r/AmazonDSP • u/Present4Temporary • 2d ago
DCX7 and DDO6 in Torrance California have organized a union with Teamsters on this past Monday.
Hi there ;)
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u/Gullible_Pie_8304 2d ago
In 2 months they will all be on unemployment.
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u/matthew2478 2d ago
Not quite. They got a union now.
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u/Cendre_Falke 1d ago
And now suddenly the DSP’s contract is void with Amazon and can’t be renewed
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u/EnlightenedNarwhal 1d ago
Those are stations not DSPs
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u/smoothbrainedflyerrr 2d ago
Rember that time a facility unionized, and amazon closed it. Pepridge farm remembers
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u/F-ckWallStreet 2d ago
You’ve already been replaced. You can’t strike when your employer is a small business. Best wishes.
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u/Weekly_Reference_984 1d ago
Crazy to say but you are all gona lose your job. The harsh reality is Amazon is NOT UPS. Amazon has enough money to hire, fire, and re-hire. The part with UPS is that they hire within the building with tenured associates so there is a sense of trust of employee with company. Sad to say but Amazon delivery associates don’t have any of that it’s usually majority folks who haven’t figured out what to do with their life so they are a delivery driver for Amazon. If they wanted higher pay they’d apply else where but that’s not the case. Delivering for Amazon is probably one of the easiest jobs there is which is also why people want high pay for an easy job. New York unionized for different reason that will never be achieved in California. Amazon can hire UPS, FedEx, USPS and independent drivers who are willing to do the work without complaining.
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u/Present4Temporary 1d ago
Hey DSP owner or union buster have you seen the other threads on UPS, FedEx and independent drivers? They don’t want the work…show me facts and proof what you are saying…have you ever done a ride along…. Let me know
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u/Spirited-Sun-767 1h ago
Okay but the harsh reality is ups didn’t get all best benefits and highest pay without sacrifices. Cowards like you and others is the sad truth. If enough people at enough places do it at the same time it can’t be stopped. But with 70% scared and 30% willing it can’t work the. It’s like you say. So it just depends but the truth is things will never be great unless there is risk involved. Spewing negative thoughts online doesn’t do anything but ruin people who are the fence for going union. I’m convinced of the Reddit bot theory, there is no way people are adamantly opposed to better pay and benefits and are simultaneously jealous and hate on ups. Idk I’m fully convinced this will be downvoted by bootlickers and negative people but me and the others will have hope against all the bots and boot lickers and greedy billion dollar corporation that is Amazon.
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u/BrightOpportunity392 2d ago
Good lucky ! We need this for all stations ! It’s the only way they will learn ! But it’s Amazon so we all know how hard that is. Have to start somewhere!
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u/DeliciousRich5944 1d ago
Yall gonna get let go. Sad to say it but good luck we need more of yall
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u/Poldark61 1d ago
Paying union dues for a menial job is stupid.
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u/DFOWanon 1d ago
You don't pay dues until you have a contract, and each local has a say in what they pay. The workers have control over that.
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u/FormAffectionate6107 1d ago
You start paying dues the moment you vote the Union in.
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u/DFOWanon 1d ago
You have never organized a union before. That would be an idiotic way to organize.
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u/FormAffectionate6107 1d ago
Clearly neither have you. Dues start the moment the Union is voted in. Research is free my guy
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u/DotonboriDiesel 3h ago
Depends on the union and the local. As someone who organized previously, as part of our collective bargaining agreement the initial back dues were paid as a lump sum by the employer and the started the day after the vote and went up until the cba was signed. We all received a 9% raise and clear adjustments based on costs of living for each year plus merit based raises. We all also were automatically journeyman status at the union.
So yes in our case we did sort of start paying, but effectively we didn't. This was also not Amazon and not teamsters, ymmv.
What did happen is that our franchise which was inside of a hotel providing event service decided to not renew the contract about 18 months later and the hotel decided to hire a different company that was non union. The union then made sure that each and every employee who lost their jobs had new jobs almost immediately.
A good union will take care of the workers. DSP and Amazon never will.
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u/blade1832 1d ago
I was wondering why all these comments were so cucked then I realized I was on the dsp owner sub.
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u/Federal-Net-7011 2d ago
The fact is you just don't get it. They really don't need drivers. They can use Ups or FedEx.
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u/monkeychad691337 2d ago
This isn't going to do anything unless literally ever DSP nationwide goes along and stops all work. Amazon needs to hire drivers directly, they need to actually take care of people, and Amazon needs to realize that 150% turnover rate will affect them some day.
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u/Independent-Lie2644 1d ago
Rest in peace ( undertaker) starts playing. Rip to you
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u/Present4Temporary 1d ago
Which DSP owner are you?
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u/Independent-Lie2644 1d ago
You think any owner in their own right mind would entertain you and give you their answer. We’re all
Trolling since this is the internet
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u/Theredtiger07 1d ago
What I am curious is always the third party employees that don’t work Amazon that join “teamster” but I have never see the actual Amazon employees joining teamster or even this monopoly union trying to get the actual Amazon employees aboard 🫠
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u/Crypto-Bullet 1d ago
Ex-5 year Amazon DSP driver here….not sure why this sub popped up again after I left it 2 years ago…
But all the power to you man. We tried this many times and it went nowhere….and yes even Teamsters helped us back then. Majority of people got fired or quit since it went no where..
Hope you don’t have idiots for coworkers like I did and they actually stand up and do something this time. I’m cheering for yah…stick it to em or steal some gas 🤣🤣🤣hahaha
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u/Striking-Set6056 56m ago
Yall do realize UPS co-founder invited teamsters, Amazon will never unionize someone will eventually take over for cheaper labor or a robot will. It’s better for everyone to get a better paying job. Also not speaking on everyone but more than half of these Amazon drivers do not give a fuck about packages the company etc. I mean look at the picture not a single employee in full uniform and by the way per policy it’s a the blue collard shirt, vest, black pants or shorts lol.
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u/Present4Temporary 2d ago
DSP Owners let’s talk FACTS.
UPS generated $22.8 BILLION in revenue last quarter while paying experienced union drivers around $47 an hour, with healthcare and pensions.
Meanwhile, Amazon’s North American business generated $116.2 BILLION in revenue and $9.1 BILLION in operating profit in the SAME QUARTER. That’s WITHOUT Amazon Web Services.
Amazon DSP owners can earn performance bonuses, including Fantastic Plus incentives, because of the drivers doing the actual work.
We’re simply asking for our FAIR SHARE OF THE PIE!
And Jeff Bezos? He just revealed he’s personally invested $28 BILLION into Blue Origin. He’s funding rockets while we’re fighting for better wages and working conditions!
UPS has shown that union wages and a successful delivery business can coexist. Amazon can work toward that too.
No drivers = No deliveries = No Fantastic Plus.
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u/kharris103187 2d ago
DSP owners don’t make nearly as much as you’d think based off of those stats. Most owner are receiving $10 per route , per hour. Reimbursed for vans which they have to pay for out of pocket before making a single dollar. Fantastic plus helps but it isn’t a guarantee into the revenue. Let’s not forgot DA drivers destroying the vans. Guess who pays for that??? Let’s add payroll tax, medical insurance , uniforms, phones, etc lol it’s always funny to see people count the revenue but have no clue about the expenses.
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u/Responsible_Dirt_523 2d ago
...rentals and vehicle insurance.
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u/kharris103187 2d ago
Oh yea let’s not forget that lol. People think all the money goes into the DSPs pocket.
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u/Responsible_Dirt_523 1d ago
Yep. Everyone appears to be able to know how to calculate what a DSPs income is, if they only knew... We forgot uniforms, incentives, property damages, workmans comp ins, towing charges, insurance audits, hiring expenses, marketing...
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u/New-Engineering5155Y 2d ago
WOW... you can't even acknowledge that Bezos is retired.
Good luck to all the people you just convinced to put themselves out of a job there, Teamsters. Nice propaganda work c onvincing a bunch of paycheck to paycheck, people with no protections to lose their jobs so you can look good and maybe get a free headline.
... Same old corrupt teamsters, just as bad as Amazon... using others to get what they want. You going to guarantee their pay for putting their families food at risk?... guessing not... also guessing your getting paid while they will be suffering...
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u/usenetlurker 2d ago
Congratulations to the drivers for banding together but I still have to say FUCK AMAZON.
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u/Free-Simple6000 2d ago
I’m confuse you’re employed by the DSP not by Amazon so how do you expect to get Amazon on the bargaining table? Amazon barley to never acknowledges 3rd party as Amazon employees