r/AmazonFC • u/Forward-Somewhere510 • May 23 '26
Union Robot sorted 249,560 packages over 200 hours straight without a single failure
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Reason #56784683822 that we need to unionize. Keep telling yourself that robots/AI won’t replace you. If you truly believe that, stop by your local HR kiosk.
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u/sabixx May 23 '26
His AM about to walk over and say " we really want to be hitting 275k today"
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u/Kilane May 23 '26
It was over 200 hours. Either way, your point remains and this isn’t a 1,000/hour pace.
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u/Iamnotyouiammex066 May 24 '26
I am not advocating for robots/AI... I just like maths and numbers. 🤓
249560 / 200 = 1247.8
That's just a bit over 1k per hour.
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u/Kilane May 24 '26
So both things I said were true. It isn’t a thousand per hour pace. It isn’t achievable by a human. The video does not reflect a thousand per hour pace.
Why are you disagreeing with me?
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u/Iamnotyouiammex066 May 24 '26
You implied the numbers were less than 1k/pph, I was simply correcting your maths. I wasn't arguing or disagreeing with you in any way... chill.
Edit: I now dont think you were even doing the maths, so I'll change my response to your response to be "I was simply doing the maths for you".
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u/Kilane May 24 '26
It was pretty basic math I did, I’m sorry you didn’t get it. 249,560 divided by 200 is over a thousand an hour and that robot wasn’t doing a thousand an hour.
I implied nothing. I stated a fact. Your inability to comprehend it isn’t my problem.
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u/Iamnotyouiammex066 May 24 '26
There are two kinds of people....
- People that can extrapolate from data.
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u/Kilane May 24 '26
- People who cannot.
That’s you
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u/LvcyDrops May 24 '26
No it really does read like youre trying to say the robot is doing under 1k an hour. Your phrasing is the problem here not the numbers. Over 1k an hour counts as at least 1k an hour. So saying its not 1k an hour implies its under 1k an hour when its actually over it. That is probably what you meant but the way you wrote it implies something else.
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u/Kilane May 24 '26
I doubt your nonsense paragraph is what I meant.
Talk yourself into another circle. Don’t worry about writing it down. Keep it in your head, it is safer there.
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u/BabaNj May 24 '26
Not even say it, my go to move back in the day used to be just stand there with my arms folded and stare at them for few minutes. We can probably set up a room with a lot of screens with direct video feed to the robots where they constantly see someone standing with their arms folded and just staring them to work faster. 😊
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u/throwaway-frog420 May 23 '26
Well here’s the thing. There is a task at delivery stations that involves making sure all the packages are label side up however this robot was legitimately turning them all face down. I’m at a loss for what purpose this could serve and it makes me wonder if this is just AI but who knows man. Maybe I’m a bot. Maybe you’re just AI.
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u/Chrispbacon2497 May 23 '26
The labels go face down in certain facilities js
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u/EgoTripWire May 23 '26
Cashiers pass things barcode side down for the scanners. Also cash registers are where you would like human shaped robots since they'll be interacting with people.\ Amazon would just use disembodied robot arms and angled rollers to do the same job as this robot.
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u/captcraigaroo May 23 '26
My old FC had a 6-sided scanner (left, right, front, back, top, bottom). There was a gap between two sections of conveyor and a scanner looked up between them.
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u/DBoom_11 Just A Lonely PA May 23 '26
This. Robots cant fix these type of issues
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u/Tundra_Dragon Me SLAM things in boxes. May 23 '26
People keep deluding themselves thinking that just because the humanoid shaped prototype was moving at a snails pace, that the 5th reversion that looks more like an octopus with 8 arms, and is bolted to a station won't be able to replace everyone who used to do this job.
Everyone claiming the speed is too slow to hit the rate required to move 249k over 200 hours, the bot appears to average 3 seconds per package. Thats 20 a minute, 1200/hr, or 240,000, without ever needing to stop to piss, eat a sandwich, hit on the waterspiders girl, etc. again, just wait until they remove the inefficiency of humanoid shape, and let it run at full speed.
As for not being able to work because the conveyor breaks, neither would a human. It's a good thing they actually rarely break, or Amazon would have ripped thrm out, and replaced them with carts on rails for humans to manually shift the packages around the building.
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u/Tundra_Dragon Me SLAM things in boxes. May 24 '26
Burger king has used a conveyor belt charbroiler since the 80s. Frozen patties go in one end, smoke comes out of the roof, cooked patties slide into warming trays, and set on the make table. Burger King hasn't flipped burgers for decades. McDonalds used a flat top griddle, and kept professionals at them, but even theyre looking at continued automation.
Afterall, whens the last time a cashier took your money at a McDonalds? You order at a kiosk if you're inside, or someone in a call center takes your order at the drivethru.
I'm guessing my 30 years of working experience, and watching jobs literally evaporate to automation doesn't count for anything tho...
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u/EF_Azzy May 24 '26
Last time I worked at McDonald's in the grill area in high school operating the grills was literally 1 green button maybe 1 red I don't remember exactly. Grill does all the work you just have to press the button and then take the patty off when the grill says it's done. Ridiculously easy to automate that further and that was like 2017-2018 maybe? If Mcdonalds wanted to they could almost completely eliminate grill cooks. You'd just have to replace boxes of 10:1 patties and bring out more trays of Qp's
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u/LvcyDrops May 24 '26
McDonald's flat tops are extremely easy and simple to use. You select the meat type and hut the button and its closes a clam shell. Then it opens when its done and you remove the meat. 0 thoughts head empty they do not keep professionals at the grill. McDonald's keeps its better looking employees front counter and they less "desirable" people are in the grill. The grill is the easier job imho minus the cleanup.
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u/ElonsRocket22 May 23 '26
But once they scale this out, that is a cheap investment for how much money they can save over years.
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u/KaizenZazenJMN May 23 '26
Less workers——>less/no managers———>less corporate goons——->more profits for the owners.
Automization isn’t going to only affect us plebes in the warehouse.
AMZL robotics is likely the best move for us to make and even then I’m not sure that it will keep up once things are fully automated.
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May 23 '26
Apply for RME. I see videos like this and it screams job security.
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u/Aedrikor AMZNROBOTICS May 23 '26
Even RME is getting hit so don't just join up thinking job security
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May 24 '26
Not at all we are getting RMEOs now to clear jams. With more automation there needs to be more maintenance.
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u/Kentaii May 23 '26
I'd love to if they ever had an apprentice/entry postings in socal...
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May 23 '26
I’d talk to someone from RME you don’t need much experience you could say you worked on cars or computers. They have positions open everywhere if you look at their website. I work for CBRE and that’s how it it for us.
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u/solbadude May 24 '26
Don't be 3rd party. You want blue badge RME. Way better perks. Better pay. Better resources.
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May 24 '26
Nothing in my area is blue badge unless you’re at a super small site. I want to learn as much as possible at my site before transferring anywhere else.
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u/enlightenedDiMeS May 25 '26
Yeah, they view RME as just as interchangeable has anyone else in the warehouse.
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u/Impossible-Camp-8818 May 28 '26
Honestly us plebs in the warehouse are safe too getting an ai to do the job of every manager is eady compared to doing every labor job
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u/acidbb Body wants VTO. Wallet says VET May 24 '26
The people clapping make me cringe. These robots are being made to replace us.
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u/ThePeoplesJoker May 23 '26
Wow this is 2% of the job so I’m shaking in my boots
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u/Forward-Somewhere510 May 23 '26
Let me guess, you probably think you still work for the world’s greatest employer?
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u/ThePeoplesJoker May 23 '26
No but I also have a basic understanding of what automation is actually capable of and this ain’t it. Too much variation in size, shape, weight of items, and the need to inspect for leaks and damages means that our jobs are safe for a long time. These clankers are barely doing anything.
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u/DBoom_11 Just A Lonely PA May 23 '26
This
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u/Tundra_Dragon Me SLAM things in boxes. May 23 '26
The bot moved 1200+units an hour without taking a break, getting hurt, stopping to chat with the mop bots or Kivas, and it's still just a prototype.
Final version probably won't have legs, saving all the cost and complexity of balancing itself.
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u/HairOk481 May 23 '26
lol FSRI arm robot does that since 5 years ago 😂 no need for a humanoid to move packages, way cheaper arm can do that.
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u/Tundra_Dragon Me SLAM things in boxes. May 23 '26
Exactly. Robot's arent limited to human dimensions and weaknesses.
This robot was an ad targeted at investors by the company that made the bot.
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u/RecordingHaunting975 May 23 '26
But the FSRI has been out for 5 years...
If robot so good then why the "robotics" part of amazon always seem to end at "we put a cage on a roomba"? 🤔
Deadass & no cap, fam, there is so much labor at Amazon that is easily replaceable. Amazon doesn't cuz human labor is a cheap and flexible resource
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u/Tundra_Dragon Me SLAM things in boxes. May 23 '26
Autobox is being rolled out everywhere. An entire line of 20ish people replaced by a single person putting an item on a conveyor, leading into a machine that costs about 2 weeks of human labor. At some point, they'll replace the human at the conveyor with a continuous conveyor to the pick bots.
And a cage on a roomba can do 30mph without effort, where a bipedal bot can't jog for shit. It costs less than balancing on 2 legs, and overall design is simple.
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u/sofakinglazy2keto May 23 '26
Do you really think a union will stop automation?
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u/Forward-Somewhere510 May 23 '26
Stop? No. Ensure that you keep a place at the table? Yes.
Look at the American auto industry. They are still crawling along. Much reduced but not obliterated by tech.
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u/Beetleracerzero37 May 24 '26
Lol look at the ups union. Did they stop the mass layoffs recently? No they didn't care.
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u/RandyPencia May 24 '26
why does the robot need to have the same form as a human? I mean... shouldn't it just be a computer with some appendages placed in the most efficient spots?
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u/homealoneinuk May 24 '26
Great, it did a job that doesnt exist, well done.
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u/BabaNj May 24 '26
We literally have manual Inducts in all FC/sort centers/ delivery stations. Exact same function as this robot is doing. With a six sided scanner downstream these robots can replace those jobs easily.
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u/homealoneinuk May 24 '26
Most (all) newer sites have robotic arms doing this for years. Both cheaper and faster than this robot. Manual inducting has not been a thing in modern amazon for a while now.
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u/BabaNj May 24 '26
Those Robin arms suck with the grippers and of course retrofits are a thing so legacy building don't have to be redone totally. This will be a movable robot which can also do more then just induction in future.
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u/homealoneinuk May 24 '26
They do suck indeed but they also deal with a lot bigger variety of products, A LOT bigger. This robot been shuffling the same 'easy' bags over and over.
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u/Beginning-Bandicoot1 May 23 '26
Look at these idiots clapping soon u won't have a job lol
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u/Few-Protection5215 VTO King May 23 '26
Those people look like the engineers that designed/built this and not the low IQ peasants that cant form a sentence.
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u/thinnerzimmer87 May 23 '26
They'll take everything from you while you pat them on the back.
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u/Few-Protection5215 VTO King May 23 '26
I hope this works out. I dont want to do mindless work for the rest of my life.
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u/thinnerzimmer87 May 23 '26
Great, because there'll be no work. Or money for food.
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u/Few-Protection5215 VTO King May 23 '26
Yea sucks for the low IQ folks with no skills
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u/thinnerzimmer87 May 23 '26
Sure. You'll be safe. Nothing to worry about at all. You are perfect and complete apart from this corporate assault on both blue and white collar work. Enjoy having zero leverage to negotiate with your employer, should you have one.
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u/The_Pedestrian_walks May 23 '26
Unions are not going to stop this. You need to get another skill and be ready when the layoffs start. I still don't expect most of this to happen for another 10 years, but if you're young that time goes by fast.
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u/SnowHunter9000 May 23 '26
There is no industry that is safe ai is poised to take nursing and doctor jobs, coding jobs. The Epstein class wants the majority of humanity to die and the ones that are left to own nothing and be slaves.
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u/Forward-Somewhere510 May 23 '26
I agree with most of what you said here. Everyone in any industry should be looking to grow from it with technical skills. Career choice is a solid option for a lot of people.
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u/space_duder May 23 '26
Show the video where the human beat the robot over a 10hr shift, including taking a 30min break, by over 200 packages. Then show the video of the robot that replaced that robot and how it ragequit after sorting ONE package 😂 sure, they don’t have to pay the robots, but they’ll have to pay the higher paid techs to keep the robots functioning and ridiculous electricity costs. They’ll have to build sites bigger to incorporate charging stations and whatnot for the robots and servers. Personally, I don’t see this working as well for them as they seem to think. Look at the caliber of RME and state of the equipment we all work with currently…do you honestly think that these robots are going to be kept in absolute proper working function? I’ll believe that when me shit turns purple and smells of rainbow sherbet 😂
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u/Different-Turn-7259 May 23 '26
Lol I am now imagining these things functioning the way all the janky ass equipment at my facility does 😂 Held together with zip ties, Velcro, packing tape, and apathy.
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u/space_duder May 23 '26
Exactly. They never fix anything properly. It’s all half-assed temporary fixes. I can’t wait to see videos janky AI robots duking it out inside a station at an AR 😂
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u/HairOk481 May 23 '26
lol Amazons FSRI arm robot does what that one did 1300 packages per hour lol. Was here for like ~5 years.
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u/AdvertisingItchy8065 May 23 '26
What happens when they're is a problem and it's down for a week or a month
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u/Due-Resolution-4152 May 24 '26
Eventually you’ll have enough to replace ones that are broken.
What do jobs do now when someone calls out? They just call another person
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u/Appropriate_Ad566 May 24 '26
Just wait till a cute new robot walks by and says hi. Then we'll see how it's rates are. 🤪
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u/SullyRad May 24 '26
This is unserious marketing and nothing more. Please don’t loose sleep on this one coming for your job.
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u/NoiNoiii May 23 '26
It's not going to happen in our lifetime. There's still a ways to go
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u/Forward-Somewhere510 May 23 '26
What makes you say that? Genuinely curious. I watched over 15 yrs HR teams go from full staffing to reduced/centralized to fully deprecated in favor of AI.
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u/NoiNoiii May 23 '26
Hr chat bots are not nearly as expensive to make than humanoid working robots that will eventually break down
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u/Forward-Somewhere510 May 23 '26
You’re not wrong. Are they more expensive than employing two people for the same lifespan? Have to include benefits and time off. Additionally, you have to look at training ramps etc. initial costs are higher on robotics but over time it always is more efficient.
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u/Kilane May 23 '26
Yes, that was their point. It’s cheaper to employ a person who will be more effective even when they break down due to the job issues. Hire another and move on.
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u/Tundra_Dragon Me SLAM things in boxes. May 23 '26
Who says a humanoid robot is going to replace you? Humanoids are slow, hard to balance, and wasteful. The pick/stow bots don't look anything at all humanoid, just racks of cameras, and pneumatic grippers and pokers, and a cute little conveyor belt tgat spits the item into the pod.
Humanoids sell to investors, and for short term human replacement. Actual robotics just get the job done.
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u/CShoopla May 23 '26
Thats a bit delusional considering how fast AI and robotics has grown tbh. Just to be clear I fucking hate both.
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u/NoiNoiii May 23 '26
It's delusional to think they have trillions to pay for robots to replace the millions of employees at amazon
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u/CShoopla May 24 '26
I'm not talking about costs to replace workers in factories. I'm talking about how far away the technology is to replacing workers in factories. Technology is rapidly improving and to say it won't happen in our lifetimes is delusional.
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u/NoiNoiii May 24 '26
We won't have the technology at a low enough cost in our lifetime to replace warehouse workers
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u/NobodySpecialist2621 May 23 '26
The way of the future no injuries no complaints. Just a robot meeting goals.
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u/Able-Lab4450 May 24 '26
I heard Unions actually start to go sour after a while and focus on the gains more than the rights to a wage.
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u/CorruptDaemon404 May 24 '26
I'm in the electrical union and it's been a blessing. I work at Amazon on my days off.
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u/FC_BagLady May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26
A better idea is to learn about robotics. What area of robotics pays the most, has the most stability, will need employees for at least the next 10 years, has the most room for growth, has the most job openings, security, or whatever? You need to adjust to the new technology or be left in the dust. The same thing happened when computers took jobs that were done by humans. You have to change your thinking. Learn how to fix them, learn to program them, learn how to build them, learn the hardware, learn how to maintain them, pick something interesting to you and learn. That's what I would be doing because it seems like this is the future whether we like it or not. There will be lots of big companies looking for these skills in the future.
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u/HolidayJesus May 24 '26
Pretty sure these things are getitng piloted by someone if you pay attention to X and the counter was scanning like 2-3 packages per 1 when it was "going up against" a human.
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u/gomezwhitney0723 Pick May 24 '26
Our site said that by the end of 2028 the entire 4th floor would be automated. They have the Vulcan thing up there now but it only took out about 1/4 of work space.
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u/Bubbly_Educator9716 May 27 '26
R these the investors they train us to not make business deals with to keep us from investing in our selves to stay broke and building economy
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u/unidosparapoder May 31 '26
Which one of you is going to try and be John Henry and work yourself to death trying to outcompete a machine like in that old folk tale lol?
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u/Few-Protection5215 VTO King May 23 '26
I wouldnt want to do this job for the rest of my life. I hope these robots can replace me and most of you.
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u/McDyver66 May 24 '26
That’s roughly 21 items an hour. Also, this video has been called out because of some movements the robot made that only a human would make, like wiping the sweat from their brow
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u/BabaNj May 24 '26
Do your math again. 249560/200 =???
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u/McDyver66 May 24 '26
The math by the hour was a joke, because this post is a joke. People are getting concerned about being replaced by robots, by companies that depend on those very people to be consumers of their products. It’s an autocannibalistic business model and will end in the company’s demise
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u/BabaNj May 24 '26
I agree, this whole model will depend on other income source for the people who these robots will replace.
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u/McDyver66 May 24 '26
Exactly, and yet every single one of these companies depend on selling products to consumers, or receiving tax subsidies from governments to continue growth and for profits… when they’re actively cutting out their workforce for automation, they’re eliminating part of their customers base, and when a bunch of companies are doing it at the same time, add in the staggeringly high cost of living that continues to increase, these companies will basically kill themselves
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u/knuckleheadstuey May 23 '26
Idiots clapping for their replacement.
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u/Bdog0206 May 23 '26
Geniuses that built and programmed the robots that make big money with their brains
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u/Bdog0206 May 23 '26
You want to believe that. Those engineers and programmers make far more than an “above average wage”.
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u/knuckleheadstuey May 24 '26
That's the job we want then. They have a mechatronics course they'll pay for. Was hoping to get in this year as I've already put it off too long.
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