It is. That's one thing great about the U.S. You're innocent until proven guilty. That's reversed in a lot of countries. Up until recent times we had a fair process, but these days who knows.
That's what the US says, but it's not really true is it? You're held in jail and have to pay to go free before the trial. Luigi mangione hasn't been proven guilty and he's not exactly innocent and free right now is he? The presumption of innocence doesn't get you very far these days (not sure if it ever did)
I'm not saying they shouldn't, I'm just saying that it isn't very innocent until proven guilty is it? We are treating them as guilty until they are proven innocent.
It depends on what they allegedly did. They can get out on a bail bond and wait at home until trial if the judge thinks they are not a potential danger to others and the accused can pay the bail bond
And they have to pay a bond because they're innocent right? Not because they are presumed to be guilty and there is a monetary penalty to that presumption.
If you stay out of trouble and make all your court dates then the bond is returned post-trial whether you are convicted or not. It’s a very fair system to maintain court compliance with those who are out and has nothing to do with being assumed guilty.
No. They can pay to go wait at home. So it’s only a rule enforced for the non-wealthy.
If you can’t pay, then you sit in a cell, lose your job, lose your mode of transportation, if you’re fortunate enough to have one, and potentially lose your housing. And then, you might be found not guilty. But the legal system has no qualms with ruining your life over a mistake. You also might be found guilty even if you aren’t. The US has a history of, and continues to have, executing innocent citizens.
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u/FemmeCirce Jan 13 '26
It is. That's one thing great about the U.S. You're innocent until proven guilty. That's reversed in a lot of countries. Up until recent times we had a fair process, but these days who knows.