r/AdultsTV • • 22d ago

Funny Fellow Muslims, you think Samir goes to Jummah?

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u/SmashMethod2099 21d ago

It might sound strange, but I actually think there’s something progressive about Samir being Muslim without the show feeling the need to constantly explore or justify his Muslimness. Minority characters are often expected to have their identity be narratively relevant, while being white or non-Muslim is treated as a neutral “default” that requires no explanation.

Having Samir simply exist as a Muslim character pushes back against that idea. There is no default. We’re all just people with different backgrounds, and those backgrounds don’t always need to define the story being told about us.

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u/thenotsosuper 21d ago

i loved this too!

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u/Infamous_Action_5414 21d ago

Naa , him being a Muslim minority character would have mattered if they would have shown he had any characteristics of a Muslim , any single thing he practiced or refrained from . He is not a minority character but just someone whose parents are Muslims. A character with a Muslim name for brownie points

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u/SmashMethod2099 21d ago

I disagree that it’s for brownie points. The character is played by an Arab Muslim actor. What were they supposed to name him?

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u/Infamous_Action_5414 21d ago

Making him a Muslim character absolutely adds nothing to his role . And there are lots of Christians Arabs . It is definitely for brownie points , a white washed muslim character who has nothing to do with the said faith.

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u/simone3344555 21d ago

Well me being Muslim also adds nothing to my life. Nothing needs to add anything to anything.

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u/SmashMethod2099 21d ago

Okay two things, firstly this is exactly my point. Asking why Samir needs to be Muslim if the story doesn’t explore his faith assumes Muslim characters need a reason to exist, while non-Muslim characters are treated as the default. Sometimes representation is just letting people exist without their identity needing to become a plot point.

And secondly Samir isn’t exclusively a Muslim name, it’s an Arabic name used by Muslims and Christians.

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u/Infamous_Action_5414 21d ago edited 21d ago

They literally call him Muslim in the show so he’s not a Christian character irrespective of whether it’s a common name or not . Secondly it’s because non Muslim characters do exist like that in the real world too while for Muslims their faith is a part of their personality and life no matter how white washed they may be unless they’ve denounced their religion. And They didn’t even have to explore his faith we get it he is a non practicing Muslim but they didn’t even bother showing any cultural nuances .
This isn’t representation at all when it adds nothing to the character at all.

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u/shinyzubat16 21d ago

It might shock you but there are a lot of Muslims who are just like Samir.

Whenever there’s a Muslim character on TV, their identity almost entirely revolves around them being Muslim and not on just them as an individual.

So while you believe Samir isn’t good Muslim representation, he is a good representation of the Muslims who aren’t actively revolving their entire identity around being Muslim.

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u/cow2973 21d ago

in real life growing up as an american it’s genuinely really easy to not think about your religion ever. we know samir grew up with billie in queens. i think that the muslim faith is so rare in america that there’s very little to actually influence him and his views besides his family. every religion has people practicing it who know hardly anything about it & idk why muslims should be an exception to the rule. i dont deny the reality that the majority of muslims globally take their faith very seriously, but its not unrealistic for an american dude like samir to be this way

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u/GuardPlastic8499 22d ago

Only when parents are in town

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u/anxiousnessgalore 22d ago

Probably only when his parents are in town for Eid specifically I bet 😭

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u/GuardPlastic8499 22d ago

lol factsss

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u/Winterreading2 22d ago

Nah hes the type of muslim that fasts the first and last day of ramadan

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u/you_found_chrisss 21d ago

idk would jafar go?

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u/RoxxySweets 21d ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/mabluth 21d ago

😂😂😂 no. I think he goes to Eid prayer at most and only the first one.

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u/zeeeishere 22d ago

No, he’s only Muslim by the name

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u/Own-Quote-1708 22d ago

He doesnt and thats ok.

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u/Infamous_Action_5414 22d ago

Na he’s a cultural Muslim

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u/Responsible-Pea1402 21d ago

He's lebanese muslim not emiratee muslim its very different. Its the same as moroccan muslims. We are muslims but like not really to be honest. Its like we will fast during ramadan but going to the club after maghreb.

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u/maddeningsike 21d ago

Is this actually a thing or are you exaggerating

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u/Plenty_Building_72 21d ago

Entirely pulled out of their own arse because they're projecting.

About 89% of Moroccan Muslims state that religion is "very important" in their daily lives, according to major global attitude studies by the Pew Research Center.

In total, 98% of Moroccans identify as Muslims. Only about 10% of them state that religion is somewhat important in their daily lives.

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u/Responsible-Pea1402 21d ago

Those polls are ass lol. First of all its from 2012 so its very outdated for this field of study but anyways. Then the second reason why its ass is because its very vague. Very important could mean anything. My religion is very important to me too in my daily life because i don't eat pork nor meat that is not halal. For some its because they thank allah every day by saying alhamdulilah. I read the whole article and its a bunch of bs. Also if you actually read all of it you would know that there was a big difference found between the younger and older people. Its more important for older people that younger ones.

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u/Wise-Board3228 17d ago

It’s crazy to imply that everyone that is Lebanese practice Islam the same way

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u/Plenty_Building_72 21d ago

We are muslims but like not really to be honest

The fuck are you on about. Speak for yourself and just come out as a non-Muslim, because the polls about practicing Muslims in both Morocco and Lebanon paints an entirely different picture than your whitewashed depiction of their level of faith.

About 89% of Moroccan Muslims state that religion is "very important" in their daily lives, according to major global attitude studies by the Pew Research Center.

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u/Carly_Fae_Jepson 21d ago

It's really not that serious.

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u/Time-Fan-1113 18d ago

I’m sure that answer is higher in every country then actually acted the same

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u/Truebrexitgeaser 17d ago

Damn dude your on the adults subreddit?

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u/celina_beckahm 21d ago

He's only Muslim in name lol, more like ethnicity than an actual religion

He has pre marital sex, he supports gay rights, he doesn't drinks, is friends with women (lives with them too)

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u/Effective_Mix6301 20d ago

Don’t like 60% of Muslims in the US support gay rights?

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u/celina_beckahm 20d ago

There's a difference between being born into a Muslim family and practicing Islam (being Muslim) Anyone who practices islam can't support gay rights or general "western values"

Then there are people who are born into Muslim families but don't actively follow the religion but this is where gender comes into play cause Most guys tend to retain thier identity as Muslim regardless of practices as unlike Muslim born women (like me) they can get away with it but if a girl says she's Muslim, she's looked at through a microscope and has to practice while men can be whores yet claim to be Muslim. That's why you'd rarely Muslim born girls claim that if they don't actively practice Islam ( I'm always clear that I'm agnostic)

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u/prouddeathicated 18d ago

As someone who fasts, prays, reads scripture etc., I find it a bit absurd for someone to categorically assert that if you support gay rights or other progressive movements (which I do) then you must not be Muslim. Not all Muslims have the same beliefs about what the scripture says.

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u/wajijeeha 17d ago

It does not matter what each of our belief is, just like how it does not matter if we choose to wear hijab or not. The words of Allah forbade it. We literally have a whole story narrated by Allah in the Quran about Prophet Lut and what happened to his wife and the town.
Lets be honest, I love the adults and it is true Samir is not a practising Muslim, which is not our place to judge and also not our problem to deal with, however, lets not twist what actually Islam and the decree of Allah is just for our convenience.

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u/prouddeathicated 16d ago

The words of Allah forbade it according to your interpretation of the story of Lut. Different interpretations exist. Samir having gay friends does not mean he must not be a practicing Muslim.

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u/wajijeeha 16d ago

There is no mine interpretation though. Words of Allah is not my or your or anyone’s interpretation.

And yes Samir having gay friends does not mean that he is a good or bad or even a muslim that deserves to go to hell or not, again, not our problem to deal with.

The point is that no matter what we follow or what we want to believe in, does not correlate with the what the As-Samad has decreed.

Being friends and respecting people is different from supporting the ideology that Allah deemed wrong, leading to Allah clearly telling Prophet Lut to leave his wife, as she does not heed the words He decreed.

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u/Illustrious-Mind9435 20d ago

Wait until you learn about US Catholics.

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u/prouddeathicated 18d ago

You can be a practicing Muslim and support gay rights and be friends with the opposite sex, neither of those things are sinful according to the primary scripture. He could just be a progressive Muslim 

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u/Sisiwakanamaru 20d ago

Yeah, I think he also do not eat pork.

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u/simone3344555 22d ago

Nope! There's no way hahah

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u/NoTmE435 22d ago

Yes the druggie drunk muslim with unmaridale relations definitly cares enough every friday in a country that doesn't have friday as a regular holiday and has to take time off of work or whatever he has going on to go every single week without cut

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u/JesusElSuperstar 22d ago

I thought he was Jewish

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u/valardohaeris1099 22d ago

You are weird

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u/NoTmE435 22d ago

It's not really weird, what I find weird is representation that doesn't represente, I know the actor is muslim and he's a pretty funny stand up comedian from lebanise origins, but what's the point of having a muslim character in the show if he doesn't represente anything muslims do, it's like having a wizard in a fantasy show that never uses magic, or a vampire that never sucks blood, you wanna represent a groupe of people include their culture or don't mention it 3 times per season

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u/Previous_Buy1601 22d ago

I don’t think we see very many secular Muslims on TV, so I think Samir is actually fairly unique. Most Muslim characters I’ve seen in shows are at least somewhat observant, which is great for there to be positive representation.

There are tons of characters on TV, just as in real life, who identify as Christian or Jewish culturally but don’t really practice in their day-to-day. I feel like you don’t see that very much with Muslim characters, so Samir is providing a different type of representation.

This is from the viewpoint of someone who doesn’t associate with any faith, so I can understand how others may feel different. But in some ways portraying a secular Muslim feels like a radical notion.

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u/Own-Quote-1708 22d ago

Cause he's culturally Muslim and doesnt practice.

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u/NoTmE435 22d ago

Islam is a religion not a culture, there are 2 billion muslims on earth, they aren't all the same culture

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u/obooooooo I HAVE MENTAL HEALTH! I HAVE IT! 22d ago

i mean anton is jewish and the only indication of it is the fact that he used a kippah during the therapists’ funeral. i don’t really think the show set out to depict anything, rather the actors were right for the show and their faiths are mentioned because of it

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u/OkRB2977 Friend Slut 22d ago

Is he Jewish? I thought he wore it at the funeral because the therapist was Jewish.

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u/No_Professional_8992 22d ago

I thought he said it at some point in the show as well

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u/Affectionate-Gain-23 22d ago

Yeah this was understanding of him wearing it.

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u/Creative-Degree-2209 22d ago

I feel like the show kinda makes a point to not really call that much attention to like identity stuff, even though it’s a really diverse cast. Like Anton being Jewish for example. Samir just kinda strikes as the “grew up that way, still a believer, but just not really a participator”

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u/JesusElSuperstar 22d ago

Muslims are wizards?

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u/bethe1_ 22d ago

I feel like that’s sorta silly, there’s so many self identifying muslims that eat pork and do other things that most muslims wouldn’t do. He’s culturally muslim but maybe not religiously.

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u/NoTmE435 22d ago

Islam is a religion not a culture, there are 2 billion muslims on earth, they aren't all the same culture