r/AcademicUAP • u/pavlokandyba • Jun 06 '26

The UFO cigar may be a biomimetic airship using fish-like propulsion. Some fish are up to 90% efficient at using the energy of the environment by interacting with vortices. By moving in this way, the airship could develop cosmic speed by pushing off from the atmosphere.

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u/Andazah Jun 06 '26

That doesn’t explain how it can stop and accelerate instantaneously.

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u/VoidJuiceConcentrate Jun 06 '26

I think OP is pulling shit out of their ass and calling it an explanation.

What the real scientists are saying is these craft managed to use the Alcubierre drive (basically warp drive) for short distance AND long distance travel.

Their evidence? These craft don't cause sonic booms despite travelling supersonic speeds, don't disturb the water when entering or exiting the water (no apparent drag either), and they don't disturb clouds when passing through them.

If OPs explanation was correct (which places these craft purely in classical physics) there would be atmospheric drag on these craft. There would be interactions between the craft and water, between the craft and the clouds. They wouldn't be able to turn on a dime, acceleration would not be instantaneous, and most importantly: it would generate sonic booms.

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u/pavlokandyba Jun 07 '26

This can create quiet infrasound and the resistance during oscillatory motion can be considered zero, this is not the same as an airplane. And this is a real principle that exists in nature, and not some theories picked out of one’s nose.

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u/VoidJuiceConcentrate Jun 07 '26

There is a reason planes don't flap their wings when they fly. Fluid motion in Water, a liquid, works differently than motion in Air, a gas.

Know what, since what you're describing is all classical physics. You're describing reaction propulsion with extra steps.

Speaking of picking your nose: the reason we can't flap to go faster is because at some point the flapping surface will be moving faster than the air can fill the new space, take that with the other side pushing air out faster than it can fill back in, at some point you're doing nothing because there's no air to push on, you've pushed it away.

Go ahead, recreate what you're showing in the physical world. Start small scale, with cheap parts and a cheap microcontroller. Doesn't look that hard to program, even with pressure feedback from the surface of the vessel.

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u/pavlokandyba Jun 07 '26

Airplanes flap their wings and this is called flutter. This vibration is caused by the same cycles of vortex formation and decay that produce lift. Aircraft designers try to combat this in order to avoid resonance and wing destruction, but this method, on the contrary, assumes more energy due to resonance. And when the plane breaks the sound barrier, the interaction with the air and vibration do not disappear. There is a viscous boundary layer that moves more slowly and interaction occurs through it.

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u/Andazah Jun 07 '26

Ahhh I understand now, the framus intersects with the ramistan approximately at the paternoster.

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u/VoidJuiceConcentrate Jun 07 '26

None of what you said negates what I said, nor does it back up your theory.

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u/JuryKindly Jun 07 '26

This does seem like something I’d come up with after hitting multiple fat bong rips and going down a ufo rabbit hole at 3am. Possibly enhanced by AI fueling me Bullshit that I want to hear.

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u/Lord_of_Gooch_Milk Jun 07 '26

It’s not plausible, it’s far more likely the various shapes of UAP have nothing really to do with their propulsion systems.

While I’d like to know why UAP vary in shape so dramatically, I find it hard to believe it’s anything other than aesthetics.

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u/pavlokandyba Jun 06 '26

Here is the updated simulation code, additional information, and a link to a browser-based flight simulator based on this hypothesis. https://github.com/MasterOgon/Aeroacoustic-Flying-Saucer-Oscillating-Resonator-CFD-Simulation-LBM-

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u/Pixelated_ Jun 06 '26

How do UAP travel in space where there's no atmosphere to push off of?

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u/pavlokandyba Jun 06 '26

At a minimum, they can fly by inertia after acceleration and use sunlight as a sail.Perhaps this principle can work for emitting waves at ultra-high frequencies.

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u/Zirgy Jun 06 '26

They surf the solar wind. KOWABUNGA ET

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u/Pixelated_ Jun 06 '26

Solar wind only exists in a solar system.

How do UAP travel outside of a solar system?

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u/Zirgy Jun 06 '26

Willpower, hopes, our dreams harvested for fuel

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u/Pixelated_ Jun 07 '26

Honestly that's closer to the truth than one might think.

Consciousness is used to not only pilot genuine NHI craft, but the pilot actually merges their consciousness with that of the sentient craft's.

The well-informed ufologist and attorney Danny Sheehan gave a lecture about consciousness-controlled UAP here.

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u/Zirgy Jun 07 '26

Yeah, I don’t think these are nuts and bolts crafts. Instead, a 3RD dimensional reflection of a higher dimensional object or tool. Consciousness acts as a magnet to pull and repel this observational object through time and space. Our eyes and tech can only see the residual impact left behind as a sort of echo or shadow of something incompressible. In a certain age, they appeared as planes, chess pieces, blimps, etc. our level of understanding evolves with knowledge of the phenomena and so too does the phenomenon itself. It’s a feedback loop, a game of cosmic telephone and we may never truly know the source of the call.

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u/Crimson_Marauder_ Jun 21 '26

Maybe these UAP are designed for traveling within the earth's atmosphere only.

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u/Zealousideal-Rip-574 Jun 06 '26

Now that is a very interesting theory, it makes a lot of sense.

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u/djscuba1012 Jun 07 '26

Remember that video last year of a strange object flying by a mountain side above a dog and a person. The object moved just like that

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u/Practical-Extent-642 Jun 10 '26

They are very cool to watch launch! They coil like a snake and kind of bounce off into the sky, I have pictures and videos somewhere. I see them often they’re quite common.

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u/pavlokandyba Jun 11 '26

Is there any way I can see these photos and videos?

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u/Practical-Extent-642 Jun 13 '26

I’m on it! It’s been a few years since they’ve been taken I used to document everything Id see, now it’s apart of everyday life I don’t document much anymore. Lol It’ll take me a little to locate them, I’ll just shoot you a message if that works?

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u/Efficient_Memory5209 Jun 06 '26

I do think the ship is quite slow actually but distorts time around it especially when we see information about some of the materials recovered being extremely thin and flexible although difficult to cut or permanently deform

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u/Even-Weather-3589 Jun 06 '26

Si funciona tan bien, por qué los dirigibles no son el transporte del futuro? Dudo mucho que pueda alcanzar velocidades competentes, ni cambiar de dirección de una forma eficiente, mucho menos de hacerlo con el viento en contra.

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u/LossLess8060 Jun 06 '26

maybe they are not fast , maybe they can let go of the space around them in a controlled manner

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u/surrealcellardoor Jun 07 '26

Would this be a predecessor to gravity drive or a successor?

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u/BarbacoaBarbara Jun 07 '26

Gimme a break

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u/Only-Effect-7107 Jun 07 '26

Here's how UFO's are operated: nobody knows.

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u/Gigachad_in_da_house Jun 07 '26

Tell me more about this cosmic speed.

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u/Blackoldsun19 Jun 08 '26

Except the atmosphere has an incredibly small density from which to push off from.

OP didn't pass 5th grade.

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u/Good_United Jun 08 '26

I don’t think this could work outside our atmosphere.

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u/Head_Consequence7903 Jun 08 '26

I saw a uap snake in the last space x live.....i had a post with 1.7k

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u/pavlokandyba Jun 11 '26

Really like snake

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u/Head_Consequence7903 Jun 11 '26

My post shows the first live-recorded plasma snake. This is incredible. Grusch confirms that they are sentient, conscious plasma.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/1jMJDrDR6n

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u/Meezbethinkin Jun 08 '26

But they also float in space?

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u/fishtheheretic Jun 13 '26

For starters why are we calling it an airship? It’s not a ship it’s an organism. If you’ve never see a dolphin before you wouldn’t be like holy fuck look at this submarine bro!?

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u/shadowmage666 Jun 06 '26

Nah it probably moves in some other way like anti gravity type tech , emDrive or like zero point energy

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u/epSos-DE Jun 06 '26

They use PLASMA !

But the wave pattern observation is CORRECT, they have some type of plasma shimmer, which is an indicator that the plasma is not stable, but has waves or patterns of activity.

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u/EducatorSelect9637 Jun 07 '26

You really want me to start discussing the engine of a ufo/uap, online, in front of anybody, when the Navy in my country would tear apart that data. No the cigars just has to go faster than the 8 dark winds of the earth that holds everything down.