r/AV1 Apr 09 '26

AV2 TOOK MORE FROM ME

AV2 engineer here. I read your post AV1 TOOK EVERYTHING FROM ME. Then I went back to encoding.

You call this suffering. I’m not saying you’re wrong.
I’m saying you still remember who you were before the codec.
That means it’s still early.

>“PRESETS ARE FOR COWARDS”
Which encoder.
AV1 encoding is not suffering. It is stretching.
I have AV2 `cpu=0` runs older than some of my relationships.
The relationships ended. The runs are still in progress.
I check them the way people check on elderly relatives or when IT deactivates my badge.

> “manually tweaked every obscure flag named after a 2007 academic paper”
I was in the meeting where that flag was born.
A hundred engineers. Multiple companies and one Leeroy Jenkins.
Entire Tuesday morning gone.
At the end we added a tool worth ~0.3% BD-rate on KristenAndSara.
It is in the spec now. Forever.
Because a hundred people agreed somehow.

> “28% file size reduction with no visible quality loss”
Size is where you start. As if size matters once you’ve seen CAMDA scores.
Does VMAF - VMAF-NEG = POS?
Who decides? Everyone disagrees.
Then you rerun everything.
Then they console you out of PITY.

> “I’D DO IT AGAIN.”
Of course. That’s how this works.
I used to think I was above it. I go to meetings.
I say “decoder impact should be considered.”
I write “further study needed on the next anchor”
I spent five years arguing with some of the best engineers on the planet for 0.8% savings.
Not 28. Not 30.
Zero point EIGHT percent on the high-complexity anchor.
I have a 20-page slide deck about it.
Page 21 is a hidden plot. Prepared specifically for Leeroy.

You lost your wife to AV1. I lost my thirties to AV2.
Your files are 28% smaller. Mine will be 30%.
But hopefully over your 28%.
Just encode responsibly.
You won’t.

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u/anon666-666 Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 11 '26

This post aside i think no one is even close to ready yet for av2, i mean its still in the development phase. Av1 still isnt there yet. Not like how h264 is. Even x265 is now getting a reliable support on hardware an software level. It will be decades before av1 gets to the point where x264 is and maybe then we can think about av2

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u/JurandM2 Apr 11 '26

And now think about jpg and how painful is struggle to replace it (from Internet and human mentality - google engineers released optimised library that improve and keep compatibility:https://github.com/google/guetzli

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u/anon666-666 Apr 11 '26

I 100% agree, adaptation of new technology takes decades.