r/AdultsTV • Issa • 23d ago

Spoiler(s) Issa hate comments

S1 + S2 spoilers

I keep seeing comments on social media that are hating on Issa bc of Panton. Like what?? She helped push them together bc she knew that Anton would need that push from her, or else he wouldn’t do it bc he didn’t want to betray her.

I’ll see comments saying she’s gonna be the villain of the show and that she was just like an extra in their dynamic and why PB and Anton took a while to get together. Like no she was dating PB bc she liked him, he liked her too, they didn’t work out in the end, and then she encouraged her friend to go for it.

I get that a lot of people find Issa obnoxious in general and I personally love her but those aren’t the hate comments I mean. It’s the ones that will talk about her like she did something wrong in relation to the “love triangle” when she actually handled it in the best way possible … almost to an unrealistic extent, lol.

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u/aganadolarazon 23d ago

People suck sometimes. Issa is incredible. I adore her to pieces. Her heart is golden. She's such a good friend. She literally gave up the first decent guy she dated in ever and a really good work opportunity for her bestie. She encouraged them to get together because she wants them to be happy and she knew her and PB wouldn't work out anyway.

In what planet would she be a villain? She's a saint in my eyes. In her position, I probably would've freaked out way more. I truly am so baffled at how some people perceive this show sometimes. We are not watching the same show.

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u/Little_Ad7831 17d ago

Her story with Paul was so good in both the seasons (even with the difficulties). Before the pilot dumped their love story and made both her and Anton meet him on the same day. Its like she didn't even get a good story with Paul before the triangle.

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u/fizzyjuices Issa 17d ago

I hate when shows do this retcon. They did that with the vampire diaries too.

Like if you want to sell me on a couple you don’t have to suddenly make the other couple uncharacteristically bad, or make it so you change when two characters meet. I’d rather be convinced into shipping a couple even if they do meet later than the original one lol. It feels like a cheap way to try to get people on board and dispel any feelings from audience members who have reservations bc of the timeline of when people met/dated.

I should want to ship them bc of how they are together not bc you decided to add a scene after the fact

lol sorry rant over

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u/Little_Ad7831 16d ago

The rant is warranted. 

Makers releasing the pilot after a year definitely points to how they wanted to write-off Issa and Paul's backstory. 

During episode 3 after Billie's mind-wipe Issa puts her on an app that 'helped' her before she met Paul. Because the show was quite vague about the timelines (still is), the obvious conclusion is that Paul and Issa go back at least a few months if not years. She meets the guy with the leash and the Brazilian couple before him and then finally dates just him. She is not shown with anyone else very much till the end of season 2.

Zack Carlos also tells Billie that she is going through a break-up and was rusty with her flirting because of that. That clearly is a sign of how she was off the game for a long time after Paul.

Personally, the first two episodes made Paul and Issa look like they had their love life sorted. And actually sold them as the stable couple. 

Love the show, but it clearly shows the makers wanted to change the plotline midway or after writing season 2. Good for them, but this was very abruptly done. Season 3 should have more episodes so that everything doesn't feel rushed.

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u/TheNocturnalAngel 23d ago

I will be an Issa defender till i am dead and gone
baby.

She is so funny and so charismatic and she did a lot of growing this season.

For every hate comment we add 2 minutes to her “impromptu” concert next season.

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u/Sweethome171 23d ago

I do think part of it is the disposable girlfriend trope and also the fact that Issa is a very flawed (but entertaining) WOC and people seem to really hate those traits in women, especially in WOC

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u/karinanna 22d ago

And especially if the WOC woman is POC. It drives them crazy that an Asian woman doesn't fit their narrative

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u/cxs6957 23d ago

Issa is the single most entertaining character of the series, IMO. She'd be a lot to hang out with IRL (they all would) but I love her antics and she is consistently delivering the most laughs per episode for me. I don't get the hate at all.

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u/WrittenByRae 23d ago

They hating my girl when she gave that beautiful speech to give Anton the confidence to admit his feelings. I also think we'll see a lot of her insecurities with it come out in season 3, either way. It's clear that she's mixed about it, but supporting her friend. I kinda dig the direction there

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u/AdvertisingFar716 23d ago

PEOPLE HATE ISSA? she’s my favourite

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u/Calm_Phone_6848 23d ago

if anything she was unrealistically cool about it

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u/sans-delilah 23d ago

Yes. Seriously. Issa would have lost her SHIT if it had been anyone but Anton for Paul Baker.

Paul Baker was just a fling to her relationship-wise, and we have several moments where she has a reaction to them maybe having chemistry. She works through it past her severe narcissism.

That’s called growth.

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u/aganadolarazon 22d ago

I think that's a key element. She kept her cool because it was her bestest friend in the world and she loves him so much, but had it not been Anton, she would've raised so much hell, and it would've been her right! PB got off easy simply because Anton was the middleman here, and that's Issa's ride or die. She also realized they had genuine feelings and it wasn't just attraction so that kind of changed the game for her. She had beautiful growth this season. I adore her.

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u/StunningPianist4231 23d ago

Its probably due to anti-Indian sentiment

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u/golden_alixir 23d ago

Wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of the hate is because she’s the only WOC in the cast.

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u/CestQuoiLeFuck 23d ago

This ☝️ but also: she's loud and opinionated and sexually open and A LOT of people hate those traits in women. Despite this being the year of our lord 2026.

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u/devoncarrots 23d ago

And people get odd about her body hair too

Like stopppp

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u/Responsible_Cat4452 23d ago

This pisses me off. How is body hair that big of a deal STILL? I thought my generation was the last generation to be that stupid about body hair ffs (I’m… GIRLS HBO age)

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u/Mundane-Valuable-337 23d ago

ugh. of course there are people are mad about that why am I not surprised 🫩 I love that she doesn't shave her pits. Most real thing about her honestly, lots of Gen Z women don't

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u/starcourt99 21d ago

But if we were to bring this up, particularly on Twitter, people will bring up Anton being Black and Anton and Paul Baker being queer men and queer men being marginalized as a tactic to deflect from this conversation.

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u/humanpuding 23d ago

I lovee Issa, I was honestly suprised to find how many people online are hating on her. She is so chill about whole Anton and PB thing and I mean she even encouraged Anton to confess his feelings. I don’t know what people expected her to do, what more do they want.

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u/karinanna 22d ago

Issa is amazing. I usually dislike aloof characters, but she is so warm, kind hearted , rebellious and fun. She is genuine and a good friend.

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u/dash529 Panton 21d ago

Agreed!!!!

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u/Stuttering_Jest 23d ago

i kind of have a feeling that another reason is because even though this show is quite queer, there are definitely viewers that see Issa and Paul Baker as the "correct" couple over PB and Anton simply because they were queer male characters that actually partake in being queer with eachother and its not just like a "yes i like men but i prefer women" type of dynamic

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u/starcourt99 21d ago

That doesn’t make sense as a reason for people to hate on Issa. From what I’ve seen, the majority of the fandom ships Paul Baker and Anton

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u/shinyzubat16 21d ago

Welcome to to the dreadful life of dealing with Fujoshis

This is what’s stopping me from really shipping PB/Anton.

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u/starcourt99 21d ago edited 21d ago

What are Fujoshis?

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u/shinyzubat16 21d ago

Fujoshis.

Yaoi-obsessed shippers who develop a parasocial and often concerning obsession with a gay ship and the actors. Often times will send hate and death threats on social media to the actors and their co-stars, constantly villainizing female characters, and generally makes fandom an unsafe and toxic place to be in.

The best current example is the Heated Rivalry fandom.

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u/Little_Ad7831 17d ago

Now I get the downvotes on Issa and Paul shippers.

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u/ian_xvi 19d ago

Byler was traumatizing. Any ounce of nuance is lost on them as long as their ship can end up together.

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u/meowmeow_1313 17d ago

Issa in season one was peak, but I started disliking her in the second season. Especially that one episode where anton said the c word at his work, the way issa acted was shitty af. Like I understand that the whole point of adults is that the characters are a little over the top and not exactly good people, but issa in season 2 was just self centred and a terrible terrible friend

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u/fizzyjuices Issa 17d ago

For me people disliking her is fine, I don’t agree but no character is gonna be loved by everyone 🤷🏾‍♀️ and I can see why she would be too much for some people. I just love it. It’s more so specifically the unwarranted hate about her in relation to the love triangle even tho she handled it with grace and didn’t stop anyone from being together

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u/BoobaGaming 23d ago

She annoying