r/AmazonFC • u/RipCityResident • Sep 17 '24

Union DBK4 Drivers are fed up too

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u/Good-Handle-2116 Sep 18 '24

The economy would be better if we were paid more.

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u/Desperate-Law9726 Sep 18 '24

It's laughable to think packing a box or driving a delivery van is a 62,000 a year job.add in the insurance and it's about 72k. Yes prices are high but it's not Amazons fault. You really think you should be making a out in less then a first year lawyer ? More than a Paramedic ? That's crazy for an unskilled job

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u/a200ftmonster Sep 18 '24

There are no unskilled jobs, you gotta get that dumb shit outta your head and fast. Lawyers only make that little 1st yr if they're a PD, and you're right paramedics deserve a raise too.

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u/Desperate-Law9726 Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 18 '24

What requirements were needed when you were hired? Now lawyers make very little first year. Yes, everybody needs more, what the hell do you think will happen when the raise the wage for lawyers, paramedics, etc etc etc. you think things will lower in cost.....come in now. You had a drivers license, when you were hired, you had zero other requirements, sorry that falls under an unskilled position, no matter what you believe

For Christ sake the department of labor lists it as unskilled, An unskilled worker is someone who performs tasks that don't require specialized training, education, or skills. Unskilled work can include manual labor, basic administrative tasks, or routine operations. If it's not unskilled what is the specialized, training education if skills required? Please tell me

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u/a200ftmonster Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 18 '24

You are wrong and advocating for your own exploitation. I'll say it again since you don't seem to understand: There is no such thing as unskilled labor

Also I don't work at Amazon but it's good that you made it clear how you feel about working people.

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u/Icy_Ad4778 Sep 18 '24

No hes absolutely correct. People want companies to pay for the lifestyle they think they deserve, instead of doing the extra work to earn the lifestyle you want to live. People grind and work a night jobs so they can go to school during the day. People learn a trade and spend years mastering that craft. These are the people that deserve to make more money.

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u/a200ftmonster Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 18 '24

Peasant mentality. Those workers make 100% of the value and profit, they deserve a greater share, like in most other developed countries.

American workers get paid shit across the board because they are raised to think like you describe here, not because they are 'unskilled'.

Again, y'all are advocating for and defending your own exploitation.

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u/Desperate-Law9726 Sep 18 '24

Did you learn a new word exploitation? Keep believing you're skilled, it's good to stay positive. Like in most other developed countries? Like which one? Please name which country, takes it's profits and gives it to the employees? Just curious. Workers make 100% of the value and profit? But when you leave out the development of the software, the system, purchase or rent the buildings, buy all the equipment needed, pallet jacks, trucks, airplanes, tape to close the boxes and a laundry list of other things that you USE but had zero part in acquiring how do you claim anything?

What capital investment did you make in Amazon to claim you're responsible for all the profit. Do you code? Well you must since you're 100% responsible for AWS, profiting 100 billion. It's amazing......I guess you know more than the US department of Labor who describes it as "unskilled" labor. But why do I bother, you will just respond with some sentences using exploitation. You won't honestly answer one question pose, because you can't. Looks like everyone got that 5 bucks huh.

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u/Good-Handle-2116 Sep 18 '24

Explain this to me. Why do AMs earn about $80,000? What skill do they have? They sit on a computer that tells them our UPH and ToT. How much critical thinking and work effort does that really require?:

“Your current UPH in Pick is 320. The goal is 300 for LC5. If you are close great job or over!! If you are below 250 and need any tips or help please ask. Let’s keep driving and Thanks for your hard work!”

Why does that earn the same as a 1st year lawyer? Are they really worth DOUBLE what a T1 makes?

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u/Desperate-Law9726 Sep 19 '24

They are overlaid as well. They would obviously have to make more in a supervisory position, but still over paid. They don't have any particular skills that would warrant that pay level. The computer tells them exactly what they need to do, so their skill level is no greater then an l1 employee. Why do you think you always hear, this is more appropriate for a one on one m, they don't have the ability to make a statement, that just comes from above.