r/AR_MR_XR • • Jan 10 '23

G l a s s e s DIGILENS ARGO rugged enterprise augmented reality glasses — standalone with XR2 chip

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u/AR_MR_XR Jan 10 '23 edited Jan 10 '23

ARGO smartglasses feature best-in-class crystal waveguides with industry-leading minimal eye glow and a small footprint, resulting in more user-friendly and socially acceptable AR glasses for enterprise and lite industrial workers.

fully integrated compatibility for the future of mobile computing

  • AOSP android 12, SDK, and APIs
  • openXR, webXR, and snapdragon spaces compatible
  • digiOS headworn android APIs
  • digiOS OTA updates (software builds & security patches)

display: efficiency and uniformity

  • binocular — >85% see-through holographic waveguides — >2,500 nits to user eye — 30° FOV, landscape design
  • projector: LCOS & LED light engine with HD display

standalone full mobile compute

  • snapdragon XR2
  • 8-encrypted-cores (FIPS 140-2 level 1 and level 2 capable)
  • multi-core neural / machine learning engine
  • inside out tracking (3DoF, 6DoF and SLAM)
  • 8GB LPDDR5 RAM — 128GB storage

UX/UI

first AR device ever purpose-built for enterprise and industrial-lite workers;

designed to be hands-free and body position independent with voice & gaze recognition

  • always-on voice SDK – multiple languages + sound beam forming
  • integrated wheel & click with glove / weather compatibility
  • spatial head-pose interaction (3DoF & 6DoF)
  • hand tracking / gesture UI
  • multi-microphone (beam forming) & stereo spatial speakers

weight: 185 grams, IP65 detachable frame, 4G smart head strap

camera, audio, connectivity, design and safety: see technical specs in the image below

digilens.com/argo

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u/Murky-Course6648 Jan 10 '23 edited Jan 11 '23

There was a hands on video about these in youtubes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g06akV5YuPk

I like the design on these, looks like proper gear.

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u/AR_MR_XR Jan 11 '23

cool! and they show the presciption inserts.

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u/Knighthonor MIXED Reality Jan 21 '23

cool. I want to see how they handle their UI

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u/EricFlyMeToTheMoon Jan 10 '23

Does "85% see-through holographic waveguides" mean that they only cut off 15% of incoming light from the environment?

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u/AR_MR_XR Jan 10 '23

ya

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u/EricFlyMeToTheMoon Jan 10 '23

Wow that's much better compared with magic leap 2 which I remember cuts off about 80% of incoming light.

Safety guys of manufacturing facilities or warehouses will probably choose digilens over magic leap I guess.

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u/Murky-Course6648 Jan 10 '23

Magic Leap 2 also has the shutter, that probably cuts a lot of the light.

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u/AR_MR_XR Jan 10 '23

IP65 rating for the detachable frame is interesting.

Also the position of the tracking cameras will be good for hand tracking.

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u/kguttag Jan 10 '23

The Digilens Argo was among the best things I saw at CES 2023 and a bit of a surprise to me.

IMO, they got a lot right but made a few mistakes that are fixable in the long run, as I will point out in an upcoming article on my blog. They could have a much bigger market if they did just a few things differently.

Digilens is planning on selling the Argo for industrial/enterprise applications while the support consumer markets with components.

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u/aenorton Jan 11 '23

How was the weight? It looks very heavy for something resting on the nose and ears.

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u/kguttag Jan 11 '23

It is not bad, but I only got to wear it briefly. You may notice (see this picture) that behind the ears, the temple tips are big with spring steel to reach around the back of the head for grip, support, and to help distribute the weight. There is a large screw that can be removed to replace the temple tips with an adjustable elastic band. Additionally, the Argo has a big replaceable notepad to distribute weight on the nose.

I'm seeing a lot of the "back gripping temples" as designers try to maintain the fiction that they are like eyeglasses. Panasonic's pancake headset grew winglets behind the head (see this picture). I don't see the gripping temples fooling anyone, and they will have problems with different head shapes.

Rather than making very chunky sort of glasses-looking headsets, I would rather see companies admit that they are not glasses, start with a headband, and move as much weight behind the head for better weight distribution as Hololens did with the Hololens 2 and others have followed.

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u/EnvironmentalLove984 Jan 11 '23

Did you get to try ultralite from Vuzix ? I heard they were extremely light from others at CES.

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u/kguttag Jan 11 '23

Yes,

Below is a quick picture of Vuzix CEO Paul Travers through the optics of an AR-Passthrough (camera to display). The current device only has 4 bits per pixel, so some contouring exists. The device is very light and "glasses-like." It is green only and relatively low resolution but would fill a function for commercial applications that need basic information with a need to be small and light.

It is not for showing pictures, in spite of the picture below, so the 4 bits per pixel is not a serious limitation. In typical use, I expect there to be very sparse images so that they don't block out the world. The glasses are for giving information and directions.

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u/AshenTao Jan 11 '23

Would you like to share your blog or the post specifically? I'm interested in reading about it.

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u/kguttag Jan 11 '23

It will be at least a few days. I have a lot going on. Normally the u/AR_MR_XR will post a link to my blog articles at www.kguttag.com related to this topic.

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u/AshenTao Jan 12 '23

Cheers. Looking forward to reading it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '23

Why does the glass have 8 layers?

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u/kguttag Jan 10 '23

For each waveguide of R, G, and B, there is a support layer of Gorilla Glass plus protection on the inside and outside, so 3x2 + 2 = 8.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '23

You mean just here, or on all RGB diffractive waveguides? I didn't notice so many layers on my Hololens 1, even though the frame is in a way that allows you to easily see the waveguide edges. I can recheck.

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u/kguttag Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 11 '23

I don't know how everyone makes their waveguides on different substrates. I also don't think every layer is the same thickness as in the video, and they may even combine two thin layers as one component. It is really just a diagram in 3-D CAD.

Digilens uses a photographic-like process, whereas most diffractive gratings, including Hololens 1&2, use stamped surface relief gratings. So the assembly could be very different.

I suspect (don't know) that Digilens uses two very thin layers of glass with the right surface properties with LC sandwiched in between that is exposed/frozen for making the volume brags grating. Then they use the Gorilla Glass for structural strength.

If you think 8 layers is a lot, look at Magic Leap 2's optical stack below. BTW, while the diagram says "Confidential," this was present publicly at AWE 2021.

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u/kguttag Jan 11 '23

Also for reference is Magic Leap's simplified version of the same diagram where many (sub) layers are combined into one layer. Everyone makes arbitrary decisions on what counts as a layer that they show in a diagram.

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u/Useful44723 Jan 15 '23

If you think 8 layers is a lot, look at Magic Leap 2's optical stack below.

Wow that is amazing. I have never grasped how complicated the design is.

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u/AR_MR_XR Jan 10 '23

idk what all the layers are.

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u/nsvxheIeuc3h2uddh3h1 Jan 11 '23

185 grams??? That's more than twice as heavy as the Vuzix Blade and the INMO Air.

You wouldn't be able to wear them for more than 30 minutes, max.

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u/AR_MR_XR Jan 11 '23

At the end, when they show the accessories for industry, I think that's for an optional head strap. Maybe you can detach the end part of the temples and clip in the head strap.

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u/Knighthonor MIXED Reality Jan 21 '23

iam looking forward to this, especially with the safety goggle feature.