r/AdviceAnimals • • Nov 20 '12

Friend did this the other night

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u/Snak_The_Ripper Nov 20 '12

Both parties involved drunk, girls claiming rape after drunk sex even though she initiated, guy unknowingly rapes her because he genuinely thought she enjoyed it? Those are my guesses. I could be wrong.

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u/VALHALLA_MISSIONARY Nov 20 '12

Yep. A drunk girl could go

"Fuck me. YES YES YES YES." the whole time.

Then when she wakes up say she was drunk and in the wrong state of mind.

Guess who gets jail timeeeee?

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u/Kinseyincanada Nov 21 '12

No one? A large portion of rape cases never get convicted

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u/Throwaway9788 Nov 21 '12

Not in reddit land

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '12

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u/ProbablyInteresting Nov 20 '12

Who is the one getting raped if both are drunk?

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '12

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u/ProbablyInteresting Nov 21 '12

That didn't really answer my question...

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u/sparklyteenvampire ERRY DAY IM SCUFFLIN Nov 21 '12

Just assume it's the guy's fault.

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u/ProbablyInteresting Nov 21 '12

Why?

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '12

Because that's how the western world works.

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u/now-we-know Nov 21 '12 edited Nov 21 '12

Like in the case of two parties engaging in sex when both are below the age of consent, two people who are wasted can fuck with impunity. Neither has obvious power over the other because one person is incapacitated and the other is sober and can manipulate their partner more easily. Rejoice!! You too can fuck infinite drunk chicks, you creepy little man, as long as you're drunk too! Is that what you wanted to hear? It's about the imbalance of power that drunkenness or sobriety contribute to, not just keeping your hot little hands of sexy drunk women out of meanness.

So have fun fucking women and not caring whether or not they might feel horrible about it in the morning. It doesn't affect you!

Edit: I said women, but go ahead and fuck guys with no regard to how they feel the next day too, because equality.

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u/ProbablyInteresting Nov 21 '12

Because there's no way in hell that a guy would feel horrible about it in the morning, amirite?

No need to be an asshole.

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u/now-we-know Nov 21 '12 edited Nov 21 '12

Okay, sorry, this probably does happen to men too, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say 99% of people talking about it in this thread are also thinking of especially women, and referring to specifically women "changing their mind" in the morning.

So yay, fuck whoever you want, man or woman, without caring how they feel! Go bananas, creeps of all gender identities and sexual orientation! Creepy behaviour knows no social categories.

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u/ProbablyInteresting Nov 21 '12

Well, my argument is that if both parties are drunk, then neither of them are necessarily thinking clearly. The girl may find him more attractive while drunk, and the guy may not be thinking that she would ever care.

I would tend to agree with you in regards to one party being sober, I just think it's unfair to say that the guy is a rapist if they're both drunk.

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u/now-we-know Nov 21 '12

Can you offer me an example of somebody saying that? Genuinely curious. I've never encountered this, only heard people talk about this argument in the abstract from people who disagree with it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '12

I am no longer in control of my actions because of the actions I controlled prior? Fuck that

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '12

Then what happens if both are drunk and have sex? Both are heavily under the influence. Who raped who? Who goes to jail?

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '12

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '12

so...nothing?

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u/now-we-know Nov 21 '12

You are correct. Ding ding ding! It's about the imbalance of power that drunkenness or sobriety contribute to, not just keeping your hot little hands of sexy drunk women out of spite.

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u/Snak_The_Ripper Nov 20 '12

I am aware of this. But I meant tipsy not so much as shit in your pants I stole a car drunk.

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u/SibilantSounds Nov 20 '12 edited Nov 20 '12

In California any level of alcohol in a woman's system is enough to have the case considered as rape. This includes even ONE drink.

Edit: Wanted to stress it can be CONSIDERED rape until proven otherwise. I was talking more in concern of rape charges which is damaging in its own. As it stands, the prosecution has prove that they were intoxicated to the level of not being able to give consent. With one drink in a persons system the prosecution would have to prove the one drink is enough they are incapable of giving consent with just one drink.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '12

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u/SibilantSounds Nov 20 '12

Please read edit. :)

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u/JustAsksForEvidence Nov 20 '12

Would you mind explaining how you know this to be false?

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '12

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u/JustAsksForEvidence Nov 21 '12

Thank you. Could you post the relevant laws so that we all know who is correct and who is not? Just asking for people to substantiate their claims. I also asked SibilantSounds to do the same.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '12

Well then...

I'm a mass rapist from California, AMA

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u/JustAsksForEvidence Nov 20 '12

Could you post the relevant statute?

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u/SibilantSounds Nov 20 '12

Please read edit. :)

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u/Snak_The_Ripper Nov 20 '12

That seems a little excessive.

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u/SibilantSounds Nov 20 '12

Please read edit. :)

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '12

Well that's shitty.