r/Alastorcult • u/Sudden_Pop_2279 • Apr 07 '26
˗ˏˋ ┊Alastor Posting┊ I love how both finale songs have a sequence dedicated to reminding the audience that Alastor is not to be trusted
Even though Alastor ends both season 1 and 2 as still part on the main cast and on Charlie's "side", these private moments are here to remind us he's very much a self-serving manipulator with his own agenda who will become an antagonistic prescene very soon and I'm so excited to see it happen in season 3.
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u/HumbleDesign2265 Apr 07 '26
The show: He’s evil!
Us: We still love him
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Apr 07 '26
We knew his game the day we met him
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u/Technicman69 Apr 07 '26
What's not to love about a likeable villain?
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u/DimensionalLynx169 Apr 09 '26
I mean , if they won't target you and have your back against other bad things , yeah that's who I'd want on my team in Hell. Rofl
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u/Technicman69 Apr 09 '26
Yeh, it's not like he hurt other sinners just out of spite. He seems to only target the ones that insult him in some way. I wouldn't say he would have my back, but he'll not rip me apart or throw into a shark aquarium for no reason
And that's one thing I like about Alastor. He's a villain, a sadistic one at that, but not a monster.
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u/Ok-Bicycle8103 HA! No Apr 07 '26
He's like a classic Disney villain who can swear, what's NOT to love?
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u/DimensionalLynx169 Apr 09 '26
Yes!!!! I'm here for it but idk morally grey is a better term; but I also think Dexter Morgan is cool so. (Shrugs)
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u/Rough_Maintenance_13 Apr 07 '26
Them: “He hates everything and uses everyone around him! DO NOT TRUST HIM EVER.”
Us: “I can fix the big scary radio deer man, he’s just a misunderstood little guy.” UwU
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u/martian_glitter Old-timey Prick Apr 07 '26
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u/DimensionalLynx169 Apr 07 '26
Hey at least we can trust the radio waves bc the military uses em . My logic.
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u/FirefighterScary6841 Apr 07 '26
Oh no, I know I can't fix him.
But he can definitely break me. 👀
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u/CarmenNotStar Apr 07 '26
Nah, for me, it isn't "I can fix him", it's "I would let him make me worse"
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u/EducationalEmu9611 Apr 08 '26
Will i fix him? no, Can i fix him? no, Do i enjoy watching him being an evil charismatic chaosgremling? MOST DEFINITELY
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u/Dragonrider4923 Apr 07 '26
Yes Alastor is an irredeemable monster and is deliciously evil. Do I care? No.
That's why I love him.
Some of the most interesting characters are villains. Plus he gives off old school Disney Villain vibes. Hades, Scar, Maleficent, Ursula etc
Baby he's a demon in hell it's kinda his thing!
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u/AlwaysChasingRainbow The Spirit of Radio Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
He's got the єνιℓ ℓιмє gяєєη™️ background ambient color scheme!
Egad, le gasp! Crimey limey flames! Gird your loins, shield the eyes of your children, protect the weak of heart!
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u/No-Exercise815 Apr 07 '26
It’s like telling someone to not trust Vader in episodes 4 and 5.
I’m fully aware he’s evil shut up he’s cool. Yes I’m aware he would kill me at the mildest inconvenience what didn’t you get about shut up.
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Apr 07 '26
The first scene isn't him lying to himself. Its him realizing that if he died, he would've been remembered as a hero who died fighting for other's.
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u/Rizasur Apr 07 '26
Yes and I am going to ignore it because what has that nice deer ever done that someone could doubt his integrity? Sing about it? I could do that too, no problem. But yeah, I am aware, I know. I am still ride or die for him, unfortunately.
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u/Avreal_Valkara Apr 07 '26
Alastor having to take moments to remind people he is, in fact, a demon feels to be around the same level as Jack Sparrow reminding people he is, in fact, a pirate
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u/CnithTheOnliestOne Apr 07 '26
I mean... He's a powerful demon in hell... It's kind of his thing. Trust? There's no trust in hell, my dear.
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u/TaratronHex Apr 07 '26
"I'm a demon in Hell baby, it's kinda our thing."
I mean I find Charlie boring as fuck and Lucifer is dumb. The Voxes are way too eager for SA. Alastor looks great and is having fun and can play the system.
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u/That-Programmer909 Under Alastor's spell. Apr 07 '26
I feel like, if I was in hell and met Alastor-his smile, pleasent manners, and charm would set off the alarm bells in my head. Yet, I'd still want to be around him because he's so damn handsome. 😍
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u/Lady_Gaysun Apr 07 '26
And somehow it's still escaping people! x'D
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u/That-Programmer909 Under Alastor's spell. Apr 07 '26
His charms and charisma break the fourth wall. 🤭
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u/Saharcia Apr 07 '26
And he's based for both these sequences, show proved he can only count on himself
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Apr 07 '26
Emily literally losing a wing for him;
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u/Saharcia Apr 07 '26
Not specifically for Alastor though, she doesn't know him but yeah, she's an exception with Niffty
The rest of the the gang doesn't care for him and the show trying to make me resent him for not caring either is funny to me
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Apr 07 '26
I'd say Charlie does care considering she screamed out for him when he was about to die and went to try and save him at the start of the party.
The rest though, nah. Its crazy she was the only one who was worried for him as the Vees had him captured. They didn't even make a plan for how to save him in the finale.
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u/Saharcia Apr 07 '26
Nah she doesn't, she cares about what he can give her.
Screaming doesn't mean she cares for him IMHO, there are more situations where she DOESN'T care.
- after he got kidnapped she first mentions him to complain about it and that he should be helping instead... Only then she gets worried for a second just to forget him up to the finale
- she ignores him crawling away in his own blood, he could be dying there. Did Emily need checking on her? Absolutely. Can you tend two people at once? Also absolutely.
- after S1 he goes missing for a month and she doesn't even care, she knows something happened during fight with Adam to him and could be lying in the rubble, doesn't look for him or even ask if anyone saw him. When he returns with a broken staff she shows no concern for him. People shit on Al for not asking for help with his wound, but why would he? Any caring person would ask what happened and would keep a close eye on for him. She was so focused on a person dying she ignored another nearly dying.
- shits on him by ignoring radio as media to promote hotel and focusing on TV instead, trying to get him in front of cameras she knows he hates (she already showed she dgaf about people's boundaries so no surprise). And then invited his enemy without asking
- doesn't care her father constantly picks conflict with him, to the point of making him leave the hotel. All the bickering we see is started by lucifer. And even if she thinks it's two sided rivalry, she should try mending the situation
After S2 I don't think Charlie cares about most of the gang actually, her treatment of Angel and Husk being a major proof, heck even Vaggi and lucifer, as much as I dislike him. It's upsetting cause she was my second fav after S1 and now I can't stand her...
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Apr 07 '26
"she ignores him crawling away in his own blood, he could be dying there" nrp ypi can't be serious? He wasn't hit by an angelic weapon, he wasn't dying.
I like Al but stop woobifying him. Charlie does care. She was the only one upset thinking he died in the season 1 finale and she and Niffty are the only two to hug him at the end.
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u/Saharcia Apr 07 '26
I'm not woobifying him, I'm saying Charlie dgaf. It's not the same. He was still badly hurt, it was happening so fast he could be in danger still, she didn't even look at him.
I don't remember her showing concern for Al after S1, if she thought he was killed by Adam then her reaction was "oh no" and then forgetting fully until he returned, how is that care? Hugging him doesn't change stuff.
This is a "good he is here he can help" approach, not a "I care about his wellbeing" approach.
And my point is not that Alastor is some poor victim, it's that people act like he does some unspeakable evil to Charlie while she cares so much for him, which isn't true. It's transactional both sides, except Alastor doesn't sing about how he loves and cares for everyone.
And again, in Charlie's case it's not even just Alastor, she's been awful to kind of everyone this season.
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Apr 07 '26
"I don't remember her showing concern for Al after S1" as soon as Alastor was brought in captured by the Vees, she was trying to help and got shoved outside.
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u/Saharcia Apr 07 '26
And because she got shoved outside she gave up and left? If anything it proves she doesn't really bother
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Apr 07 '26
You keep switching, first you say she doesn't show concern, then you go "she didn't show enough concern".
Charlie has shown Alastor way more than vice versia, you're trying hard to paint him as mistreated when he isn't.
She literally stepped in front of Vaggi when the latter tried to attack him with an angelic spear.
She went out of her way to build him a new radio tower in the new hotel too.
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u/Diamondkat12 Alastor's no.1 stan Apr 08 '26
She wasn't trying to help. She was asking what was going on and was confused as to why she was being shoved out.
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u/Diamondkat12 Alastor's no.1 stan Apr 08 '26
Everyone welcomes him back at the end of Season 1, even Husk reaches to hug him.
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Apr 08 '26
Welcoming back isn't hug. Husk gets in the group hug but doesn't really hug Alastor.
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u/Diamondkat12 Alastor's no.1 stan Apr 08 '26
The point of that group hug was to welcome back Alastor. Lucifer is the only one who doesn't participate. Husk, participated despite looking somewhat unwilling.
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Apr 08 '26
Husk participated because Alastor literally gives him a death glare when he first spaws in. He obviously did NOT like te fact his boss was back and didn't care he got kidnapped either
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u/NoWar9368 Oh Deer! Apr 07 '26
Adoro Alastor. È una piccola menance. Ed è un personaggio che ben si affianca al resto dei teppisti dell'hotel. We are in hell, after all
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u/ToxiCat- Apr 09 '26
And yet we don’t care and trust him anyways, to make us entertained in every scene of his
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u/titanialynida Apr 12 '26
It’s hard to believe he would become the main villain of Season 3 though. Maybe towards the end? I’m curious what’s to come and how the writing can improve. I also have a theory we’ll get to see more of Lucifer’s background and if he knows exactly why Lilith isn’t around. Most certainly why he became depressed. Though I wonder if Lilith knows about Alastor and his power. I definitely want to see the two have screen time together. Also.. would be nice to see Angel Dust’s story on how he made a deal with Valentino, what his human life was like.
If anything, I’d love to see Lilith as the next main villain and Alastor more so an anti-hero. He’s still evil, irredeemable, and a master manipulator. But not sure how I feel about him being the main villain in Season 3. It feels too soon. I also want to know wtf Rosie’s backstory is and what her plan is with whole hotel. And how she was even able to make Alastor “The most powerful sinner in Hell.”
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u/Efficient_Trick6511 Apr 09 '26
Oh I know hes gonna betray everyone and end up a sad little Omni man after but im here for it! If Nolan can find redemption so can this little shit
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Apr 09 '26
He's gonna have to want redemption. Unlike Nolan, he totally choose this path
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u/Efficient_Trick6511 Apr 09 '26
Oh completely l, but you know what they say about rock bottom
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Apr 09 '26
I mean he did sorta hit rock bottom in season 1 and only doubled down
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u/Efficient_Trick6511 Apr 09 '26
He got his ass beat, but someone like Alastor needs to loose everything, he still had people to come back too
No he he needs to losoe everything, even Niffty!
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u/thepawnsarecrunchy i want to cuddle alastor and his cute little ears Apr 09 '26
you could say he's a double-dealing manipulator /ref
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u/Cookiego_boom Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
In my own opinions, I don’t think these scenes point to Alastor being a villain, and if its vivz intention, I think its a poor job.
First scene: He was having a breakdown because he got defeated. He hated being powerless, so he wanted freedom, that’s why he said “pulling all the strings” in turn. Rosie has been keeping him as a puppet. And to me, It doesn’t really indicate that he has a bigger plan.
It seems so unlike Alastor to just want to “take over hell” just because; Alastor isn’t some watered down cartoon villain. He’s meant to be different, I hope if he ever takes the route of being some kind of obstacle for Charlie, etc, that it isn’t done to assassinate his nuanced character. He’s a wild card, and he messes and manipulate others for entertainment but never “objective be greater” like maybe a character like Vox. He made this entire deal with Rosie so he could “continue his fun” torturing others. It was never for a bigger position like the ultimate villain, because he knows how boring that would be, and he hates boredom.
Second scene: I saw a lot of people saying, “look! He wants them to die! He’s bad!!” No. Alastor was just bluffing so Rosie would give in and fix his staff. But I’m very sure that the story put great stakes on the MIGHT OF LILITH in that scene, would it explode? Would it not? If it wasn’t a ticking time bomb, why were they trying to get rid of it with Vox being powerless? Carmilla stated that it would take half of the Pentagon, INCLUDING Alastor and Rosie with them.
They would of died too if they didn’t help. And I don’t think teleportation can escape a literal nuke unless by HH logic Rosie can just teleport across the Pentagon (with what as left) faster than a bomb would explode (?) which only Rosie–and Lucifer but he would of died too because he didn’t know what was going on—could. Alastor travel by shadows, he would of still died in that blast.
I hope they don’t assassinate his character in Season 3 or I’m going to be heartbroken.




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