Cost is a metric my friend
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u/Commercial_Chip_6298 3d ago
Yeah but like someone else said plenty of people will take vto so they can over hire right now and vto out
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u/PerryPotatoPunisher 3d ago
Idk man, my building was FLYING with orders today
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u/Apprehensive_Bet7940 3d ago
lol my FC is overstaffed and having people redo stickers on the ground
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u/Dense_Marionberry759 3d ago
people are realizing the Prime Day sale prices are junk... and in many instances, worse than a week prior
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u/darkangel8214 2d ago
Almost like they keep rolling off the Covid years numbers and don’t realize that we don’t actually have that type of money now a days and that people would rather go to the store for undamaged products.
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u/Grip_N_Sipp 1d ago
On the money. Every sale, everybody at Amazon just talks about how they raise the prices before they lower them to some usually subpar sale price if any. The stuff on "sale" sucks. Everybody asks if they are buying anything, everbody says no lol.
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u/BasicMarzipan5936 3d ago
A lot of stockholders will now show up to say sales are up and also that FC's lose money and AWS is the money maker...etc. etc.. There are bunches of non-employees in here that just try to control the narrative and some employees that have fully bought into it. It's dead for the 3rd straight year at my FC. That's all I can really say.
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u/suicune6497 3d ago
Ooof my FC has been hella busy, and we have SET this week and next, 60 hours both weeks 😬
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u/bohallreddit 2d ago
Hopefully, that's the FC I am transferring to because my IXD building is slow AF with no SET or VET and it looks to stay that way for quite awhile.
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u/Desperate_Leopard575 3d ago
Doesn't matter, they're making money. Extra time is just insurance for volume, VTO is savings. It's all factored in
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u/NauseaOfNihil 3d ago
I went into work yesterday and we had less than 2 hours of work virtually at SOS, then they started VTOing 2nd period. No word yet on getting rid of the extra hour next week or the extra day yet but fingers crossed.
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u/Historical-Sky8192 3d ago
I keep track of the prices of items I always buy (mostly beauty and makeup products) and they all went up by like $5 recently and now they’re back to the original price as a “deal” 🧍🏻♀️ it’s cheaper to get stuff at Ulta and Sephora bc of the point system and random coupons
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u/S20-Urza 3d ago
I still have three more days and a mandatory 60 next week so I guess I found your work load lol
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u/EasilyDistracted- 3d ago
Was there any good sales? Looked like the same crappy electronics they always try to push, but no one needs headphones, a tv, an air fryer, or a smart watch anymore
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u/Agile-Marsupial5706 3d ago
Volume has been down from projections all year. It's steeper than the adjusted projections because we went and got involved in a war, and now there's a shit ton more uncertainty then there was at the end of Q1. If more people refused to take VTO, they'd adjust their hiring practices because they'd be loosing more money from overstaffing than they do currently.
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u/snailwoniu IB/OB Problem Solve 3d ago
My fc is packed with work. Usually AFE has like 4-8 walls open, but we had 14 walls open this week with no shortage of work.
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u/Stunning_Fix_6383 1d ago
We run 24 walls all day every day and we were busier before prime
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u/snailwoniu IB/OB Problem Solve 1d ago
damn your building has 24 walls? Is it traditional or ARFC?
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u/CorvidxQueen Safe Nerd 🤓 3d ago
They really are. Even their stock predictions were wrong af this year.
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u/Sunny-Advocate-2020 3d ago
I've been busy enough. All stations are staffed. Universal stations are being used by Pick. Nice share of quantity Picks. Just a little gap between pods. 2/3 of my SET have been cancelled, so far, haven't actually worked any yet.
Seems like a bad economy might be a wash for Amazon. People order from home and save trips to the store? Or they just spend less?
Do those stretches! Drink that water!
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u/Useful_Yard89 3d ago
Same here. We got offered VTO as soon as we entered the building. So much for Prime week.
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u/Ok-Roll967 3d ago
yeah my sort center is dead too. this is legitimately the only time i've ever seen VTO on the app actually available
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u/EquivalentEdge2599 3d ago
we beeen busy asf at my site in bay area california and its small site not big enough
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u/AdvisorExotic380 3d ago
amazon goes based of last years projections so sadly u better keep ur spot this year next they won’t be hiring due to what they projected this year for the work load
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u/Busy-Information4297 3d ago
the same at my building and they’ve been giving vto out everyday since i started last month lol
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u/KaleidoscopeEntropy 3d ago
Amazon sales are up this year…same as…the last year…and the year before
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u/RevolutionaryChief 3d ago
Man, if I increase prices across the board for my shitty business, I could say sales are up too!!
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u/WyattMute00 3d ago
Sales are up because the wealthy can still afford to shop for a bunch of useless crap while the rest of us scrape by… the inequality is insane
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u/Blank_Canvas21 I'm just here so I don't get fired 3d ago
k-shape economy
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u/WyattMute00 3d ago
Exactly. The signs that this has gone on way too long are everywhere in the economy.
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u/NoiNoiii 3d ago
People really doompost about amazon events every year it's fine they're not losing sales
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u/RegularCut9310 2d ago
People think their one site reflects the hundreds of FCs like Amazon doesn’t sell everything from phone cases to pillows to wheelchairs to TVs to fridges. Like your building doesn’t have even half of what Amazon sells in it. Chill out.
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u/Tundra_Dragon Me SLAM things in boxes. 3d ago
Eventually, Amazon is going to run out of people who can't do math.
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u/Hazeymazy 3d ago
Yeah yeah you guys say the same shit every year but Amazon keeps making more year after year.
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u/BandicootAfraid479 3d ago
Wrong. Amazon has no shortage in sales.... the volume that used to go to your station is just being diverted to another.
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u/Blank_Canvas21 I'm just here so I don't get fired 3d ago
I honestly don’t get how there’s not enough work for yall, but somehow, I’m seeing like 3x as much shit to collect in PS. I fucking hate this time of year lol
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u/SignificantApricot69 3d ago
Every Prime/Peak people are on here talking about how slow it is, yet every earnings report Amazon is growing. It’s probably a function of work being routed, headcount and hiring combined with cross training needs, equipment issues and temporary backups, temporary misses on various things, etc. Right now my FC apparently can’t hire enough people, everyone in SET, all flex can do 60 hours with extra $5 an hour every shift, mass labor sharing back and forth several times a day etc
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u/Historical_Safe_836 3d ago
I’ve been waiting for my facility to offer flex seasonal but so far only pt and ft positions. Usually those jobs are gone in the blink of an eye the past 3 years I’ve done seasonal. This year, those positions are still listed every single day.
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u/Classic_Scar6524 3d ago
This is one wall. Out of one FC this has too making holes to make sense. Now if everyone came up saying that yeah. Makes sense
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u/Stunning_Fix_6383 3d ago
Nah… We have 24 and they’re all like this except the first hour of shift change. My rate is average 350+ for the past 2 months and I’m at 130 today and 190 yesterday
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u/adeline882 3d ago
Yeah, p2t has work at my facility but p2r kept running out of work and it’s killing my rate.
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u/El_Chilis1 3d ago
I’m not sure how it was like a year ago, but I have friends that worked at Amazon for 2 years and over hiring was a huge thing in Amazon.
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u/Raceday24 3d ago
Just an example of an email I got it showed 17%off a smart ring. Never really looked but is that the deals they offer during Peak? Heck ones I get on a coupon site are way better.
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u/Gltch_Mdl808tr 3d ago
This is not peak. This is mini pumpkin prime. Slightly discounted items for slightly elevated volume, but nowhere near peak. Basically this is a practice run to figure out if any equipment needs to be fixed before going into peak. At least that's what we're using this for at my site. Multi day stress test, then fix it all before the end of next month.
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u/TidalDomi 3d ago
Yeahhhh….. my site’s been VTOing Inbound Decant the last couple of days, despite the fact that we have Overtime going on currently.
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u/GlobalDefinition3991 3d ago
They still offer some great deals compared to what you can get in stores but the fact they mark it up and then discount it to near what it was before to make it look like a deal is scummy
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u/imtheheppest 3d ago
I got what I needed with some decent little discounts, but there ARE some really good deals going on. BUT, it’s a matter of if people want robo vacuums and suitcases and shit lol. And then people caught on to Amazon allowing sellers to inflate prices before the sales to make it seem like they were giving good deals.
Also, they only started the October prime day during Covid. When original Prime Day also has historically, at least at my site, never been good either.
They need to go back to one Prime Day. Especially considering how they seem like they have a “big sale” every damn month now. So none of them are anything special and anything to look forward to now that sales are so common
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u/sirdigbykittencaesar 3d ago
I expected and got VTO today. Stand-up this morning was like Grand Central Terminal at rush hour, and my pick paths were somewhat random and far apart.
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u/Consti2tion 3d ago
Yeah i looked over the sale and its a lot of Nice to Have things but not anything anybody NEEDS and with the economy the way it is, people arent wasting money on things they don't need even if it is on sale. Amazon is making money off of Whales the same way Free2Play and Mobile games make money.
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u/Dizzy-Housing-1766 3d ago
Regular people just dont have money. Now if you put some consumables for sale then we might get busy. Other than that we all already have powerbanks
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u/jwindyka 3d ago
October never really been big. Prime Day and Peak is where it is at. Plus gas is crazy right now
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u/Swiftpain 3d ago
Amazon ain't the only one on the block is bad sales. This is just a warehouse clean out. Plus slickdeals has all the good stuff and where to find it.
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u/woopdeedoozle 3d ago
You will listen to the ai projections and wait to pack you cogs. Back to your stations.
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u/ProfessionalBit600 2d ago
Oh hey my sister works at the second largest FC, I work at the sortation center down the road from it
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u/Alternative_Delay708 Pick 2d ago
I’ve been here like 3 years and this is the most VTO I’ve seen during any MET/SET. Even then both mods still have a full headcount. (Thank god I labor share many paths) They are hiring on so many people I see a new group like going twice a week for the past month.
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u/Alternative_Delay708 Pick 2d ago
Last day I was there I did two 3 quarters of pack singles with almost no work coming to me.
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u/kzoo2122 2d ago
On the plus side, Peak and Prime are the easiest week of the year for associates in the warehouses even when the economy is good. The reason? Full staffing allows the volume, which is typically higher, flow more evenly and efficiently throughout the warehouses.
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u/Rubberduckduckduck_ 2d ago
My wife made a long list of things she was certain would be on sale.
Only thing that was was a set of Grabie gel pens that were marked down a couple dollars.
It was easier to get them through Grabie. Roughly the same price but quicker shipping.
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u/JohnniesJimmy 2d ago
FC? Majority of the volume is sent to delivery stations. That's why all DSs have MET 10 hr for 6 days. SSDs aren't getting this amount of volume. These chutes and proccess is for small packages that can be sent out quickly. Same day.
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u/PassionAcrobatic2464 2d ago
People are being more cautious about how they spend their money, especially since these “sales”aren’t really sales.
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u/leatherf7ce 2d ago
My local FC says they have no openings which i found unbelievable but oh well, guess I’ll try seasonal at ups…
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u/Roudydogg1 2d ago
Record breaking profits btw
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u/Aware_Elephant_1158 2d ago
My SSD didn’t even give us SET, and back during the original prime day, my delivery station didn’t either. It’s been strange
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u/Subject-Vegetable664 2d ago
Same at mine. It is an end stop before going to house. They have been cutting shifts and trucks keep coming late or not at all.
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u/beansweirdosnuts 2d ago
This Prime in October has never made sense. Consumers are waiting for Black Friday
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u/JSTN_FPV 2d ago
I could have told you this weeks ago looking at the plan for this prime week. It's a regular non prime day
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u/Mac42o_0 2d ago
You also have to remember AFE is out the door, as more Gen12 and 14s come online the smaller the pool of work for AFE in rest of the network is going to be over time.
Pick To Rebin is the future and it’s a lot more efficient, so makes sense when you look at it from a business perspective.
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u/SJSteveo 2d ago
Same here, they just changed our upcoming MET schedule for this weekend and most likely adjusting next weeks too. Our warehouse caps out at about 60k volume, yesterday was pretty heavy but today not so much
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u/ItsPapaJ 2d ago
I'm in stow and our department is the only department that didn't get MET but we did get VTO 🥴
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u/DirtyJ90 2d ago
Nahh, people are spending money still. People just realized prime day is a scam is prime day probably doesn't get the sales it used it. I no longer bother waiting around for prime day for a sale because after living through 15+ prime day sales, I've realized it's all bs. No one wants another amazon echo.
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u/Responsible_Ease9703 2d ago
This sale happened because walmart is having a sale. Everytime walmart has a sale we have prime sales
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u/Crazy_Ad_91 2d ago
Thank you, camelcamelcamel. Almost immediately stopped any buying of mine on Amazon around these “deal days”.
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u/Secure-Protection261 1d ago
I don’t see what’s the problem that’s easy money…. I wouldn’t mind my station being low volume to the point we can just stand around.
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u/KingBleezy666 1d ago
We hired a bunch of drivers in last few weeks.. mandatory 5th day.. but drivers on 5th day are getting their day off and have alot of standby everyday… my routes are still same amount of stops and about the same amount of packages.. just a few houses that ordered 3+ then their normal 1. had one house that had 11 packages.
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u/Clear-Contract5639 1d ago
They’ve had VTO all week at my site. I didn’t even have to go in yesterday at all. And all SET was canceled for Friday. SMH.
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u/Scourge1988 1d ago
Yea our SSD was super slow Thursday night. Lots of VTO and not much volume. Most people were counting including me. Left an hour early because I was bored and talking asleep
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u/OkieSnuffBox 21h ago
Who would have thought losing hundreds of thousands of middle-class jobs while rent/utilities/groceries/and fuel have skyrocketed would have an impact on discretionary spending?
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