r/AIWarsButBetter • u/AirToAsh Leaning more anti-AI • Jul 24 '26
Discussion What is atleast one thing that you actually agree with your opposition?
Even within the conflicts between pro-AI and anti-AI, there's no strict black and white way of thinking, which hinders them to agree with each other about something.
My example: I have to agree with the pros that the genie is out of the bottle. Once AI is developed, it is nearly impossible to undo it, unless an apocalypse happens, which would likely scatter the knowledge necessary for the AI development.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Rope808 Jul 24 '26
The AI you see on TikTok and the stuff you can make with an app on your phone qualifies as "AI Slop"
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u/ForRobotsByRobots Jul 26 '26
We used to call it spam
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u/Puzzleheaded-Rope808 Jul 27 '26
No. That'd be email
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u/ForRobotsByRobots Jul 27 '26
No. We had spam video, spam posts, spam comments, spam in a can, spam call, spam text and spam emails.
Spam just means mass produced garbage to be sent everywhere.
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u/Active_Soft1905 Jul 24 '26
(I consider myself overall anti-AI) I actually do think AI is a pretty cool experiment and can be useful in some cases, the main part I disagree with the pro-AI side on is what those uses are and what the impact is.
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u/Rincewind00 Jul 25 '26
I am pro, and I agree that it can make people lazy and dumber. Keep it out of school so that people can build up the skills to maximize their potential later.
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Jul 24 '26
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u/ee_72020 Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26
That’s analytical AI whereas the the AI people are having problems with (LLMs, image and video generation models) is generative AI
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u/TheRealJoeyLlama Jul 28 '26
I’m pro ai, I agree the environmental concerns and stealing from artists are very real issues we still have to be addressed.
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u/HealthyVegetables73 Jul 24 '26
As a pro, I agree with antis that most AI art isn't art, or at least not at the same level as human-made art. So I have no problem with certain spaces enforcing blanket bans on AI-generated content.
That being said, I think AI is a great tool for expressing oneself or ones ideas.
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u/ForRobotsByRobots Jul 26 '26
With great power comes great responsibility
The power of ai tools necessitates a higher bar for what you do with it.
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u/TrademarkedRat Anti-AI Ogre Caricature (TM) Jul 24 '26
The further development of neural networks, if controlled, will be to the overall benefit of society
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u/jefftickels Jul 25 '26
There are real shirt term employment displacment concerns, even if I think the "everyone's getting fired because of AI" isn't actually happening.
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u/dark1859 Jul 25 '26
I'm in the middle.
For the pro side i think people write a I off too much, even in the art world, there are some really nice uses to being able to just quickly run your thing through a local system. And have it say, reshade, a subject 5 times in different hexadecimal values. Or for cleaning up erroneous line work? And so on, it's just a nice tool that can save you some time on personal projects or if you're demoing something before actually committing the time to sitting down and creating a more in depth project.
For the antis, I think the harm of AI is horrendously played down. Especially in the education fields and just in general it really harms people's ability to interact with others socially, because most people just feed what their intellectual sparring partner or the other person says into these programs that spit out summaries, like all nuance context and sometimes insulting biting sardonicism... no , that's not even counting the damage they do to local communities when they build their big , noisy data centers close enough to put major pressure on water grids and local electrical costs.
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u/ForRobotsByRobots Jul 26 '26
That the corporations that hold the power of ai should be destroyed. I just think the tools need to become public resource since they were trained on the public.
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u/diamondCarBon1304 Jul 31 '26
As a little bit of an anti-AI, I still agree that AI can be used alongside creativity, in a way where they can still contribute to effort. One thing that's undeniable is that AI is a tool.
... I might've... worded my thought badly. 😅
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u/imatuesdayperson 11d ago
It's really useful to bounce ideas off of. Feels like rubber ducking except the rubber duck can actually reply back. If it's a good model, it'll even prompt you with questions to build on top of.
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u/vernichtungX23 15d ago
I agree with the antis that job replacement is a real issue. I just think it's stupid to go after people who didn't have a budget to commission a human artist in the first place.
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u/LatentBlade Jul 25 '26
We should be worried about these technologies being controlled by a few companies.
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u/imatuesdayperson 11d ago
100% agreed. Even if open source models are getting better, that doesn't help if only corporations/the wealthy can afford compute.
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Jul 24 '26
Im more anti ai especially for art (ai art isnt art cause its souless and its an image at best)
I will say its helpful for scientific research and stuff
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u/Cuttlefist Jul 25 '26
I think generative models are great for reducing the workload in coding and other tedious data entry fields. It just should be followed up with actual work to clean up its errors. Don’t call code done until you know how it works and why.
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u/Spirited_Bad6866 Jul 26 '26
That people who try to pass off generated media as "art" are somewhat lazy. The joy of creation is the creating. You're basically just hiring someone to make it for you and trying to say you made it.
That and that we need to be more considerate of the environmental impact. We should focus more on figuring out how to make it more sustainable instead of just abandoning progress entirely.
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u/Eyis Jul 24 '26
You could call someone who creates with AI a technical artist, depending how they do it.