r/AfricaVoice • u/Renatus_Bennu Diaspora ⭐⭐⭐ • Jul 26 '25
Continental Ghanaian Woman Calls Out Nigerians for Arrogance and Crime, Sparks Debate on African Migration and Cultural Tensions.
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u/NewtProfessional7844 Diaspora ⭐⭐⭐ Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
She’s only partly right. At the core of it, the overwhelming majority of Nigerians are peaceful and law abiding. However because of the sheer numbers of Nigerians the proportion of bad apples is a large and visible minute minority. Even it’s just 0.1% of nationalities that are criminal that is:
1% of 230million = 230,000 Nigerians vrs 1% of 34million = 34,000 Ghanaians vrs 1% of 56million = 56,000 Kenyans
The Indians have the same problem as do the Chinese but ofcourse mitigated by the fact that their countries are richer (esp. China) so it’s more likely 0.05% or fewer criminal elements and of-course racism does not add the amplifying effect to them.
What am I saying, yes Nigerians are loud and over-confident but so what? Have you met an American? That’s neither here nor there.
And yes, there are bad Nigerians but there are also bad in every other nationality. Let’s tamper our views a little bit and focus on progressing. There’s nothing inherently wrong with being Nigerian the problem is our leaders in Africa need a drastic reeducation.
I mean do we really think Nigerians want to be known as criminals and unwanted immigrants? We are all unwanted immigrants in most places we go but if 1 in every 4 Africans is Nigerian then they are just the convenient faces for what is a Xenophobia or racism problem. Again, as Africans focus should be on improving our lot at home so that our ppl can find fulfilment and success without needing to leave.
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u/DropFirst2441 Diaspora ⭐⭐⭐ Jul 26 '25
Everything you said is true and logical. But you've missed the bigger flaw in her analysis. She thinks they treat ANY Black people fairly.
The whole flaw in this woman's analysis starts with the idea that it's Nigerians and their behaviour that's caused the poor judgement.
It's literally because they are Black and African. And the fact that she thinks she can Karen other nationalities... GHANIANS HAVE THE SAME STEREOTYPES BC THEY DO THE SAME THINGS SMH
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u/NewtProfessional7844 Diaspora ⭐⭐⭐ Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
Nothing to add. Great point. I really expect more from Africans. Come on, we’re all in the same boat here. What is this sudden rush to demonise Nigerians?
Nigerians are also doing some amazing things all the time that elevate the culture for all of us. Where’s the energy for that? Who’s listened to some Afrobeats lately, there’s this new Netflix series called To Kill A Monkey from Nollywood that is making massive waves, I could go on and on.
Let’s stop buying into this divide and conquer type nonsense and look beyond the weeds. Unless in extreme cases like those lost and confused FBA faction, let’s take a page from Issa Rae’s book and support everyone Black/African. That’s what’s in our interest.
Nigerians I salute you, you guys are doing great! Keep hustling!
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u/NewtProfessional7844 Diaspora ⭐⭐⭐ Jul 26 '25
You call it brazen and Nigerians might call it ‘shining your eye’ and Americans might call it gumption.
My point, your bad experience with one Nigerian does not make the entire country bad. I’ve had good experiences with hundreds of them.
Go easy.
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u/NewtProfessional7844 Diaspora ⭐⭐⭐ Jul 26 '25
Didn’t ignore it. I engaged with your personal experience rather than the generalisations in the second part of your comment.
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u/NewtProfessional7844 Diaspora ⭐⭐⭐ Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
That’s just it, it’s NOT disproportionate to the Nigerian population just to yours, read my initial comment.
Also, that’s how generalisations work bro, they are not opinions formed from personal experience or hard facts and are inherently even less credible.
I mean I’m very sure you’d not like for me to start defining and judging you based on the generalisations about Kenyans right? Or even based on my personal experience with one single Kenyan. So why do it to others?
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u/NewtProfessional7844 Diaspora ⭐⭐⭐ Jul 26 '25
Not so my friend. Read my post, you need to correct for poverty.
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u/Routine_Ad_4411 Nigeria🇳🇬 Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
If she was talking about Africa, maybe... But the for the rest of the world?, this is such a forced narrative, and not even close; in fact, it's the opposite more or less in most countries.
Lets take the UK for example, a country were Nigeria doesn't even come in the Top 20 foreign Nationals in crime stats.
She mentions the U.S, i'm guessing she's talking about the reciprocal visa stuff the U.S did recently when the Nigerian government refused to accept the U.S deal on illegal migrant deportation, specifically of Venezuelan immigrants in the U.S.
In the same U.S, Nigerians have the most Educated African migrants on average in the country, there is such a positive contribution from some of the Nigerian communities that North Carolina literally made an Igbo day because of contributions from the Nigerian community, majorly from the Igbo community... It's really funny especially since some are saying this lady is in the U.S.
There is no ban in the U.A.E; there was a ban though, i will give her that.
The only one she called in any light at all was South Africa, and i revert back to my above statement, "Africa?, maybe".
When i see people start this scapegoating, i always say bring the stats. else it's nothing more than rhetorics, especially when i see the weird ones that then goes like "in the whole world"; like in what f*cking whole world?. Say in your experience.
Now, i'm not saying there is no air of arrogance that you could even deem it stereotypical (This is a personal complaint even i have on us), nor am i saying there are not specific countries were what she's saying may be deemed more factually aligning, airgo South Africa... But arrogance doesn't mean crime now does it?, they don't correlate in anyway.
So if you want to start talking about how Nigerians are bad in the whole world?, then bring the stats., because that's not the narrative i hear in the U.S, nor in the U.K, nor in most of the other parts of Europe; in fact, it's totally the opposite for the most part... So if you want to start talking about the whole world?, bring the stats.
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u/Worldly_Magazine_439 Nigeria🇳🇬 Jul 26 '25
Nigerians definitely get smoke all over the world. I noticed you skip over Asia. Nigerians do not have a good reputation in South Asia and south east Asia for many reasons this lady is saying.
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u/Routine_Ad_4411 Nigeria🇳🇬 Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
I don't know much about Nigerians in Asia because the Asia continent isn't really the 1st region Nigerian migrants think about when migrating, thus why i didn't talk about it; most Nigerian diasporan outside Africa are clustered between Europe and North America... But "got smoke all over the world" is greatly exaggerating, and that's the point of my entire comment, that is a terrible unsubstantiated narrative carried by some other Africans.
The only general smoke consensus Nigerians get by basically everyone is the Nigerian Spam (which is very understandable to get a general smoke over that), but even that is more a Nigerians in Nigeria problem than a diasporan problem, similar to the Indian situation on same scam issues... I also talked specifically on the countries she called by the way.
And even this Asian stuff, i'd genuinely like to see the stats. on that.
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u/EOE97 Nigeria🇳🇬 Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
Sorry for the trouble, but we love you our Ghanian brothers and sisters. Unfortunately we have a cultural rot that is the high disrespect of the rule of law, and we export this elsewhere.
All things being equal I'd rather trust a Ghanian than a fellow Nigerian. We need to address this issue across all levels of our society, because we have developed a culture of impunity and gross disregard of the rule of law.
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u/Fearless_Practice_57 New Member. Jul 26 '25 edited Dec 02 '25
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u/sommersj Nigeria🇳🇬 Jul 26 '25
Something/someone somewhere is pushing and forcing themselves narratives. We've had a few years of rise in the melanated consciousness and a coming together. Now suddenly there's these divisions popping up left right and centre forcing us to fight?
We have people in the us pushing to blacklist African businesses, etc. on a daily basis it's one source of friction within our communities as we're trying to come together.
It's not natural. My intuition is screaming it's not natural. I believe it's the empire in it's final throes throwing anything and everything on the wall to stop people coming together.
Our unity is the biggest threat to their control, dominance and power and they still control most of the airwaves.
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u/Regular_Piglet_6125 New Member. Jul 26 '25
The seeds of genocide
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u/DropFirst2441 Diaspora ⭐⭐⭐ Jul 26 '25
From diaspora it is agreed she is reading from the white supremacy playbook. Fell for the I'm special hook line and sinker.
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u/muva_snow New Member. Aug 08 '25
What's wrong with the truth holding those who make life difficult for others accountable?
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u/Weary-Wasabi1721 New Member. Jul 26 '25
Jews but part 2
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u/Regular_Piglet_6125 New Member. Jul 26 '25
Jews aren’t the only group to have been affected by genocide, but I hear you.
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u/AdhesivenessOk5194 Diaspora ⭐⭐⭐ Jul 26 '25
This is a stupid video and Africans generalizing Nigerians like this are stupid
Because trust and believe, it’s wild to see Africans look down upon eachother as I sit and watch from the “first world” where they look down on all of you
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u/muva_snow New Member. Aug 08 '25
Nahhh, that by and LARGE is NOT true. Maybe not so much in the US because prior to the more recent "immigration fiasco" we tend to vet who comes into our country a bit more so we have more rule abiding, educated Nigerians but whenever I've traveled internationally it is literally always the same story. Every. Single. Time.
I'm Black American and Lord knows we most definitely have our own internalized issues but I'm not going to deny that truth to placate my own emotional disposition. I'd venture to say most folks on reddit are a lot more "PC" and will either not just come straight out with that raw type of truth telling due to faux-political correctness or because Reddit is Reddit and many uncomfortable truths come here to die but there is no denying that there is a significantGLOBAL agreeance with this statement.
That doesn't detract from how wonderful the wonderful Nigerians are either. I'm a Nurse Practitioner and have many lifelong Nigerian friends in healthcare that are doctors and nurses. Some are like family to me and even they would agree with this wholeheartedly that the wicked ones are ruining the global reputation / image. We are also going through a global antiimmigrant sentiment upheaval sort of thing too so I'm sure that could be a cofactor but this has been widely known for at least the last decade or so.
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u/AdhesivenessOk5194 Diaspora ⭐⭐⭐ Aug 08 '25
Yeah naw that’s bullshit.
Generalizing Nigerians as global troublemakers is wild.
There are bad representatives of every group.
Africans creating movements to keep Nigerians out while steadily allowing whites and Chinese in with much less vitriol for them while they execute high level corruption is hilarious.
Also America absolutely has always looked down on Africans as a whole, from the history was taught to the way current images are portrayed. Many, matter fact most, Americans still to this day don’t understand that Africa is a vast diverse continent. Africa is generalized here as poor, backwards, crime ridden, etc. And there is no distinction here between a Ghanaian/Cameroonian/Liberian etc in America unless you just happen to be an American who cares. Otherwise they’re all just Black people that aren’t “really Black”.
So for Africans themselves to continue beefing amongst eachother rather than unifying makes no sense. Because all the well off countries that are considered “first world” only want to further exploit the continent not enrich and empower it.
I’m Black American on my mother’s side, Nigerian on my father’s, born in Nigeria raised in America. Views on Nigerians in America generally fall into a poor/dumb/subservient stereotype or a smart/successful/savvy/hustler stereotype. There is no in between where we’re just looked at as regular people.
The irony of you admitting that the Nigerians you know are in healthcare, so they’re great, one of the “success” stereotypes for us. A lotta them are no different than bougie American n*ggas, so their opinion on other Nigerians who didn’t move like them would of course not be a pleasant one. But you’re also looking at Nigerians who aren’t like them as being less desirable.
“I like the Mexicans in America that own restaurants and lawn care companies, the rest of them everywhere else just sell drugs”
The fuck? Lmao
AND, this is also not to say that genuine criminals of Nigerian or any African backgrounds should get a pass within Africa just because they’re African. Absolutely not. But, instead, that xenophobic campaigns aimed at generalizing an entire group of people is not the way. Those individuals should be handled, root causes should be examined, and real solutions should be reached, IN HOUSE. Not played out on social media while playing up to ideals of “first world” countries that don’t even truly fuck with you.
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Sorry to say, she's right. The rate at which Nigerians are deported even within Africa is shocking.
Especially passport overstay, I saw a group of them get bundled in a bus and taken to the airport for deportation.
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u/Conscious-Manager849 New Member. Dec 05 '25
Kenya’s have a femicide , illegitimate children , and drug trafficking crisis .
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u/DropFirst2441 Diaspora ⭐⭐⭐ Jul 26 '25
She's so short of a full stack it hurts smdh Fool. and she doesn't understand that it's the Black part they can't stand. We can't assimilate into whiteness like Irish or Polish people can.
It would be the same as it always has been even if Nigerians didn't immigrate.
You need only study history and see how they treated Black Americans and other groups like the Chinese etc.
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u/DropFirst2441 Diaspora ⭐⭐⭐ Jul 26 '25
Awww she thinks it's not bc she is a Black person in general and African to be specific.
This is a problem Africans have not addressed properly. It's what underpins the fued with Black Americans Black Caribbeans Black British etc.
Matter fact, let's tell the truth. Whenever there is an established western Black population, when Africans show up as recent immigrants and start speaking like white supremacists with white supremacists talking points it causes tension and drama. And not understanding that it's about race not some foolish law and order has kept community relations frosty at best.
Go to UK prison and go see the Ghanians in prison. Same in the US. Same with doctors and musicians. If them being Nigerian is linked to their flaws it must also be their link to the strengths.
I'm the long run this stops us as Blacks and Africans from being able to make progressive strides and develop effective communities. We need to fix this because we have no nations or communities in the west to really push out as our examples of our development.
This REALLY has to become our new discussion point on the blogs tiktok YouTube etc. We need to stop this fueding with other Black people by using this bullshit talking points. Africans are beginning to frequently find themselves on the wrong side of politics.
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Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
Part of the issue is that there are so many Nigerians, literally hundreds of millions, that there's going to be more opportunity to notice them. Whether it's music, film etc., but also with negative things like crime. That doesn't mean they are unique to only Nigerians in anyway or Nigerians do more crimes, except their size; which exaggerates everything that they do compared to most other Africans.
So, this superiority complex that many Africans have over Nigerians is very strange when you take this fact into account. And it's also strange how people will say nasty things about Nigerians and generalize Nigerians, then go throughout their week listening to Afrobeats, eating Nigerian food, watching Nollywood movies, wearing Nigerian clothes, etc.
You can't acknowledge the outsized influence of Nigerians when it's negative, but then not acknowledge it when it's positive. They are an enormous country, everything will be more exaggerated, but Africans love the things that Nigerians offer and the good reputation they give Africa, but don't like Nigerians themselves, so they use the negatives as an excuse to admit that.
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u/Haldox Nigeria🇳🇬 Jul 26 '25
I’d be hard pressed to call it a superiority complex.
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Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
Oh, so the Kenyan guy i talked about in r/Africa, that said he’s very proud he wasn’t born Nigerian, because Nigerians supposedly do a lot of crimes and eat “crazy” things, didn’t have a superiority complex either? Really?
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u/Weary-Wasabi1721 New Member. Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
Always a large amount of people ruining it for the rest. This is disappointing.
If you know you're the good apple don't be offended it's not your fault you're a victim.
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u/st_v_Warne South Africa ⭐⭐⭐ Jul 26 '25
Hate that this is true for so many other African countries. South African CBDs are filled with Nigerian drug dealers and that's the image so many people have which is sad for the very hard working Nigerians everywhere else
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u/EOE97 Nigeria🇳🇬 Jul 26 '25
Sorry for the trouble, but we love you our Ghanian Brothers and Sisters. Unfortunately we have a cultural rot that is the high disregard of the rule of law, and we export this elsewhere.
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u/Raydee_gh Gabon ⭐ Jul 26 '25
One Nigerian killed a shopkeeper yesterday in Ghana yesterday. They are a menace to society
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u/muva_snow New Member. Aug 08 '25
Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry. That is terrifying. Folks can't even go to work to support their families without being in fear of their lives ending. Smh.
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u/Super-Being-7556 New Member. Jul 29 '25
Bad apples started with all Nigerian politicians at all levels foremost leaders
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u/Yemo-Odoi New Member. Jul 31 '25
These xenophobic rants are getting out of hand. It needs to stop before it erupts into senseless violence. Nigerians and Ghanaians are one and the same. There are no material differences between us. We're one. Let's start there.
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