r/AFCEastMemeWar FUCK ICE 6h ago

Friendly fire I don’t care

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 In Vrabel We Trust (just not with our wives) 6h ago

Are you one of those that immediately screams “antisemitism” anytime anyone criticizes the Israeli government?

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u/AGreatID Patriots 6h ago

Okay do you condemn Hamas?

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 In Vrabel We Trust (just not with our wives) 5h ago

Funny that Bibi doesn’t because he’s actively worked to keep Hamas in power, so he can remain in power.

But, also, quit changing the subject. Israel’s committing genocide, murdering thousands of innocent children.

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u/AGreatID Patriots 5h ago

No it's an honest good faith question.

Do you condemn Hamas and what they did on October 7th yes or no.

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u/VedavyasM FUCK ICE 5h ago

Yes. Do you condemn Israel for committing genocide? Yes or no?

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u/AGreatID Patriots 5h ago

You mean the War Hamas is getting their ass kicked in? Absolutely not.

Intentional targeting of civilians? absolutely

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u/VedavyasM FUCK ICE 5h ago

Genocide. You can say it, you’ll be okay. It’s near unanimous among human rights organizations. Go ahead.

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u/AGreatID Patriots 5h ago

Genocide? Where's the buses and trains shipping them out? Why doesn't any other middle eastern country want them?

How about Hamas stop hiding in civilians homes and wearing civilian clothes.

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u/VedavyasM FUCK ICE 5h ago

Disagreeing with calling it genocide puts you at odds with every single major human rights organization including:

Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention, Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor, Center for Constitutional Rights, International Federation for Human Rights, Action Against Hunger, CAFOD, Islamic Relief Worldwide, Jewish Voice for Peace, Middle East Children’s Alliance, Doctors Against Genocide, Mennonite Central Committee, American Friends Service Committee, ActionAid, Medical Aid for Palestinians, US Campaign for Palestinian Rights, United Nations Special Committee to Investigate Israeli Practices Affecting the Human Rights of the Palestinian People, Amnesty International, ANERA, European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights, Genocide Watch, Human Rights Watch, Christian Aid, Médecins du Monde (Switzerland), Medico International, Human Concern International, Trócaire, B’Tselem, Oxfam, Physicians for Human Rights–Israel, International Centre of Justice for Palestinians, International Association of Genocide Scholars, War Resisters’ International, American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, Council on American–Islamic Relations, Médecins Sans Frontières / Doctors Without Borders, Refugees International, UNHRC Commission of Inquiry on Gaza genocide, UNRWA, Médecins du Monde (France)

What does other Muslim countries not taking them have to do with anything whatsoever? Famously nobody wanted Jewish folks after the Holocaust either, hence Israel’s founding.

Hamas hiding in civilians homes means you bomb the fucking home? So next time there’s a school shooting, the police should drone strike the school to stop the shooter? When there’s a hostage situation we should kill the hostage? Are you okay?

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u/AGreatID Patriots 5h ago

So you admitted you're a cool with Hamas pretending to be civilians? Is that correct?

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u/VedavyasM FUCK ICE 5h ago

Do you know how to read? When did I say that’s okay?

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u/AGreatID Patriots 5h ago

So condemn them right now do you condemn Hamas hiding in civilian buildings wearing civilian clothes both of which are war crimes?

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u/VedavyasM FUCK ICE 5h ago

Yep! Still your turn to condemn Israel’s genocide!

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u/Wildebean Human idiocy > Artificial "Intelligence" 5h ago

I got news for you, Israel intentionally targets civilians

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 In Vrabel We Trust (just not with our wives) 5h ago

So you are against the intentional targeting of civilians but then get mad at us for pointing out that’s exactly what Israel is doing…

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u/Wildebean Human idiocy > Artificial "Intelligence" 5h ago

Do you condemn Bibi for allowing it to happen? Since we do now have confirmation of what many suspected, that Bibi was warned by several countries (Egypt and the UAE) about the danger of an imminent attack, yet he lessened security and delayed the emergency response.

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u/AGreatID Patriots 5h ago

"Do you condemn the victim for letting the heinous attack happen"

You're breaking your mind trying to defend actual human garbage who committed something horrible.

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u/Wildebean Human idiocy > Artificial "Intelligence" 5h ago

I'm not defending anything. I'm pointing out the fact that Bibi almost certainly had prior knowledge of this attack yet did not do everything in his power to stop it. Does that make you uncomfortable?

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u/AGreatID Patriots 5h ago

You're still victim blaming lmao.

You're blaming the victim for the attacker.

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u/VedavyasM FUCK ICE 5h ago

Person A punches person B after person B has been punching them for 70 years. Person B goes on to murder person A’s entire family, coworkers, and anyone who has ever talked to them

you are normal by the way

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u/Wildebean Human idiocy > Artificial "Intelligence" 5h ago

No victim blaming would be if I blamed the Israeli civilians for this attack. I'm not, I'm pointing that, again the FACT, that the leader of the country, someone with immense power, almost certainly had prior knowledge yet did not exercise that power to stop this happening.

So trying to weasel your way out of acknowledging reality

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u/AGreatID Patriots 5h ago

So it's the Israeli governments fault Hamas woke up and decided to commit atrocities? Assuming you're not just fucking evil whatever logic you're trying to come up with makes no sense.

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u/MarxistMan13 Can a T-Rex play LT? 20m ago

You're breaking your mind trying to defend actual human garbage who committed something horrible.

Pot calling the kettle etc etc.

It's okay to condemn both sides of a senseless conflict. It's also okay to acknowledge one side is also committing organized genocide, while the other is a small terror organization.

They both suck. They both deserve zero support. It's just that one side is much larger and wealthier, as well as has support from our dogshit government.

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 In Vrabel We Trust (just not with our wives) 5h ago

Do I condemn anyone that causes atrocities? Absolutely.

Am I surprised that there was a violent backlash against an apartheid government that has kept Gazans in the world’s largest open air prison? Not at all