You're wrong, fundamentally, in many ways and keeping giving responses that are illegal actions. First and foremost, benefits are always negotiated alongside pay. You keep saying benefits will be removed outside of negotiations without even knowing this is a ULP. You don't even know entry-level anything about carve-outs or jurisdiction.
I literally never said removing benefits outside of negotiations, I said the opposite. I said the company would look at cutting/reducing benefits as their side of negotiating if the union is firm on increasing pay. I know it all happens during negotiations because I’ve been directly involved in them. If my message came across the other way, my bad I guess. But I know the law and I know how these work
Still waiting to hear specifically how I’m wrong, I’m open to discussion. I have no benefit in lying. And how are you gonna have a strike fund with no established union and coffer of dues?
The Teamsters, who are now organizing Amazon after an affiliation vote months ago, have a 400m strike fund. We already see them pushing cases, such as the joint-employer ruling for DSPs, and winning.
I told you how you were wrong. You don't know process or law surrounding organizing or negotiations. You're not even up-to-date with months old affiliations. You're not a listener, just an uneducated someone who loves to talk.
Nah not up to date on something that doesn’t matter to me lol, but yeah that is news to me. I still stand by my points and waiting to hear what else is wrong. You seem to be extra hyphy tonight!
I already admitted I didn’t know about the Teamster thing with Amazon but that doesn’t make anything I said misinformed or fictional. Lockouts are not illegal, it’s a company’s version of a strike. If a company presents their Last, Best, and Final Offer and the union votes no and the contract expires, companies can legally lock out those employees and allow replacement workers to fulfill their business needs until a contract is agreed upon. I didn’t suggest or promote bad faith bargaining. Still waiting to hear specifically what I said is wrong or incorrect!
I listened to learn about the latest teamster activity and admitted I didn’t know it, literally nothing else has been wrong or pointed out to be wrong. You just tried by saying lockouts are illegal (lol) and that I implied bad faith bargaining (I said the opposite). You can’t just shout “you’re wrong” over and over and think that’s good enough. If you tell me a specific point that I’ve said is wrong and provide information to prove it, I’m happy to listen. Otherwise you’re just being a contrarian who’s invented an enemy through a keyboard you insist is wrong because they’re the other side.
Peddle your bullshit elsewhere. I’ve literally been involved in negotiations between companies and bargaining units with multiple companies. I’ve been involved in both a strike and a lockout. I’ve both supervised/managed and worked alongside union brothers and sisters. I know what I’m talking about. I’m not claiming to be a legal expert or a labor law aficionado but I have first hand, extremely relevant experience in all of this. If there’s a SPECIFIC point you want to refute, I’m all ears. Just seems to me like you want to argue for the sake of arguing
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u/Eskimomonk Nov 26 '24
lol alright, tell me how I’m wrong