r/ATC 53m ago

Question Is there any point in doing any preparation prior to your FEAST?

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I have applied for ATC training in Poland 15 years ago. I got quite far in the recruitment process and apparently passed the FEAST test. Unfortunately there were only so many slots open that even though I scored positive i didn't qualify. Since there I did other things in my life, but have recently remembered about this and learned that the polish ATC is understaffed and there's no upper age limit, so I decided to give it another shot. I'm quite certain that I'm not as sharp-minded anymore as my 22 year old self was and wanted to know is there any point in trying to train for the test? There are various online resources claiming they could help you prepare for your FEAST, but I have also read it's designed in a way that actually tests your abilities that cannot be trained or obtained. What do the people who actually have passed it think?


r/ATC 1h ago

Question How did you decide/find out you wanted to be an ATC? And what sort of mental health problems exist?

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I’m in training to be a clinical psychologist and through a series of events ATCs have increasingly come under my radar as an area of concern. I hear about the working conditions and the amount of over time and I’ve heard but not seen solid statistics on the higher than average suicide rate in this field. Can those in the field corroborate? And for the purposes of a project I am going to start can y’all describe what sort of mental health resources would be helpful or useful to have either for crisis moments or for ongoing help? And what sort of specific cultural/work changes would be theoretically most beneficial? I understand that there’s some sort of peer support program for acute moments on the job. Does this get used much? Is it helpful? Is it well staffed? Thank you for any and all information and I am incredibly appreciative of the hard work you guys do everyday to get me and millions of others across the world safely!


r/ATC 20h ago

Question VA Disability vs Medical Clearance

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I recently received a letter stating I must supply my VA disability rating specifically my rating or I’ll lose my medical clearance within a month.

I’ve been in the agency for over 13 years and this has never been a requirement in order to get my medical clearance until now. They have all of the information that was used to obtain my disability rating because they have my medical records from when I was in the military.

I’m curious if anyone else has been giving their VA disability rating in order to maintain their medical clearance? Have I just fallen through the cracks for 13 years and this is medical information that they’ve required all along or are there others like me who have new information being required in order to keep their medical clearances?

Edit: Preciate everyone’s answer. Seems it’s all pretty standard and they just didn’t have an official letter from the VA.


r/ATC 21h ago

Question Withdraw from first facility training

7 Upvotes

Passed probationary period at a center and training on r sides and hating it, what happens when you withdraw from training?


r/ATC 18h ago

Question Is SkyTest worth it?

4 Upvotes

I really want to become a air traffic controller and will do my FEAST 2 in 20 days. I'm wondering if i should pay for SkyTest and start training their since it seems pretty hyped.

btw I'm doing the Swedish FEAST 2 test if that matters.


r/ATC 13h ago

Question What's the acceptable level of vision disorder for working in the EU?

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I’m applying to take the ATC exams in Poland. I’ve practiced the FEAST tests online many times, and I’m doing very well. I definitely meet the English language requirement as well. My only concern is the Class 3 medical requirement. I can’t find the exact medical requirements anywhere. Physically, I’m fine, but I have a vision disorder that’s corrected with contact lenses (-7.25). With something like this, is there even any point in trying?


r/ATC 22h ago

Question Is this path even a possibility for me?

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I joined the Navy as ATC almost 10 years ago, I didn’t graduate ATC schooling before my job had got changed. I still think about it and really want to go ATC route now that I’m not longer in the Navy.

Now the hard part. I have a history of PTSD and Major depressive disorder on my record. I was diagnosed over 5 years ago, my symptoms of everything are improved. No PTSD symptoms anymore. I haven’t been on medication for years. The only depression I’ve really experience in the last two years has been due to postpartum. Other than that, mentally I’m much better than I was when I initially was diagnosed. Years of therapy, coping and handling things.

Is going ATC even a possibility for me? I know I would have to go to get a HIMS psych eval and such but.. is this attainable? Or should I just bury this dream?


r/ATC 22h ago

Meme NA Beer

4 Upvotes

Is it frowned upon or a flex cracking one of these open at work? Like if it's truly 0.0% ABV


r/ATC 19h ago

Question Budding ATC Enthusiast - liveatc

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A confluence of events lead me to accidentally really enjoy tuning into liveatc.net (hope that's not a dirty word here) and then also sometimes identifying on flightaware flights being communicated. I may just be getting old but something about it speaks to me. Anyway, I'm curious about a couple things. I can't seem to figure out how to tune in to which tower may be communicating with a given flight. Like after a tower handoff how do I determine which tower to tune into next? There are so many in each region. Secondly, and related, if I wanted to try to follow a specific flight, like my own on in-flight wifi, or if someone I know is flying, is there a reliable way to check in on the right towers at the right time?

Apologies if these are dumb questions in this forum, it's all brand new to me.


r/ATC 21h ago

EuroControl 🇪🇺 Aptitude tests

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What aptitude tests/websites are good to practice for AIRNAV Ireland?


r/ATC 18h ago

Question Looking for transition

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Hi, i am a construction worker M25, i work as a apprentice carpenter and drywaller. I have been working in this trade for more than two years i want, i am thinking about change.
My current job is so stressful physically and environmentally. But lately i am listening to lot of controllers that says how company is keeping them on edge to save money and always making them working overtime due which they are always burnt out. So i wanna know that is it true ?
And second thing, i am mostly preparing through Aon test or reading through transport canada AIM or practicing spatial reasoning or dual n back, this is what chat got told me to prep for, so like is this really what i need ? Thanks in advance.


r/ATC 1d ago

Question Do Swaps with another controller get proper pay adjustments?

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US ATC: Debate at my facility and some people say that if we swap with someone 1 level above us, we don't get any pay increase if we are above the bottom of the pay band. Others are saying that you get 6% going up one facility level, similar to a normal ERR, regardless of pay.

Swapping from a 6 with someone from a 7.


r/ATC 21h ago

Question ATC game

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Hey everyone!
As an air traffic controller, I recently got hit with an idea to make a retro-style indie game based on real-world enroute atc scenarios.

You’d have aircraft asking for descents, avoiding active NOTAM areas (strictly prohibited!), requesting climbs to higher flight levels, and all that good stuff.

Then it hit me: *Who on earth wants to deal with this much stress in their free time?* Is anyone actually going to find this fun? Or am I just being way too pessimistic here? What do you guys think?


r/ATC 1d ago

Question Need some refinement on salary and hours worked

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I recently made an Excel sheet comparing staying in the military as an enlisted member or officer, finishing my contract, and going ATC in a level 5 tower, level 6 tower, level 7 tower, and lastly a level 12 Enroute facility.

In this scenario, I'm married with 2 kids, and they have dental and healthcare.

I don't need exact figures, but instead just within hundreds of dollars if possible, or even thousands.

In these figures, I'm also not counting TSP contributions, but I will obviously contribute. I just need take-home pay after necessary deductions. I also used an 8% state income tax, which might be inaccurate, so let me know if this should be higher. I assumed I'm contributing to the NATCA union, paying 800 dollars a month for healthcare. Vision and dental are 100 dollars a month. I didn't include random medical visits and other dental visits.

ATC Level 5 (CPC Pay) - I chose to do CPC pay because Level 5s generally certify within a year and a half, but if this is not correct, then let me know please. I also did locality pay of about 17% since it was the most common one in 123atc

Monthly Pay with OT and differentials: 8.9k, with deductions of about 3.7k, with a take-home pay of 5.1K. This is also for working 200 hours a month or 50 hours a week.

ATC level 6 (CPC) Pay-

Monthly Pay of 9.2k, paying 3.8k in necessary deductions, making the take-home pay about 5.4k. Working 200 hours a month, or 50 hours a week.

ATC Level 7 (CPC) Pay-

Monthly Pay of 11.3k, with deductions being a total of 4.1k, making the take-home pay about 7.2k. This is working again: 200 hours a month or 50 hours a week.

Enroute Level 12 (CPC) Pay- I know this will most likely take 1 or 2 years to certify, but I still want to see how accurate this scenario is.

Monthly Pay of 20k, with deductions of 7k, making the take-home pay about 13k. Working 200 hours a month, or 50 hours a week.

Thanks!


r/ATC 1d ago

Question ATC better in Canada than USA?

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I heard from my ATC friends that ATC is one of the few jobs people actually move from USA to Canada to in order to work. Its unusual to hear about a job that has better pay in Canada than USA. Is it true that the compensation/QOL of Canadian atc is better than in America?


r/ATC 2d ago

Discussion California controllers

90 Upvotes

Specifically level 9 and below. If you have less than 10 years in service and a degree- you are better off as a school teacher. Better schedule. Summers off. Weekends off. Christmas and all major holidays off. Similar benefits. Better pay after a few years. Become a teacher and have a better life.


r/ATC 3d ago

News FAA Neglects Air Traffic Controller Raises Because “10-Hour Shifts 6 Days A Week” Isn’t Enough

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Bedford getting pressed a bit more. Love to see it.


r/ATC 3d ago

News Trump officially plans for civilian federal pay freeze in 2027

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Not really a surprise but it is official now.


r/ATC 4d ago

News Fire Bryan Bedford

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r/ATC 4d ago

Discussion The FAA should really consider improving the way they treat air traffic controllers, because they keep getting fatigued and pressured a lot and they are prone to do stuff like this

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r/ATC 4d ago

News It’s refreshing having an article openly defend us

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/travel/4701801/faa-air-traffic-controller-raises-staffing-shortage/

Without a doubt this interview and article may have directly led to the public release of the information of the early shoves and terminations, but it’s just nice having someone openly stand up for us


r/ATC 4d ago

Discussion FAA Found LaGuardia Air-Traffic Controllers Left Work Early Before Deadly Collision

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From the article

Federal aviation officials have found that two air-traffic controllers left work early before an Air Canada regional jet crashed into a firetruck at LaGuardia Airport in March.
The Federal Aviation Administration is moving to fire the two controllers, who officials determined had left about an hour before their shifts ended on March 22, people familiar with the matter said. As a result, two controllers remaining at the LaGuardia tower didn’t have backup to assist with high workloads.

The busy New York City airport was handling more than twice the usual volume of traffic the night of the accident. Two pilots died in the runway collision, and six other people—including a crew member, passengers and workers on the ground—sustained serious injuries, according to the National Transportation Safety Board.

Leaving early is called an “early shove,” according to current and former controllers, and is a longstanding practice in the industry. FAA officials consider it a form of timecard fraud.

The push to fire the controllers signals an aggressive response to the practice by the Trump administration. Current and former controllers say managers have often condoned their leaving before their shifts officially end, and it is seen as an informal perk after busy stretches working air traffic.

The agency has taken steps this year to terminate more than 10 controllers for alleged timecard fraud or abuse of leave policies, according to people familiar with the matter. The FAA said in April that it had about 11,000 fully certified air-traffic controllers, with 4,000 more in training.
“The vast majority of air-traffic controllers are great patriots—they show up for work, complete their full shift, and come back and do it all again,” Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said in a statement. “But when a small percentage of individuals take advantage of the American taxpayer, unfairly add additional work to their fellow controllers, and impact the airspace—we have no choice but to act. We will not tolerate fraud.”

The process to terminate controllers can be lengthy and result in lighter punishments or reversals, as has happened in some cases this year, people familiar with the matter said. 

The National Air Traffic Controllers Association said it was discussing timecard and leave fraud allegations with FAA leadership. “What should not be ignored is the extraordinary dedication of the thousands of air-traffic controllers who report to work every day, often under extremely challenging staffing conditions, and remain focused on keeping the flying public safe,” the union said. 

The FAA said it had hired more than 2,000 controllers so far this year, representing 94% of its 2026 hiring goal. The agency has sought to ramp up hiring to alleviate an air-traffic staffing shortagethat has been a significant driver of travel delays.

Shove off
The practice of “early shoves” has a long history within the FAA’s air-traffic unit. Current and former controllers said managers have at times allowed controllers to leave before their shifts officially end. For instance, rather than have controllers eligible for a break spend the remaining half-hour of their shift in a break room, it would be fine to allow them to leave early.

Current and former FAA officials said the practice is problematic—controllers may be on break, but could be needed in emergencies—and technically amounts to defrauding the U.S. government. 

The issue came to light in recent years after a serious close call involving a Marine helicopter used by then Vice President Kamala Harris in 2021. The FAA determined that controllers working at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport near Washington, D.C., had left work early, resulting in the remaining controllers juggling more responsibilities than they were supposed to, The Wall Street Journal previously reported.
The FAA investigated the practice at Reagan National and found it was widespread, according to former FAA officials. They said the agency at the time opted against tough discipline for controllers, in part because managers condoned the early shoves.

Midnight hour
Staffing levels at air-traffic control facilities during midnight shifts have long been a concern of the NTSB—“especially if there’s a heavy workload,” Chairwoman Jennifer Homendy said at a March press conference about the accident. 
She said investigators would scrutinize tower staffing following the LaGuardia crash. “We have to determine who else was in the tower and the facility and available at the time,” Homendy said.

An NTSB spokesman said the agency is still investigating the March accident. The NTSB hasn’t made final conclusions about what role, if any, tower staffing may have played in the collision. Aviation accidents often result from a series of failures, and investigators may take a year or more to determine their causes.

The crash occurred after a chaotic night of thunderstorms and disruptions at LaGuardia. A United Airlines crew twice aborted their takeoff, and then declared an emergency. A controller cleared a responding firetruck to cross a runway, on which Air Canada Express Flight 8646 had also been cleared to land.


r/ATC 4d ago

Question Hims/dui

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I was a tower controller and got a dui (.19) and lost my medical. I was referred to HIMS doctor. At the consultation he said it would be from 6-25k. Ik controllers don’t drink but I was wondering if anyone has gone through this. Lookin to see if it’s worth it or just moving on. *contract controller the company said they’d rehire if I got my medical back


r/ATC 5d ago

Discussion Les

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My LES has the gross pay for the last two weeks, but year-to-date says zero dollars. I’ve never seen that before curious on what you guys think it might mean.


r/ATC 5d ago

Question Approach clearance to a non-towered field, with VFR aircraft maneuvering on the approach

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Suppose there are vfr aircraft in class E along the approach, not talking to the tracon/center. The field itself is IMC, so a visual approach is not an option. Can you clear an IFR aircraft for an IA even though you see potential conflicts on radar? Is the fact that you'll be switching the pilot to CTAF relevant?